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Cell Phones and Novice Drivers
This Bill passed second reading today. This is bad law, tough to enforce, etc etc. Jay?
Text of First Reading
True, tough to enforce, but needed I think. New drivers have enough distractions and don't need cell phones taking their attention off the road, and driving into you or causing an accident. In my opinion, the only way you should be allowed to talk on the phone in your car, if you are the driver, is through hands free. This would reduce the risk of a driver being distracted due to cell phone use. It should be law for every driver and not just novice ones.
P.S. That is just my opinion, and it's been my opinion since people started driving while using cell phones. I used to have a job where I was required to carry a cell phone and blackberry (on call) while driving and answer it. I refused and would pull over every time I needed to answer the phone or respond to an email from the blackberry.
It is not safe to drive while on a cell phone. This is one of the reasons why my insurance is astronomical, ie: due to people not paying attention to the roads and causing accindents.
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| Originally posted by Jungle Fever ...the only way you should be allowed to talk on the phone in your car, if you are the driver, is through hands free... |
I'm all for this law, but I'm against any law that is impractical to enforce.
How are the cops suppose to enforce this law?
Practicality....
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| Originally posted by EvilTree I'm all for this law, but I'm against any law that is impractical to enforce. How are the cops suppose to enforce this law? Practicality.... |
i'm all for the law actually. i've seen ppl run lights or veer into other lanes and be completely oblivious to it since they're too busy yapping away on their phone. but i agree that it should apply to all drivers.
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| Originally posted by Tordan i'm all for the law actually. i've seen ppl run lights or veer into other lanes and be completely oblivious to it since they're too busy yapping away on their phone. but i agree that it should apply to all drivers. |
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| Originally posted by infinity HiGH i agree 110% nothing gets my blood boiling more than morons on cellphones on the road. its times like those taht i wish my car had a rocket launcher |
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| Originally posted by TO guy It'll likely only be applied after the fact. So if someone was in an accident, and on a cell phone, the fine/fault may increase. |
I think will definatly have potential, but agree on the enforcement issue. Are they going to stop every driver on a cell phone and if they have a G2 or G lisence they won't get a ticket? I think that'll waste a lot of time. In addition, if a driver is not paying attn b/c they're on their cell phone, and nearly causes an accident...will they be excempt from any sort of punishment if they are not a novice driver?
same shit as seatbelt laws.
if a cop sees it, they can charge you.
keep in mind that some laws are made as much (or more) to raise public awareness and change behaviour as opposed to there then being cops out there who are suddenly going to start enforcing them.
this is one of those laws, I think 
so why dont they ban radios? they are distracting too!
Yet another ban in our ban it all country... sorry but i see a lot of worse things on the road than cell phones. Maybe they should go after people who cut others off, drive too slow in the left lane etc etc... but of course that wouldnt be as easy as a law like this.
PS: dont think this will stop at new drivers. This is just a foot in the door legislation to a complete ban just like how smoking laws progressed
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| Originally posted by Jungle Fever In my opinion, the only way you should be allowed to talk on the phone in your car, if you are the driver, is through hands free. This would reduce the risk of a driver being distracted due to cell phone use. It should be law for every driver and not just novice ones. |
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Study: Hands-free phone not safer on road June 30, 2006 BY MARIO PARKER BLOOMBERG NEWS Drivers talking on cell phones are just as inattentive or likely to get into accidents as drunk drivers, even if they're using hands-free devices, according to a study published Thursday in the journal Human Factors. People conversing on cell phones while behind the wheel performed just as poorly in a driving simulator as those with a blood-alcohol level of 0.08%, the level at which someone can be convicted of drunken driving in Michigan and most states, according to psychologists at the University of Utah. Both handheld and hands-free cell phones impaired driving, the study found. That calls into question regulations that prohibit handheld cell phones and permit hands-free devices, according to the researchers. At any given moment during the day, 10% of drivers on U.S. roads are gabbing away on their wireless devices, according to a 2005 estimate by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. State lawmakers are "not addressing the issue by allowing the use of hands-free cell phones and not handheld," said Frank Drews, coauthor of the study and assistant professor of psychology at the University of Utah, where the study was conducted earlier this year. "We shouldn't take the mind-set that if you use a headset you would be safer." Simulated road test The study examined the behavior of 25 men and 15 women, each of whom drove four times in a simulator. Each drove undistracted once, then drove with a hands-free device, once with a phone and then drove with a 0.08% blood-alcohol level, measured by a Breathalyzer. The participants drove on a simulated 24-mile multilane highway with two or three lanes of traffic in each direction, in dry, daytime conditions, following a pace car, according to the study. Each driver used a cell phone to talk to a research assistant about a subject of interest. The study's results: � Participants drove more aggressively when intoxicated, and more slowly while talking on a cell phone. � Cell phone users were 9% slower to brake, had 24% more variation in following distance and were 19% slower to return to their initial speed after braking. � Three cell phone users had accidents. � Intoxicated drivers followed the pace car more closely, were twice as likely to brake 4 seconds before an accident would have occurred and hit the brakes with 23% more force, according to the study. There were no accidents. "What we found was that the relative risks are very comparable," said David Strayer, lead author of the study and professor of psychology at the University of Utah. "We found that people on cell phones were equally impaired." 'Inattention blindness' Strayer said that cell phones "create a form of inattention blindness." While many consider holding a cell phone to be a distraction, it is the actual conversation that distracts the driver, according to the researchers. "These people reduce efficiency on the highway system," Drews said. Those who talk on cell phones while driving are 5.36 times more likely to get into an accident than undistracted drivers, the study found. If driving drunk is illegal because of the accident risk, and the risk is comparable to driving while talking on a cell phone, then governments should consider outlawing their use, the researchers said. New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and the District of Columbia all have laws requiring drivers to use only hands-free cell phones, according to the Cellular Telecommunications Industry Association. |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 so why dont they ban radios? they are distracting too! Yet another ban in our ban it all country... sorry but i see a lot of worse things on the road than cell phones. Maybe they should go after people who cut others off, drive too slow in the left lane etc etc... but of course that wouldnt be as easy as a law like this. PS: dont think this will stop at new drivers. This is just a foot in the door legislation to a complete ban just like how smoking laws progressed |
I'm all for it. I personally had a VERY close call because i got distracted while on my cellphone. Ever since then, when people call me, I just tell them I'm driving and hang up. Unfortunately not everyone values their life more than a cellphone conversation, so maybe this will be a deterrent.
And yeah,enforcement won't be too hard - if they can catch you not wearing your seatbelt, they can as easily catch you driving and yapping at the same time.
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| Originally posted by TO guy It'll likely only be applied after the fact. So if someone was in an accident, and on a cell phone, the fine/fault may increase. |
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| Originally posted by MarkT keep in mind that some laws are made as much (or more) to raise public awareness and change behaviour as opposed to there then being cops out there who are suddenly going to start enforcing them. this is one of those laws, I think |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 PS: dont think this will stop at new drivers. This is just a foot in the door legislation to a complete ban just like how smoking laws progressed |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Actually that's a fallacy, there was a study done earlier this year and it makes no difference if a cell phone is hands free or not; the driver is still distracted. >>Source<< I'm all for it. People seem to have a hard enough time WITHOUT it... |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 so why dont they ban radios? they are distracting too! Yet another ban in our ban it all country... sorry but i see a lot of worse things on the road than cell phones. Maybe they should go after people who cut others off, drive too slow in the left lane etc etc... but of course that wouldnt be as easy as a law like this. PS: dont think this will stop at new drivers. This is just a foot in the door legislation to a complete ban just like how smoking laws progressed |
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| Originally posted by Jungle Fever The amount of concetration required to listen to a radio, as opposed to carying on a conversation, is quite less. |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Unless you're having a conversation with your radio, there's no comparison... |
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| Originally posted by Jungle Fever The amount of concetration required to listen to a radio, as opposed to carying on a conversation, is quite less. |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 so lets ban passengers! |
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| Originally posted by Jungle Fever The amount of concetration required to listen to a radio, as opposed to carying on a conversation, is quite less. |
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| Originally posted by djozzy Also using the handsfree must bu banned too. What is the difference talking to someone while you are holding the phone or not. You will be distracted either way. |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 thats another vote for banning passengers! |
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