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The classic "Ahhh" sound. How?

Hey guys!

As some of you might know, im working on a soundset with the V-station for the forum. "Classic sounds od trance", but im stuck.

Im trying to recreate the classic "Ahhh" sound that was used in alot of old trance tunes. Anyone knows what i mean?

It needs to be made on the v-station. I have tried to find it in some of my records, but sadly i dont have any of the oldies left, dont know where they are, so im using my memory, but i cant get it "on the table"!

Thanks
C

I'm curious to know this as well. I'm used to modifying samples or soundfonts to get this effect.

Like every old yamaha/roland/casio rompler has the ahh sound :P

Add nice reverb/delay and your good to go. Also there is a sample of it in VEC.

I thought he meant how to synthesize it.

LFO sine-waves seem to be one trick -- pehaps adding a tad of FM.

I got a tiny bit of an AHH-choral effect by taking the 3xOSC, making them all sine waves, and LFO the pitch with a delay. I did a couple other things to it, I just need to remember...

Why synthesize it when just about every program out there comes with the requisite sample? It's not like you even need the sample change the spectrum depending on range. Old school trance actually suffered a lot from inhuman sounding stretched choral samples.

But seriously, why synth when you can sample?

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Originally posted by Four_On_Four-er I thought he meant how to synthesize it. LFO sine-waves seem to be one trick -- pehaps adding a tad of FM. I got a tiny bit of an AHH-choral effect by taking the 3xOSC, making them all sine waves, and LFO the pitch with a delay. I did a couple other things to it, I just need to remember...

Thanks, now we are getting som where

Cheers
C

[QUOTE
]Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
Why synthesize it when just about every program out there comes with the requisite sample? It's not like you even need the sample change the spectrum depending on range. Old school trance actually suffered a lot from inhuman sounding stretched choral samples.

But seriously, why synth when you can sample? [/QUOTE]


I dont think you are getting the point here. Read the post again!

Cheers

I think I know the sound you're talking about, you might try setting the mod envelope to control the pitch of one of the oscs turn up the noise osc and have an lfo in there too (maybe controlling the amp of the noise osc)... maybe.

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Originally posted by kitphillips I think I know the sound you're talking about, you might try setting the mod envelope to control the pitch of one of the oscs turn up the noise osc and have an lfo in there too (maybe controlling the amp of the noise osc)... maybe.

Ok! thanks, gonna try that one to!

Cheers
C

I synthesized vox type sounds on my Virus B. Ill see if I can post a clip when I get home from work. You can't do it on any subtractive VA. You need 3 highly resonant formant filters ideally but you can work it with 2.

Then I just did it with wavetables. When I get home i'll try to post more of the details.

To be honest though, back in those classics, most of those vocal effects came from workstations like the Korg Trinity - i.e. they were sampled. Synthesizing choral sounds is quite difficult and it doesn't really sound all that realistic. Bit like synthesizing acoustic stringed instruments.

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Originally posted by Derivative I synthesized vox type sounds on my Virus B. Ill see if I can post a clip when I get home from work. You can't do it on any subtractive VA. You need 3 highly resonant formant filters ideally but you can work it with 2. Then I just did it with wavetables. When I get home i'll try to post more of the details. To be honest though, back in those classics, most of those vocal effects came from workstations like the Korg Trinity - i.e. they were sampled. Synthesizing choral sounds is quite difficult and it doesn't really sound all that realistic. Bit like synthesizing acoustic stringed instruments.

U are right, but i thought i would try to come as close as possible. So if you have something to get me statrted, i would be most greatful.

However, could this be made i have the Korg Legacy collection?

Cheers
C

Probably not. I did it using the wavetable formants on the Virus. I don't know of any equivilant you could use in KLC, but the wavetable sounds like an electric piano.

I've been meaning to post the details but after moving house all my studio gear is still boxed up.

You definitely need the 2 filters though and more than likely a 3rd if you want it to sound really good. Otherwise you don't get the vowel sound.

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Originally posted by Derivative Probably not. I did it using the wavetable formants on the Virus. I don't know of any equivilant you could use in KLC, but the wavetable sounds like an electric piano. I've been meaning to post the details but after moving house all my studio gear is still boxed up. You definitely need the 2 filters though and more than likely a 3rd if you want it to sound really good. Otherwise you don't get the vowel sound.

I managed to come really close with the vanguard. I can post a sample later when i get home.

I did it with two comb.square Osc�s and one Noise. But the i tried to recreate it on the v-station, but i dont htink it can be done!

some people really should read the thread b4 replying!

was thinking about ur soundset and thought it would be good to make some of the sounds that play in the background of tracks, the ones that fill the gaps....

most soundsets are made up of main lead sounds,pads basses and fx's

just an idea, if a top synth programmer made a full bank of them kind of sounds id say it would sell very well....

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Originally posted by jey some people really should read the thread b4 replying! was thinking about ur soundset and thought it would be good to make some of the sounds that play in the background of tracks, the ones that fill the gaps.... most soundsets are made up of main lead sounds,pads basses and fx's just an idea, if a top synth programmer made a full bank of them kind of sounds id say it would sell very well....

Yea, thats sounds like a greate idea!

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I dont think you are getting the point here. Read the post again! Cheers

I get the point. I'm saying that the point is insufficient. Soundset or no soundset, this is making complicated a very simple process, and that is just... dumb. I'm sorry if my opinion offends you, but I can't think anything else of this than that it's an exercise in futility.

I guess the pragmatic mindset makes no sense to the daydreamer.

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex I get the point. I'm saying that the point is insufficient. Soundset or no soundset, this is making complicated a very simple process, and that is just... dumb. I'm sorry if my opinion offends you, but I can't think anything else of this than that it's an exercise in futility. I guess the pragmatic mindset makes no sense to the daydreamer.

No no, i wasnt offended! I know what you mean, and know that its almost impossible to get that real "Ahh" sound with synthes. But i wanted something that could sound close to it!

But i have realized now that it cant be done!

Cheers
C

I think sample sets would really be the way to go if you want that semi-authentic, plastic "ahh" sound.

I don't have the $$ to spend at the moment on Spetrasonics Atmospheres, or other sample-based libraries, so I'm stuck with a few gimicky soundfonts and samples.

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Originally posted by substorm No no, i wasnt offended! I know what you mean, and know that its almost impossible to get that real "Ahh" sound with synthes. But i wanted something that could sound close to it! But i have realized now that it cant be done! Cheers C

It can be done on a subtractive VA but you need a few things. 3 filters for one. I still maintain you can do it roughly with just 2 filters though. Tonight I'll hook up my Virus, get the patch details and try to record a sample but I have no monitors or speakers again (oh Digital Village, when will you stop delivering me broken products? )

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Originally posted by Derivative It can be done on a subtractive VA but you need a few things. 3 filters for one. I still maintain you can do it roughly with just 2 filters though. Tonight I'll hook up my Virus, get the patch details and try to record a sample but I have no monitors or speakers again (oh Digital Village, when will you stop delivering me broken products? )

Hehe, thanks mate!

I say theres no way to even come close to the original.. You should share your vanguard sound substorm im curious.

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