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Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-16-2006 15:38:

Evil1 WTF?!?! Nazis on the rise...

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British Schools Urged to Spy on Muslim Students

The Guardian newspaper reports that college professors and staff in Britain may soon be asked to spy on "Asian-looking" and Muslim students they suspect of involvement in Islamic extremism. The paper obtained an 18-page document that reveals Britain�s Department of Education has drawn up a series of proposals on how the spy program should work. Teachers are likely to be asked to report suspicious students to a special branch of the government. Wakkas Khan, the president of the Federation of Student Islamic Societies, said the program is potentially the widest infringement of the rights of Muslim students ever in the country.


Source: Democracy Now

Why don't you put 'em concentration camps already? So the witch hunt has been made official now.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-16-2006 15:41:

I haven't been this pissed off in a while!


Posted by metalgearsolid on Oct-16-2006 15:42:

u r aware that there are more nazis in the US than there were in Nazis Germany?


Posted by Dj Alex (ISR) on Oct-16-2006 15:50:

Re: WTF?!?! Nazis on the rise...

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z


Why don't you put 'em concentration camps already?

good idea.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Oct-16-2006 16:37:

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Originally posted by Dj Alex (ISR)
good idea.



shouldnt you be against that idea since your people have suffered from such camps in the past?yet you are ok if muslims were thrown into concentration camps? what a fuckin hypocrite you are.


Posted by Dj Alex (ISR) on Oct-16-2006 16:38:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
shouldnt you be against that idea since your people have suffered from such camps in the past?yet you are ok if muslims were thrown into concentration camps? what a fuckin hypocrite you are.


i dont like the "poor muslims" attitude.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Oct-16-2006 16:43:

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Originally posted by Dj Alex (ISR)

i dont like the "poor muslims" attitude.


I dont like the "poor Israeli" attitude.


Posted by Dj Alex (ISR) on Oct-16-2006 16:46:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
I dont like the "poor Israeli" attitude.

i dont remember israel being poor.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Oct-16-2006 16:55:

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Originally posted by Dj Alex (ISR)
i dont remember israel being poor.


If only the U.S wasnt aiding their asses with million of American tax payers money every year that wouldnt have been the case at all and you know it.


Posted by Dj Alex (ISR) on Oct-16-2006 16:56:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
If only the U.S wasnt aiding their asses with million of American tax payers money every year that wouldnt have been the case at all and you know it.

yeah.. and if not the jewish americans there wouldnt be america at all.


Posted by venomX on Oct-16-2006 17:06:

Who let these two back in again Get your ramblings out of the PDD again.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Oct-16-2006 17:07:

Wow, this is a worthless thread. What is discussed in that short article does not even come close to Nazism. Go look at the NK thread to see some actual good comparisons to Nazism.

I'm not condoning what they're doing, but this sort of comparison is why no one cares when people compare someone to Hitler. It's gotten to the point that everyone does it even when their example isn't 1/4 as bad and automatically people assume it's just another hyperbole, since it usually is.


Posted by DJ Sarah H on Oct-16-2006 17:07:

DJ Alex = Banned


Posted by Glenn-Holmes on Oct-16-2006 17:23:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
u r aware that there are more nazis in the US than there were in Nazis Germany?


and how exactly did you come to this conclusion mr. ?
what a poor thing to say

also what dj alex said is too extreme to accept. i feel ashamed that people from israel can actually think that way.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-16-2006 17:48:

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Wow, this is a worthless thread. What is discussed in that short article does not even come close to Nazism. Go look at the NK thread to see some actual good comparisons to Nazism.

I'm not condoning what they're doing, but this sort of comparison is why no one cares when people compare someone to Hitler. It's gotten to the point that everyone does it even when their example isn't 1/4 as bad and automatically people assume it's just another hyperbole, since it usually is.


Well it's not such a crazy suggesion you know, espeically considering it wasn't entirely serious (although I was half serious). Look at all the developments that have taken place since 9-11. The Patriot Act, the Detainee Bill, the Military Commision Act of 2006, a war of agression (Iraq), another one possibly coming very soon against Iran, illegal spying, indefinite detention and torture without any evidence (including US citizens), the general loss of liberty and privacy, and other things I can't recall at the moment. This administration is abosolutely nuts; it's considers itself to be above the law, the constituion & Bill of Rights, international law, the Geneva convention, and has already fought one war of agression with another one probably coming very soon.

But I don't think any of that makes a difference to alot of you, and indicates nothing whatsoever. Well, we'll find out pretty soon in most probability and it'll be way to late by that time. And I guess I won't be around to say "I told you so!"


Posted by homerj14 on Oct-16-2006 18:02:

how can you even consider this nazi? all they are asking is to keep a watchful eye and people who could be extremists this happens all the time in Israel and LAX airport


Posted by Shakka on Oct-16-2006 18:09:

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Originally posted by homerj14
how can you even consider this nazi? all they are asking is to keep a watchful eye and people who could be extremists this happens all the time in Israel and LAX airport


Look at who started the post. When certain people are given the opportunity to jump on a Nazi comparison bandwagon, they don't miss the chance to do so. It is a ludicrous comparision matched only by the ludicrousness of this worthless thread. Frankly, Alex DJ's comments made me laugh. Israelis made the land rich, fertile and productive long before they were receiving billions in aid from the U.S. and others to defend themselves.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-16-2006 18:09:

quote:
Originally posted by homerj14
how can you even consider this nazi? all they are asking is to keep a watchful eye and people who could be extremists this happens all the time in Israel and LAX airport


It's potentially stepping stone to something much worse.


Posted by homerj14 on Oct-16-2006 18:13:

so im assuming shaloin_z your against racial profiling at airports?


Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-16-2006 18:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Look at who started the post. When certain people are given the opportunity to jump on a Nazi comparison bandwagon, they don't miss the chance to do so. It is a ludicrous comparision matched only by the ludicrousness of this worthless thread. Frankly, Alex DJ's comments made me laugh. Israelis made the land rich, fertile and productive long before they were receiving billions in aid from the U.S. and others to defend themselves.


What's ludicrous is neocon sheep such as yourself who fall for claims of WMDs, connections with al-Quaeda, and load of other ludicrous disinfo garbage. Have fun supporting another a war of agression. I'm not surprised DJ Alex's comments made you laugh, you share his sick mentality. Oh, and btw, absolute disregard of international law and human rights, provocation, military occupation, and illegal expansion and annexation of land isn't defence, it's theft and agression.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-16-2006 18:22:

quote:
Originally posted by homerj14
so im assuming shaloin_z your against racial profiling at airports?


Yes.


Posted by homerj14 on Oct-16-2006 18:27:

are you goin to agree also that Most terrorism is done by Muslim Extremists, besides Israel as you say, and some white guy in Oklahoma In israel I know they have caught a number of people at Border checkpoints who they kept a "Watchful eye out for" and have certainly prevented an attack.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-16-2006 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by homerj14
are you goin to agree also that Most terrorism is done by Muslim Extremists, besides Israel as you say, and some white guy in Oklahoma In israel I know they have caught a number of people at Border checkpoints who they kept a "Watchful eye out for" and have certainly prevented an attack.


No, majority of the terrorism is state sponsored terrorism, which is far worse in terms of it being much greater in scale and magnitude, and also has far more devestating effects. Guess who the leading terrorist state is? I'll give you a hint, it's the same one that trained and funded al-Quaeda in the first place.


Posted by homerj14 on Oct-16-2006 18:35:

did this certain someone govern your state at one time?
if so I really meant these small liberation attacks


Posted by Glenn-Holmes on Oct-16-2006 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Well it's not such a crazy suggesion you know, espeically considering it wasn't entirely serious (although I was half serious). Look at all the developments that have taken place since 9-11. The Patriot Act, the Detainee Bill, the Military Commision Act of 2006, a war of agression (Iraq), another one possibly coming very soon against Iran, illegal spying, indefinite detention and torture without any evidence (including US citizens), the general loss of liberty and privacy, and other things I can't recall at the moment. This administration is abosolutely nuts; it's considers itself to be above the law, the constituion & Bill of Rights, international law, the Geneva convention, and has already fought one war of agression with another one probably coming very soon.

But I don't think any of that makes a difference to alot of you, and indicates nothing whatsoever. Well, we'll find out pretty soon in most probability and it'll be way to late by that time. And I guess I won't be around to say "I told you so!"






yeah this is one side of the story and i believe that the truth is even worst than that sadly... but on the other hand there is a serious problem of some groups of radical muslims that don't believe in what you and i believe. - sadly these people have taken themselves the right to "understand" the Kuran as they want and in the name of "god" they believe everything is accepted

im not saying all or even most of muslims like that - it would be a lie to say that. but actions must be taken against the radical groups. wether the actions dealt on this topic are going way too far or not well thats a good question i don't know the answer to. but i think other solutions are needed.
at the end of the day i try to think about the people who are just like me, wants to live their life and never did anything wrong - is it ok to just spy on them aswell?


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