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The Worse computer applications ever for music.

I am waiting to hear opinions

1) Fruity Loops
2) Virtual Turntables.
3) Reason
4) Acid
5) Cakewalk
6) GOldwav
7) Cubase
8) Recycle

how could you posibly forget Hammerheard 1.0 THE WORST APLICATION... EVER!

you know its the one with the subwoofer right on the screen!!!

HAMMMER HEAD!!!!!!!! AHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! A joke! A pure joke! The worst drum application I have EVER encountered in my whole life! A roland MC-303 is better!

There's nothing wrong with fruity loops, reason, cubase, or recycle. You mentioned cakewalk... cakewalk what? Cakewalk Sonar is a good sequencer.

indeed. Your list of most horrible music software seems to contain lots of professionally used software. I mean, cakewalk, cubase, recycle? You'll find them in professional studio's. Unlike some e-jay stuff which you don't mention.

I think eJay, mixman, and magix music maker are certainly some of the worst programs.

I think at least half of that list would go on just about everybody's best software list.

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Originally posted by Michael Russo There's nothing wrong with fruity loops, reason, cubase, or recycle. You mentioned cakewalk... cakewalk what? Cakewalk Sonar is a good sequencer.

The only computer application I ever touch is Cool Edit. ANd thats to record records. How can you learn anything from a computer, And then go use real equptment? And yes, Fruity loops, Look at the name, It explains it all. Their is no reason for me to tell you why reason sucks. And Cubase has a bad interface. Confussing.

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how could you posibly forget Hammerheard 1.0 THE WORST APLICATION... EVER!

*cough*

It's FREEWARE! What the hell did you expect???

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery *cough* It's FREEWARE! What the hell did you expect???

Good point

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Originally posted by extulas How can you learn anything from a computer, And then go use real equptment? And yes, Fruity loops, Look at the name, It explains it all. Their is no reason for me to tell you why reason sucks. And Cubase has a bad interface. Confussing.

You are full of it. I use cakewalk in conjunction with "real equipment" (yes that's what cubase, cakewalk and recycle were originally designed for)

And of course you learn stuff from using software, x0x sequencing, what filters do, envelopes, effect routing.

I've played around a bit with both fruity loops and Reason (btw what the hell is in a name) and they are just plain good software. Reason is designed to have an interface that resembles "real equipment". And propellerheads succeeded. I don't know if you ever touched some gear, my guess is you couldn't make a decent beat with fruityloops so you think it's sucky, but "if only you had hardware you'd rock"

I blow my nose in your general direction

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Originally posted by Pjotr G You are full of it. I use cakewalk in conjunction with "real equipment" (yes that's what cubase, cakewalk and recycle were originally designed for) And of course you learn stuff from using software, x0x sequencing, what filters do, envelopes, effect routing. I've played around a bit with both fruity loops and Reason (btw what the hell is in a name) and they are just plain good software. Reason is designed to have an interface that resembles "real equipment". And propellerheads succeeded. I don't know if you ever touched some gear, my guess is you couldn't make a decent beat with fruityloops so you think it's sucky, but "if only you had hardware you'd rock" I blow my nose in your general direction

Ok, Reason was made by a crappy band. Propellerheads are so bad, And they use all that software. And I admit, It does resemble actually instruments, And the tab thing to see the back is interesting. But I just dont like it.... And why would you blow your nose in my direction? What have I done? Express my opinion? So now i get snot?

nevermind, I learned alot from Reason, and have transfered those skills to use my hardware. Because using reason first, I figured out all the controlls and settings of my supernova within a day! and reason is a decent program anyways, you just have to know how to use it. ..

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Originally posted by extulas Ok, Reason was made by a crappy band. Propellerheads are so bad, And they use all that software.

propellerheads is the company, a devision of Midiman, its not a band!

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono nevermind, I learned alot from Reason, and have transfered those skills to use my hardware. Because using reason first, I figured out all the controlls and settings of my supernova within a day! and reason is a decent program anyways, you just have to know how to use it. ..

Congradulations

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Originally posted by extulas The only computer application I ever touch is Cool Edit. ANd thats to record records. How can you learn anything from a computer, And then go use real equptment? And yes, Fruity loops, Look at the name, It explains it all. Their is no reason for me to tell you why reason sucks. And Cubase has a bad interface. Confussing.

Actually, I learned how to beatmatch using Virtual Turntables, then when I bought my techs, only took me a few hours to learn how to beatmatch.

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono propellerheads is the company, a devision of Midiman, its not a band!

WHAT THE?! Thier a swedish band! How the hell do you know what your talking about?!

No, propellerheads is the company that actually made the software... a seperate entity from the band you speak of.

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Originally posted by extulas The only computer application I ever touch is Cool Edit. ANd thats to record records. How can you learn anything from a computer, And then go use real equptment? And yes, Fruity loops, Look at the name, It explains it all. Their is no reason for me to tell you why reason sucks. And Cubase has a bad interface. Confussing.

Cubase doesn't have a "bad interface". It might be confusing, but that's because it's intricate and complex. It's not made for little amatures that loop preset patterns on their cheap ass hardware and think that's a song. Cubase, among calkwalk products, Logic, and ProTools are found in virtually every decent studio, professional or otherwise....period. You ask how people can learn from a computer...this doesn't make much sense. I suppose you're refering to using a computer in lieu on hardware, but realize that LOTS of producers use computers to sequence and master tracks at very least.

Whats the point of it then? They dont make anything easier. Part of music is being frustrated. Frustration makes the best music. You get mad at something, So you make it better. Doesnt nakle much sense to let a computer do the work for you.

The computer doesn't make music for you. Getting frustrated at gear (soft or hard) also doesn't help my music.

You can use the PC as an instrument. What's wrong with that. It has a keyboard and a display and a mouse. If you would take them away and add rack ears and some knobs and an LCD on it and label it "sequencer/hard disk recorder" would that make it better in your opinion?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by omega
[B]No, propellerheads is the company that actually made the software... a seperate entity from the band you speak of.


Actually propellerheads made rebirth and recycle themselves. They know all this technical computers stuff and wrote it so they could make noises for their tunes. Maybe midiman brought out them for reason or something. I read it in a interview with fm about 4 years ago.

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Originally posted by Pjotr G The computer doesn't make music for you. Getting frustrated at gear (soft or hard) also doesn't help my music. You can use the PC as an instrument. What's wrong with that. It has a keyboard and a display and a mouse. If you would take them away and add rack ears and some knobs and an LCD on it and label it "sequencer/hard disk recorder" would that make it better in your opinion?

Yes, Yes it would.

Why? because it then has crossed the magical border between hard-and software?

There's a cool rack device out there, the SoundArt Chameleon. It's a rack unit with a LCD display and a couple of knobs and a DSP chip. But it doesn nothing, you have to write programs for it yourself (or get hold of them) and load them into the machine (via midi dump for cryin out loud). So you can make it what u want, a synth, or a delay, or a distortion unit. The gray area between softsynths and hardsynths is increasing. What do you think about machines like this? good because you can rack mount it? It's C++ program, you can just as well put it in a VST.

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Originally posted by extulas I am waiting to hear opinions 1) Fruity Loops 2) Virtual Turntables. 3) Reason 4) Acid 5) Cakewalk 6) GOldwav 7) Cubase 8) Recycle

U, my friend, suck major rear...

[Dan]

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Originally posted by D_G U, my friend, suck major rear... [Dan]

Excuse me for being orginal. And not being a trendy kiddie who loops track after track of a Paul Van Dyk song. Excuse me for actually takeing time to make my music sound good. Sorry for haveing miney to actually buy instruments...And haveing parents and a girlfriend who buy me instruments

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Originally posted by extulas Excuse me for being orginal. And not being a trendy kiddie who loops track after track of a Paul Van Dyk song. Excuse me for actually takeing time to make my music sound good. Sorry for haveing miney to actually buy instruments...And haveing parents and a girlfriend who buy me instruments

You think you're the bomb because you use "instruments" or sumpin? Congratulations. You can do varying thigns with a pc, including being a trendy kiddie copying other songs. You can ALSO do that with hardware. Original my ass. What do you think softsynths don't allow you to edit your own patches?

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