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Posted by erdega on Oct-18-2006 02:57:

King "Islamic State Of Iraq" Announced

Anglo Ameican dogs of war and imperialism are getting very nervous as they are attacked every day, make that every minute and now they will have created a state where they'll never be welcomed before they retreat

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Mujahideen Shura Council in Iraq Declares the Establishment of the Islamic State in Iraq
By SITE Institute

October 15, 2006

An 8:32 minute video was issued by the Mujahideen Shura Council in Iraq today, Sunday, October 15, 2006, declaring the establishment of an Islamic state in Iraq. Depicted is the official spokesman of the Islamic State of Iraq and from its �Ministry of Information,� dressed in white, seated in front of a flag bearing the banner, �No God but Allah, and Muhammad is His Messenger�. A white circle obstructs viewing his face. A message introducing the video explains that the �state of the truth,� the state of Islam, has been created to protect the Sunni people, and will judge according to the Islamic Shari�a (law), using such as an aegis for the people, and to defend the religion. It also calls upon Muslims to provide financial support, men, and prayers.

[text missing] conditions the Sunni Muslims in Iraq were experiencing, such as crime and aggression. He states: �Your brothers announce the establishment of the Islamic State in Baghdad, Anbar, Diyala, Kirkuk, Salah al-Din, Ninawa, and in other parts of the governorate of Babel, in order to protect our religion and our people�. Further, the Mujahid delivers a special call to the tribal heads in Iraq, and to all Sunni Muslims in that country, to pledge loyalty to the �Emir of the Believers,� Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, by their adherence and obedience.


Original Transcript
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Transcript: Mutayibeen Alliance Declares The Establishment Of The Islamic State In Iraq

The recently formed Mutayibeen Alliance, spearheaded by the Mujahideen Shura Council that includes Jaish Al-Fatiheen, Jund al-Sahaba, Kataeb Ansar al-Tawheed wal-Sunnah, and many Tribal Chiefs among others as well as the Mujahideen Shura Council that consists of Al-Qaeda in Iraq and seven other Mujahideen groups released a notable statement on Sunday declaring the establishment of the Islamic State of Iraq.

In the 8:32 minute video released October 15, 2006, the unnamed official spokesman from the Ministry of Information in the newly formed Islamic state explains that the state of Islam has been created to protect the Sunni people who have been the victims of death squads, oppression and violence by both the Americans and their Iraqi collaborators.

Here is the statement, published here uncut and uncensored, as translated by JUS.

We remind our viewers that the opinions and points of view expressed in this statement are those of the author and shall not be deemed to mean that they are necessarily those of JUS, the publisher, editor, writers, contributors or staff. In addition, JUS assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of third party content.

The Mutayibeen Alliance Brings You Good News Of The Establishment Of The Islamic State Of Iraq

After the Kurds turned to the State of the North, and the Rafidah (Shiites) where granted the federation of the South and Central Province, and with aid from the Jews in the North and the Saffavids in the South, protected by black-minded, black-hearted and black-acting military militias, they turned to our brothers from Ahl-As-Sunnah and went far in spilling their blood and desecrating their honor, making them suffer the most ugly forms of killing, torture and expulsion, until Ahl-As-Sunnah became like the orphans in the banquet of the wicked. It therefore became necessary for the honorable and the free among Ahl-As-Sunnah, the Mujahideen, the working Ulema and the dignitaries to offer something to their brothers, their sons and families, especially under this fa�ade called the State of Malki, who regretfully carried out acts of traitors of Ahl-As-Sunnah, obscuring the religion of the people and willingly forfeiting their nation�s rights.

Therefore, your brothers in the Mutayibeen Alliance bring you good news of the establishment of the Islamic State of Iraq, in Baghdad, Anbar, Diyala, Kirkuk, Salahaldeen, Naynawa and parts of Babel and Waset province, in order to protect our religion and our people so that there is no Fitnah (Disbelief) and so that the blood and sacrifices of your Mujahideen sons are not lost in vain.

{The speaker then continues with legal evidences showing that the appointment of an Amir is obligatory on Muslims, quoting from Imam Shawkani and Ibn Taymiyyah R.A who used evidences from the Prophet SAW Hadeeth.}.

And why not since we are blessed with Allah�s Power and Assistance that is being spread widely; our arms reaching further and our bases more secure than the government of Palestine whose legitimacy was accepted by many despite the fact that the occupying Zionist kills and captures whoever they will and frees whomever they will at any time and place, as is clear from the capture of more than 60 of their ministers and statesmen. The American occupier doesn�t reach even one of our soldiers without us spilling their blood, and Allah is a witness to that many times over.

And we, as we announce the establishment of this state, relying on the Sunnah of the Prophet (SAW) when he went from Mecca to Medina and established the State of Islam there, despite the fact that a coalition of the polytheists and the people of the book were against him. Since the Jews had their separate areas and were at very high levels of administration, military training and organization and while the hypocrites and the polytheists who joined them headed by Ibn Sulul who craved to rule over Medina, challenged the young state, the Prophet (SAW) was ready to give a third of Medina�s harvest. Despite their limited numbers and equipment, it was necessary so that the state became a refuge for the Muslims, where their rights were protected against those who sought to hurt them. And we, with Allah�s Might and Power, have control over many parts (of Iraq) that is equal to the area of the first Medina state; a state where the enemies had no presence and the Mujahideen established the Sharia Hudud (Punishments) at the earnest request of Ahl-As-Sunnah themselves.

Let the invader aggressors and the spiteful Rafidah (Shiites) know that the blood of Ahl-As-Sunnah is dear and valuable and they will not be split apart in vain after today. We will face any transgression from them with Allah�s Strength, with a harsher and more severe retaliation that has no limits. And let them know that the Baghdad of Rasheed, the Land of the Khilafah, was built by our ancestors and it will not leave our hands except over our dead bodies and skulls, and we will continue to plant in it anew the Flag of Tawheed, the Flag of the State.

And we call upon all the Mujahideen, the Scholars of Iraq, the Tribal Chiefs, and the masses among Ahl-As-Sunnah to pledge allegiance to the Amir of the Mu�mineen, the honorable Sheikh Abu Omar al-Baghdadi today, to listen and obey his orders whether favorable or not, and to work hard to strengthen the pillars of this state; to sacrifice for it our lives and what we hold valuable, and we promise you that we will be sincere and loyal, dealing with you in justice and kindness, proceeding you using the Book of Allah, and the Sunnah of the Prophet (SAW) not deviating from it a single inch. We will drive away the invaders, and establish peace and security, an honorable life, not depriving you of the goods of your land, for it is yours, and we will extend our hands to our Muslim brothers around the world, especially, around our dear country, providing them our good and experience, while we benefit from what they have that is good and knowledge.

In addition, we call upon all Muslims from Ahl-As-Sunnah around the world, to aid us starting with words and ending with blood for you are our source of power, and it is in you we extend our hope after Allah, so do not fail us, and stand with us. Defend us and burn the land under the one who wants harm to us.

And we extend a special appeal to the learned, the people of Knowledge, asking them to fear Allah in us, and be a support for us, and incite the people to defend us and pray for us.

�Honor, power and glory belong to Allah, to his messenger, and to the believers, but the hypocrites know not.�

Spokesman, Ministry of Information
The Islamic State of Iraq
22 Ramadhan 1427
October 15, 2006


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Posted by Lilith on Oct-18-2006 03:20:

Hardly think an Iraqi state will emerge after the withdraw, more like two sects of Sunni and Shi'i doing what they do, which is kill each other. Like they did before Saddam and like they'll do after everyone else leaves.
'course youre probably just trolling really rather than anything useful so theres not much point in arguing anything.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Oct-18-2006 03:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Hardly think an Iraqi state will emerge after the withdraw, more like two sects of Sunni and Shi'i doing what they do, which is kill each other. Like they did before Saddam and like they'll do after everyone else leaves.


Of course the States will get blamed for it because it's not like their problems hasn't existed for hundreds (or thousands) of years or anything...


Posted by Lilith on Oct-18-2006 03:32:

Yes I know, but I was just pointing out there is no one 'Islam', just like there isnt one 'Christian' group. They all believe in various sects and so forth before anything or anyone else.


Posted by erdega on Oct-18-2006 03:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Hardly think an Iraqi state will emerge after the withdraw, more like two sects of Sunni and Shi'i doing what they do, which is kill each other. Like they did before Saddam and like they'll do after everyone else leaves.
'course youre probably just trolling really rather than anything useful so theres not much point in arguing anything.


First task is to expel the occupation and then the mess left behind will be divided into 2 islamic states loyal to Al Qaida and Iran respectivelly . Of course I don't expect Americans to get humbled anytime soon which will lead to further bloodshed making any other recent war pale in comparison . Then there is kurds who will seek their own state and Turkey being completelly opposed to it which will make this war even bigger . Also I don't see where will Americans park their troops in the middle east making it even more problematic


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-18-2006 04:48:

Re: "Islamic State Of Iraq" Announced

quote:
Originally posted by erdega
Anglo Ameican dogs of war and imperialism are getting very nervous as they are attacked every day, make that every minute and now they will have created a state where they'll never be welcomed before they retreat


the Anglo Dogs of War want to go home and don't understand what is so hard to grasp the concept of not killing your own peaceful neighbor to spite the other peaceful in the neighborhood.

they're not growing nervous. these Anglo American Dogs of War have not only witnessed but have breathed, eaten and defeated the face of ritualistic brutality that plagues the perverted doctrine of Mohammed.

they've lived among the squalor that is Islamic oppression. whether it was pandered by a secular mad man or bequeathed by a ruthless religious sect.

there's nothing the Mujahadeen can do that hasn't been done before so wretchedly. and thats all they have.

thats all your precious Mujahadeen can offer a peaceful Muslim man, wretchedness. Wretched violence to bring forth a wretched existence.

peaceful Muslim men aren't stupid, and yet thats what Erdega's brand of convincing relies heavily upon. the ignorance of a once proud people.

those people know how to live peacfully among their Sunni and Shia counterparts. they did it for decades before, and currently in a dozen other Middle Eastern countries. but what the f**k makes Iraq so special Erdega?

what gives the f**king coward Mujahadeen the right to tell those 17 million peaceful Iraqis how to live if the "Anglo enemy" is asking them to live in peace?

and what the f**k do you think you, Erdega, has to gain propagating this violence for someone elses cause. it's not your cause. at least not one you'd want dictating your assumed priviledge, right? or are you that militant to give yourself to said cause?

i don't know, i'm asking. cause you say a lot of shit but haven't given any indication that you really believe in the Mujahadeen other than crap i hear from former burn out hippies and career politicians.


Posted by occrider on Oct-18-2006 05:16:

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Of course the States will get blamed for it because it's not like their problems hasn't existed for hundreds (or thousands) of years or anything...


Umm right it's not like Bush 41 didn't highlight these problems as justification for not invading Iraq. It's the fact that Bush 43 carelesley ignored these problems as a part of their master plan which is coincidentally, subsequently failing. Soooo what are you trying to say exactly? This problem has existed for hundreds (of thousands ) of years but we shoulnd't be blamed for failing to anticipate this milleniall antithapy?? wtf?


Posted by Krypton on Oct-18-2006 05:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Hardly think an Iraqi state will emerge after the withdraw, more like two sects of Sunni and Shi'i doing what they do, which is kill each other. Like they did before Saddam and like they'll do after everyone else leaves.
'course youre probably just trolling really rather than anything useful so theres not much point in arguing anything.


I can see it. I can't see a unified iraq. I think the best solution is three separate states. Other than that, you'de need an extremely strong figure, such as saddam, to be able to hold together such a fragile union. I certainly doubt that's going to happen.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Oct-18-2006 06:15:

Saddam is sitting back with popcorn in his hands and enjoying the fireworks.Iraq needs a dictator,nobody wants to admit it tho.


Posted by tathi on Oct-18-2006 06:27:

Iraq needs a dictator friendly to the US



Posted by Q5echo on Oct-18-2006 06:33:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Iraq needs a dictator,nobody wants to admit it tho.


you need a dictator.

i find it ironic that the people most vocal against the Bush Doctrine are the ones that give the least credit to the "suffering masses"


Posted by hardcore trancer on Oct-18-2006 06:43:

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
Iraq needs a dictator friendly to the US





oops I forgo to add "friendly"


Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-18-2006 08:02:

Re: Re: "Islamic State Of Iraq" Announced

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
the face of ritualistic ...brutality that plagues the perverted doctrine of Mohammed...


Q, there's a world of a difference between Islam the above. Do you constantly have to distort and misrepresent it? Are you fond of displaying your ignorance and bigotry?


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-18-2006 08:30:

Re: Re: Re: "Islamic State Of Iraq" Announced

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Q, there's a world of a difference between Islam and the above.


i agree. that's why i don't condone terrorism. is there a problem with that?

if i'm a bigot because i don't buy into the latest mentality behind violence perpetrated by Muslims in the name of Islam for whatever reason, then so be it.

i'm really not that familiar with the violence in the Middle East that doesn't imply some sort of theological endorsment. if there is such, then it's seems to be overshadowed by something. hazard a guess?

the world is full of all kinds of "bigots" i guess. are we gonna condemn the ones that want to live in peace for the sake of name calling?

look, i know that there is a criminal element to the violence in Iraq and any civilized nation for that matter, and i may be guilty of marginalizing or ignoring that aspect of it. but to dismiss the violence as not to be recognized as a bigot could be part of the problem.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-18-2006 08:43:

Re: Re: Re: Re: "Islamic State Of Iraq" Announced

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Q, there's a world of a difference between Islam and the above.


quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
i agree.


How exactly do you agree if you're referring to the Quran as:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
the face of ritualistic ...brutality that plagues the perverted doctrine of Mohammed...


?


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-18-2006 09:19:

i think you misunderstood my hyperbole.

there is the teachings (doctrine) of Mohammed...and then there is the "perverted doctrine" to which i addressed.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-18-2006 09:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
i think you misunderstood my hyperbole.

there is the teachings (doctrine) of Mohammed...and then there is the "perverted doctrine" to which i addressed.


Ok. Next time can you be a little more careful so it's not so easily misunderstood?


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-18-2006 09:46:

will do.


Posted by Lilith on Oct-18-2006 13:04:

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
Iraq needs a dictator friendly to the US




He was very 'friendly' to the US and the US was very 'friendly' to him, when he was invading Iran.

But this level of idiocy cracks me up

quote:
First task is to expel the occupation and then the mess left behind will be divided into 2 islamic states loyal to Al Qaida and Iran respectivelly .


Having some idea of the people over there, firstly no one likes Iran when you're an Iraqi, the idea of such a loyalty too that country is written by someone who has no idea of the geo-politics of the region.
Secondly it works like this-
Family (immediate), Tribe (extended family), Islamic Sect, Country
In that order and in that order of 'loyalty'
You see what happens is people tend too admire AQ because it stands up to the Western countries or at least appears too publically, however support fro AQ quickly dies off once their methods are deployed 'in' their country they realise just how savage and terrible they really are. Once a few bombs go off, maybe killing or injuring a couple of westerners and slaughtering dozens of their innocent civilians in the area, support falls off the scale. Any respect AQ gets is simply at gunpoint from there on in.

Anything else you say is simply idealistic rhetoric because youre probably young, probably a student and have very little grasp on the workings of the real world aside from what you read on the internet and see on TV.
Hit the dirt, see the world for what it is and you'll soon find its nothing like either young man.


Posted by LazFX on Oct-18-2006 13:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
i think you misunderstood my hyperbole.



OMG!! you used a word like hyperbole!! you so so smart Q,




Posted by Moral Hazard on Oct-18-2006 13:56:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Iraq needs a dictator,nobody wants to admit it tho.


+1. Not every state is suitable for democracy. Iraq can only be ruled under an authoritative tyrany or it must divid along tribal lines.


Posted by Lilith on Oct-19-2006 13:15:

Old democracy countries like France, UK and the US didnt exactly form overnight either, it took a fair few generations for the old ways too pass away. It's unreasonable too think that the small seeds which have been sown there will blossom overnight into anything substantial, most of the time it takes a lot of bloodshed and misery.



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