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Posted by tranceaddict674 on Oct-27-2006 06:27:

Vocal Remover?

I am wondering if anyone here has a good Vocal Remover. I have the AnalogX one and it sucks. The song I want to make instrumental is "Teardrop" by Massive Attack.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Oct-27-2006 06:35:

Re: Vocal Remover?

quote:
Originally posted by tranceaddict674
I am wondering if anyone here has a good Vocal Remover. I have the AnalogX one and it sucks. The song I want to make instrumental is "Teardrop" by Massive Attack.


is this even possible?..
i think the best way to do it is by looping certian part of the tracks which dont have the vocals and basically reconstructing the track this way. This is how i made a culturebeat mr vain dub. Im intrested to know if there is technolog to do this as well.. perhaps if you already have an accapella version you can do somehting to target certain frequencies?.


this doesnt belong in music discussion btw it belongs in the music production forum


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-27-2006 08:34:

It cannot be done.


Posted by sleepydragon on Oct-27-2006 09:54:

surely its impossible to take out vocal without taking out some other things aswell.


Posted by kr00t0n on Oct-27-2006 10:18:

Removing the frequencies pertaining to a vocal will also remove those frequencies pertaining to any other sounds playing at the same time.

It cannot be done.


Posted by SMC on Oct-27-2006 12:14:

Like the others wrote, it cannot be done, unless you know Marshall in Alias or another fictional geek who can do the impossible.


Posted by Bagarse on Oct-27-2006 13:19:

A tracheotomy may do it


Posted by Blake_Jarrell on Oct-27-2006 14:56:

its not totally impossible

try using the utility plugin in ableton or any other plugin that fucks with the stereo feild. in the utility plugin you can take out all of the stereo frequencies by turning it to 0% and take out all of the mono frequencies by turning it to 200%. most kick drums, basslines, and vox are going to be down the center in mono, with their reverb, delay, and other effects in stereo. you may not get lucky but its worth a try.


Posted by djgosher2023 on Oct-27-2006 15:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
It cannot be done.


i think it can be done.i have a full sample libary of vocals ripped from songs from 2pac rite down the alphabeth to widchild renegade master.we got them in colllege when training to be a sound engineers.

some of the songs if you listen very carefully on headphones you can hear the song in the background.but with your own music around the vocal get away with it.

heres a modonna 'ray of light' song that it was done on.if you listen u can hear the song in the background at times on ray of light..


link
http://download.yousendit.com/95D1E38D35419675


Posted by Omega_M on Oct-27-2006 15:34:

Dude, it's nearly impossible. In the same frequency range, how do you distinguish between vocal audio frequencies and musical audio frequencies ?

It will be a very difficult DSP task to recognize just the vocal frequencies and filter them out.


Posted by epdarks on Oct-27-2006 15:46:

Contact the artist and tell him to send you a non-vocal version.


Posted by GTS3gEclipse on Oct-27-2006 15:47:

To do it, you would need the original reason/cubase/ableton/whatever production pragram was used file with each layer of the track (kick, synths, etc.) and then you can cut out the layer with the vocals. That is the only way to do it exaclty right and only cut the vocals out, any other way you will cut out at least a small percentage of the other audio. It's like baking a cake, you but all the ingredients together to make the wonderful thing, but can't remove say the flour once it's been cooked, you would need to do it before you baked it. idk if that makes sense, but i gave it a shot.


Posted by capricorn15 on Oct-27-2006 16:02:

quote:
Originally posted by djgosher2023
i think it can be done.i have a full sample libary of vocals ripped from songs from 2pac rite down the alphabeth to widchild renegade master.we got them in colllege when training to be a sound engineers.

some of the songs if you listen very carefully on headphones you can hear the song in the background.but with your own music around the vocal get away with it.

heres a modonna 'ray of light' song that it was done on.if you listen u can hear the song in the background at times on ray of light..


link
http://download.yousendit.com/95D1E38D35419675


he wants the song to be instrumental, not the vocals (acapella) off of it, its way more manageable to make it an acapella than an instrumental


Posted by tranceaddict674 on Oct-27-2006 19:22:

So it can't be done without fucking up other stuff? Awwww that sucks. I am not a fan of vocals. I am guessing the only way I can get an instrumental is to contact Massive Attack... which I cant find an e-mail.

Thanks for all your help.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Oct-27-2006 19:36:

quote:
Originally posted by hadi ******
he wants the song to be instrumental, not the vocals (acapella) off of it, its way more manageable to make it an acapella than an instrumental


If you can get the acapella can't you invert it then apply it back to the track to cancel out the frequencys?

You prob couldn't remove everything perfectly, but with some production skills i would imagine that you could make it so that 99.9% of the people couldn't tell.


Posted by capricorn15 on Oct-27-2006 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
If you can get the acapella can't you invert it then apply it back to the track to cancel out the frequencys?

You prob couldn't remove everything perfectly, but with some production skills i would imagine that you could make it so that 99.9% of the people couldn't tell.


never even thought of that, either way, i dont think anyone can perfectly take out the vocals of a track either. i dont know, i dont produce like that or try that kind of stuff.
and good luck to the guy trying to get the instrumental to that. i emailed looq records to get acapella for momu the dive and they said no, haha


Posted by iammesol on Oct-27-2006 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
its not totally impossible

try using the utility plugin in ableton or any other plugin that fucks with the stereo feild. in the utility plugin you can take out all of the stereo frequencies by turning it to 0% and take out all of the mono frequencies by turning it to 200%. most kick drums, basslines, and vox are going to be down the center in mono, with their reverb, delay, and other effects in stereo. you may not get lucky but its worth a try.





That's how they teach it in schools of audio engineering.



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