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Just got into harmonic mixing.
Ran my first set last weekend and decided to go ahead and figure out the keys of all of my vocal and progressive trance tracks based on how nicely it all flows if you actually apply the concept. I figured it would be neat to ask this since this is being mainly a Trance Forum.

How many of you do harmonic mixing and what are your views on it?

IMO, there's no other way to mix.

And there are plenty of threads on this here.

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Originally posted by RJT IMO, there's no other way to mix.

A lot of DJ's don't mix harmonically (Ferry Corsten, Ti�sto, ...)
It flows indeed very nice, but it cuts you back from picking any track you want at that time.

It's a choice you'd have to make for yourself; but the effort pays off eventually when you do

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Originally posted by Push2005 A lot of DJ's don't mix harmonically (Ferry Corsten, Ti�sto, ...) It flows indeed very nice, but it cuts you back from picking any track you want at that time. It's a choice you'd have to make for yourself; but the effort pays off eventually when you do

I didn't mean it was the only option, I just meant that it's the primary way in which I choose to mix.

And yes, you make a good point in that you have to know when to mix what - Which may not always mean proper harmonic mixing.

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Originally posted by RJT IMO, there's no other way to mix. And there are plenty of threads on this here.

or if you're tonedeaf like me, it doesn't matter what tunes come in, i can't tell the difference. I can hear different levels etc, but i can't actually tell you what each thing is & so on. Clashes are fun

Movin' this to the booth. I guess.

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Originally posted by Push2005 A lot of DJ's don't mix harmonically (Ferry Corsten, Ti�sto, ...) It flows indeed very nice, but it cuts you back from picking any track you want at that time. It's a choice you'd have to make for yourself; but the effort pays off eventually when you do

You are disgustingly missinformed

I mix harmonically as a hobby and i love it.. best way to program a set whether you mix house, trance, prog whatever.. imo it seperates the good dj's from the bad.

It's one way of doing things.

Just yesterday actually I was messing around with that rapid evolution 2 program. I scanned a whole folder of mp3s and sorted them by key, then burned two cds full of same key tracks. It was really fun locking in master tempo and playin around mixing between stuff. Pretty amazing effect when you can literally overlay two tracks for minutes at a time and have them just blend together.

I recommend this to anyone who hasn't tried it; it's fun stuff.

i mix harmonically 100% of the time. though it does limit your track selection, i find it a useful guide to narrow down what i play next. there are so mnay different harmonic mixes you can do, i dont see it as too much of a problem in terms of limitation. been doing it for so long i wouldnt know how to mix any other way.

cheers to nem everyone!

I started off not mixing harmonically and it was fine.

I do some harmonic mixes, but I've found it's limited track selection, and my library isn't diverse enough to accommodate for that quite yet.

The first time I did a harmonic mix it was so much fun.

I think I check the keys to make sure they don't clash obscenely (had a problem w/ mixing Oceanlab - Satellite into just about everything), but then again, I tend to mix out really late.

I'd say I mix harmonically about 40-50% of the time. It's certainly a good technique, and I'd like to be able to determine keys by ear and such.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations It's one way of doing things.

One way of doing things?

Who are you favorite dj's/producers? do you think they ever miss a key in their sets?

Nothing worse than droping energy on the dance floor with a sour mix

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Originally posted by starboy One way of doing things?

That's what I said.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i mix harmonically 100% of the time. though it does limit your track selection,

ive just put 16 tracks together for a set i found it limited my track selection quite abit there were some tracks i want to play 3 of the mixes are of key but they still sound good anyway no one will no any different.

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Originally posted by starboy One way of doing things? Who are you favorite dj's/producers? do you think they ever miss a key in their sets? Nothing worse than droping energy on the dance floor with a sour mix

it doesnt mean that just cause 2 tracks are off key they are certain to sound crap sometimes they go together really well. ive played tracks before that sound like they are meant to be together but then checked and they were of key.

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Originally posted by starboy Nothing worse than droping energy on the dance floor with a sour mix

maybe...

but I think...at least here in CZ people don't give a damn about a sour mix...

and mostly not even about who's playing :-/

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Originally posted by Allied Nations That's what I said.

In time you will learn, especially if you start producing.

i had a go at harmonic mixing but my mixing sounded awful as the set didnt built the way i usually build it.

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Originally posted by sleepydragon ive just put 16 tracks together for a set i found it limited my track selection quite abit there were some tracks i want to play 3 of the mixes are of key but they still sound good anyway no one will no any different.

There's tons of ways to mix tracks harmonically if they're off key and still have them sound good, just have to watch out for energy drop and clashing melodies, have to do more of a drop mix or bass swap etc...

The concept of being limited is far from the truth imo.

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Originally posted by starboy There's tons of ways to mix tracks harmonically if they're off key and still have them sound good, just have to watch out for energy drop and clashing melodies, have to do more of a drop mix or bass swap etc... The concept of being limited is far from the truth imo.

no clashing melodies i play techno / tech trance lol
but for people starting out i think it is limiting as they will have less records.

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Originally posted by starboy it seperates the good dj's from the bad.

Utter shite.

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister Utter shite.

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Originally posted by starboy In time you will learn, especially if you start producing.

Like I still said- It's one way to mix- and I do producer, fairly seriously now.


It's one way of doing things.

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister Utter shite.

Yes, off key mixes are utter shite.

I can't believe im arguing over something so common sense in music.. all of you feel free to mix away as sour as possible, just dont get mad at listeners if it hurts their ears

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