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Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-29-2006 18:06:

Vocoding: not just for vocals

I've been experimenting with using a vocoder on percussive sounds. I find that if you use a kick, hat, or clap to modulate a fairly rich carrier sound, you can come up with some pretty interesting stuff:

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Anyone else do this?

Posted by Getafix on Oct-29-2006 18:31:

Sounds pretty good..Which vocoder did you use to do this? I've never been able to figure out how to work a vocoder!

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-29-2006 19:02:

I used Reason's built-in vocoder. I'll probably start playing around with NI's "Vokator" soon and seeing what sort of sounds I can get out of that, too.

Posted by enfusia on Oct-29-2006 20:12:

Nice,

Thanx for the tips

Greetz

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-29-2006 21:03:

One thing I like about Reason's vocoder is that you can also use it as a 32-band EQ. You can get some interesting effects with extreme EQ settings:

Sounds like an old recording, kind of "haunted"

"Breathing" synth

Posted by BOOsTER on Oct-29-2006 21:05:

haha, nice

I think everyone once tries to do sonic mayhem with vocoders and vocoding absolutely anthing with anything...nice samplies

I always wondered what's a good vocoder VST? I mean I always used reason's one...

and never thought of getting a VST:..

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-29-2006 21:24:

I'm not sure what the best Vocoder VST is. I never really looked into vocoders until recently.

Posted by bobba lou on Oct-29-2006 21:34:

there is a pretty good vocoder that comes in the Computer music magazine dvd.

Posted by bobba lou on Oct-29-2006 21:36:

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
NI's "Vokator"

i must have missed this.. gonna look for it

Posted by echosystm on Oct-30-2006 06:19:

Sounds pretty cool man, gonna go have a play! :P

Posted by kitphillips on Oct-30-2006 10:17:

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Originally posted by dj_palm
alot of finish trance produceres rout their baselines and kicks mixed together thru a vocoder as a breakpart, powerfull efect.
myself use vocoder alot but only on the tracks i dont seem to be able finish.
these samples of you btw are very good!

thats a cool idea... Interesting for a breakdown. One of the big vocoders is NI Vokator. Getting it later this week as part of Komplete. I used a resonator (The Ableton Live one) on a drum loop on something I was screwing around with, sounded pretty cool esp. on the reverse snare hits! I think a vocoder sounds similar but with much more control over the sound right?

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jun-17-2009 05:50:

Megabump!

Been experimenting with this once again, and I'm finding it's really nice for getting shimmering ambient textures. This is a basic synth sound in Reason (one Subtractor) run through a vocoder and modulated by a piano passage:

http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/other/chopvocoded.mp3

It has some added spaciness due to being run through a couple of oscillating filters attached to delays. Here's how the delays sound with more staccato stuff rather than a pad:

http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/other/lilriff.mp3

Posted by kitphillips on Jun-17-2009 07:15:

hah! I was a very new member back then...

Posted by Lucidity on Jun-17-2009 07:40:

Live's built in vocoder is the best sounding software vocoder I have heard, and its integrated very nicely. The one that comes with CM magazine is the same as the one that comes with Fruity L, that one sounds nice too. Vokator is decent, but, I found myself fiddling around with the interface far too long to achieve any substantial results. Live's vocoder sounds nice, even with the built in carrier.

Posted by Wayne_B on Jun-17-2009 19:29:

Hey guys! This sounds very good I must say. Will be experimenting with Live's vocoder. Thanks for a very good tip

Posted by cronodevir on Jun-17-2009 19:50:

The intro of a track I never finished, the first part [before the beat] is all vocoder stuff. :P I like using them as modulators, but vocoders always hog the shit out of the CPU.

Posted by Speactra on Jun-17-2009 20:09:

I think that Vibrasphere has used the vocoder to form "their sound". It's the closest I can get to figure out how they've made some sounds. Listen to Landmark for example.
Great way to explore sounds

Posted by Crash on Jun-17-2009 22:11:

I remember an old track from R�yksopp i think where i had a vocoder over a drumbeat. I experimented with it but like with everything else...nothing happened.

Posted by johncannons1 on Jun-17-2009 23:00:

good tips.. I'm gonna have to try it this weekend..