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Posted by celestialmind on Oct-30-2006 18:37:

Angry Radiator

Plain and simple, this fucking SUCKS.
the fan broke off and put a hole in the radiator, yeah I got a proud leak now. But forget that, the problem is that the way they build this car is they shoved the whole fan and radiator so far into the front bumper that in order to change the fan and the radiator they need to take off:
-the whole front bumper
-the whole headlight assembly
-and disengage the airbag thingie

got a quote for $800 bucks 'cause the labor alone is 2 freakin' hours.

How many of you think this is bullshit.


Posted by Marc Summers on Oct-30-2006 18:44:

do it yourself. the hardest part is disengaging the airbag which is easy a cheese.


Posted by celestialmind on Oct-30-2006 18:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
do it yourself. the hardest part is disengaging the airbag which is easy a cheese.
you need some computer thing to disengage the airbag. I have no idea how to do that.


Posted by EXTREMUM on Oct-30-2006 18:45:

Two hours of labor, shouldn't cost any more than $200. In that case, how can a single radiator cost around $600??? What car is this for? I smell BS.

This sounds like dealership costs. I'd go to a regular mechanic, or do it myself.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-30-2006 18:47:

radiator shouldnt ever be more than $200 from an auto parts store. and what kind of car is this? fan almost in the bumper? sounds a big odd since thats where the bumper support goes along with the radiator support and what not.


Posted by celestialmind on Oct-30-2006 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by EXTREMUM
Two hours of labor, shouldn't cost any more than $200. In that case how can a single radiator cost around $600??? WTF is it made out of - gold?

What car is this going on. This sounds like dealership costs. I'd go to a regular mechanic, or do it yourself.
That's the thing, the mechanic that always did work on my car doesn't have that computer that you would need to disengage the airbag, only a deal can do that.

Roughly $200 for labor including a brand new asshole for me, plus 70 for the thing that the fan spins on, 90 for the fucking fan and under 200 for a radiator, I'm trying to figure out where the other 300 is coming from.

I ain't spending that money, FUCK THAT. I'm almost done paying it off, another week to go and I'm done, if anything I'll worry about it after I get all my equipment.


Posted by celestialmind on Oct-30-2006 18:50:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
radiator shouldnt ever be more than $200 from an auto parts store. and what kind of car is this? fan almost in the bumper? sounds a big odd since thats where the bumper support goes along with the radiator support and what not.
a fucking chevy cavalier, 03.
I miss my GTP. but anyway. I'm trying to figure out where the other 300 is coming from.


Posted by EXTREMUM on Oct-30-2006 18:50:

quote:
Originally posted by celestialmind
That's the thing, the mechanic that always did work on my car doesn't have that computer that you would need to disengage the airbag, only a deal can do that.

Roughly $200 for labor including a brand new asshole for me, plus 70 for the thing that the fan spins on, 90 for the fucking fan and under 200 for a radiator, I'm trying to figure out where the other 300 is coming from.

I ain't spending that money, FUCK THAT. I'm almost done paying it off, another week to go and I'm done, if anything I'll worry about it after I get all my equipment.


Extended warranties save lives. I'm glad I got one, for my car.


Posted by getfoul on Oct-30-2006 18:51:

do it yourself. The thing you will need the most you can get from any snap-on tool dealer. A radiator hose pick. It may be 15-30 dollars but it is WORTH IT in terms of making the do it yourself job tons easier.


Posted by celestialmind on Oct-30-2006 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by getfoul
do it yourself. The thing you will need the most you can get from any snap-on tool dealer. A radiator hose pick. It may be 15-30 dollars but it is WORTH IT in terms of making the do it yourself job tons easier.
don't got the tools y'all. and how is the radiator hose pick gonna fix my broken fan and the hole in the radiator?


Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-30-2006 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by celestialmind
don't got the tools y'all. and how is the radiator hose pick gonna fix my broken fan and the hole in the radiator?


you dont have a wrench set and a socket set? go to sears and get a small set of craftsman. $100 and you can do it all yourself. you dont need the computer to disengage the airbag. disconnect the battery and then disconnect the impact sensor. easy as pie. cant blow an airbag that doesnt have power. you will need to take it to the dealer though to get the SRS computer reset if you happen to accidently connect the battery BEFORE you reconnect the impact sensor.


Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-30-2006 18:58:

i just got done reading the dildo thread, and how we aren't calling it a vibrator...radiator...vibrator...they look similar!!


Posted by Marc Summers on Oct-30-2006 18:59:

Dude, just don't take the bullshit from the garage. Make sure you get a good deal, and if you know you're not, lay down the rules, and you will!

Or dress up as a priest, like in that movie with owen wilson, but he was acting as a real priest.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Oct-30-2006 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by celestialmind
don't got the tools y'all. and how is the radiator hose pick gonna fix my broken fan and the hole in the radiator?


I think what he is saying is that a hose pick will probably your only issue when disassembling your front end. most of the bumper should be push pins or plastic screws which are easy to take out, you just need to make sure you get ALL of them. Once you take off the bumper and the grill, the head light housing nuts should be clear, just take them off.

The reason why the airbag needs to be disconnected is because of the crumple zone in the bumper brace, it should be just a sensor with a clip connected to the housing, just pull the housing out and d/c the sensor.

You can probably just get this done at home, think your price quote is a bit outrageous and you are getting your balls squeezed.


Posted by getfoul on Oct-30-2006 19:04:

for disconnecting sensors/fasteners i have a tiny pocket screw driver (flat head), and a pocket LED flashlight. Little things like that make your life easier when it comes down to it.

A radiator should be a cake job.


Posted by EXTREMUM on Oct-30-2006 19:13:

He could've had the money available to him, if he didn't turn into such pansy, by turning down those DJing gigs, at the gay clubs he was blabbing about, not so long ago...



http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=367225


Posted by celestialmind on Oct-30-2006 20:06:

quote:
Originally posted by EXTREMUM
He could've had the money available to him, if he didn't turn into such pansy, by turning down those DJing gigs, at the gay clubs he was blabbing about, not so long ago...



http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=367225
Jesus Chris guys, that was ages ago, and it has nothing to do with that, it does however have everything to do with a dealer using expensive parts and trying to charge me up the yan-yan with their labor costs. I'll try doing it myself if possible, we'll see what happens.


Posted by EXTREMUM on Oct-30-2006 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by celestialmind
Jesus Chris guys, that was ages ago, and it has nothing to do with that, it does however have everything to do with a dealer using expensive parts and trying to charge me up the yan-yan with their labor costs. I'll try doing it myself if possible, we'll see what happens.


You should get quotes, from other repair shops, before you decide to get brave.


Posted by celestialmind on Oct-30-2006 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by EXTREMUM
You should get quotes, from other repair shops, before you decide to get brave.
Yeah dude, that was my plan, thanks for the help guys and the positive words of confidence boost.


Posted by getfoul on Oct-30-2006 20:47:

there are plenty of manuals out there too to see what all needs to be done specifically for that car.

try cavi forums too. they should be good for something finally.


Posted by EXTREMUM on Oct-30-2006 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by getfoul
there are plenty of manuals out there too to see what all needs to be done specifically for that car.

try cavi forums too. they should be good for something finally.


Every auto parts store has either Chilton or Haynes auto repair manuals. Best of all, they're both model specific. However, Chilton is better known to have the correct specifications, versus Haynes.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-30-2006 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by EXTREMUM
Every auto parts store has either Chilton or Haynes auto repair manuals. Best of all, they're both model specific. However, Chilton is better known to have the correct specifications, versus Haynes.

thats half truth. neither are fully correct as they are NOT specific enough when it comes to narrowing model years down. its too broad and vague at times also.


Posted by EXTREMUM on Oct-30-2006 23:44:

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
thats half truth. neither are fully correct as they are NOT specific enough when it comes to narrowing model years down. its too broad and vague at times also.


Personally, I'd rather get a manual from the dealership. For example, the CD-ROM manual for my car (made by Bentley) costs $95.99, for a reason...

1. It's a German car.
2. It includes everything I need to know about the car, with hyperaccurate specs.
3. Detailed diagrams of procedures, with specs and tools needed.
4. Perfect for the do-it-yourselfer.


Posted by gehzumteufel on Oct-31-2006 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by EXTREMUM
Personally, I'd rather get a manual from the dealership. For example, the CD-ROM manual for my car (made by Bentley) costs $95.99, for a reason...

1. It's a German car.
2. It includes everything I need to know about the car, with hyperaccurate specs.
3. Detailed diagrams of procedures, with specs and tools needed.
4. Perfect for the do-it-yourselfer.

dude bentley manuals FTW!



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