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Posted by L4DD13 on Nov-02-2006 10:38:

Unhappy Why???

Why is trance no where near as good as it used to be?

Trance used to be amazin, i could sit for hours and hours listening to it and in some cases repeat some tracks over and over again but now i just cant do that.

It doesnt give me the buzz that it used to.

Does anyone else have this problem?

Cheers.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Nov-02-2006 10:43:

Do you think it�s because of you or because of the music?


Posted by L4DD13 on Nov-02-2006 10:47:

Personally I think its because of the music.

The new stuff sound soo different from say, 3-4 year ago. It seems more high pitched and alot of them are borderline cheesy.

And alot of vocals have popped up IMHO and 9/10 vocals write off a track.


Posted by GrimReaper on Nov-02-2006 10:55:

quote:
Originally posted by L4DD13
And alot of vocals have popped up IMHO and 9/10 vocals write off a track.

That's often because many good, great trancers even, start out as instrumentals and to boost sales poppy vocals about various long lost love and such nonsense are added into them later on. In most cases the vocals don't work at all and just put you off from the track because they weren't supposed to be there in the first place.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Nov-02-2006 11:03:

Well, to be precise, most of todays trance production does not need cheesy vocals to become shit. It even managed to go downhill instrumental-wise.


Posted by GrimReaper on Nov-02-2006 11:07:

Yeah and that's why i hardly ever listen to "new" trance.. besides some very few exceptions.


Posted by Fledz on Nov-02-2006 11:55:

Lots of people have this problem and lots don't.

It's an endless debate. Trance is not dead and to many people it is better than it was before. Your tastes have changed, nothing more


Posted by Jeremy H on Nov-02-2006 11:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Your tastes have changed, nothing more

No. The music have changed.


Posted by L4DD13 on Nov-02-2006 11:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Lots of people have this problem and lots don't.

It's an endless debate. Trance is not dead and to many people it is better than it was before. Your tastes have changed, nothing more


Lol that makes no sense to me.

How have my tastes have changed if i still like the old stuff?
I could under stand your post if i said that the new stuff is far better than the old stuff, my tastes would have changed then. But i still like the old stuff, so I would say that its the music that has changed.


Posted by Quethas on Nov-02-2006 12:23:

Music has changed.

It has become that generic ASOT-stuff


Posted by pvdAngel on Nov-02-2006 13:37:

Without going into a flame, I agree it's the music that's changed, although for me, it's my taste as well. I hardly listen to new trance these days. I'm more drawn into indie, punk, soundtrack and alternative.


Posted by Gauss on Nov-02-2006 14:06:

quote:
Originally posted by pvdAngel
Without going into a flame, I agree it's the music that's changed, although for me, it's my taste as well.

+1, both has changed.


Posted by Sykonee on Nov-02-2006 17:01:

I've found trance, yes even Armin's "it worked in 2001 so it's still money!" style seems fine, so long as played in decent doses.


And that's the problem right there. It isn't that the music is bad, but the DJs and producers of it just keep playing the same bloody thing over and over and over. If music is a drug, then your body has adapted to it and the high isn't as good as it once was. Time for some new drugs... er, music.


Posted by Zombie0915 on Nov-02-2006 17:12:

because time doesnt stay still


Posted by KilldaDJ on Nov-02-2006 17:13:

music changes, people change.

sure im a sucker for 1998-2003 sorta trance but it just kinda sucks now. i even hate indie. franz ferdinand ruined my life.


Posted by Zombie0915 on Nov-02-2006 17:16:

Ive been getting back in touch with popular stuff these days, its like ive been living under a rock everybody knows these tunes and ive ignored them all these years,

some of them are actually fun too, not neccessarily top40, but the stuff you hear your friends talking about and wonder where it came from.


Posted by leigao84 on Nov-02-2006 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
Ive been getting back in touch with popular stuff these days, its like ive been living under a rock everybody knows these tunes and ive ignored them all these years,

some of them are actually fun too, not neccessarily top40, but the stuff you hear your friends talking about and wonder where it came from.


Wait, you live in NC and you have friends that talk about any type of trance tracks??? At all?? So basically you're friends with the one other person that live in NC that listen to trnace?

Ok, just kidding.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Nov-02-2006 18:07:

/agree, both have changed


Posted by Spirit5 on Nov-02-2006 18:10:

Music changes, and you grow out of those styles but there are always stuff out there that might be similar...have similar things that you look for in music. There are a lot of music i've discovered in the past year that isn't quite trance, but it has a lot of things I looked for in certain trance tracks...nice smooth beats, uplifting and euphoric melodies and harmonies, and just an ethereal feel to the tracks. Some trance still has it, but it doesn't seem as "genuine" as it used to be, it just seems over-done, or not done at all (electro or tech stuff). A good balance is nice, and I miss those tracks with a good balance, nothing too theatrical or over-done, but nothing too simplistic or cold.


Posted by Zombie0915 on Nov-02-2006 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by leigao84
Wait, you live in NC and you have friends that talk about any type of trance tracks??? At all?? So basically you're friends with the one other person that live in NC that listen to trnace?

Ok, just kidding.


I have about 8 or so friends who talk trance with me, and I know a good 20 or so that will tolerate hearing it but arent into it so much that they know track names and stuff. You'd really be surprised how diverse people's tastes are. The trick to finding people like that is to GO OUTSIDE!


Posted by Fledz on Nov-03-2006 01:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Gauss
+1, both has changed.


I'm sorry, that's sort of what I meant.

It hasn't changed that much, it's just more refined. That, plus your taste's changing aswell, means you don't like it anymore.


Posted by RJT on Nov-03-2006 01:34:

It's all been downhill since "Sandstorm."


Posted by epdarks on Nov-03-2006 02:08:

Its been said already but I'll repeat it. Trance is better now than it ever has been. Production quality is increasing. If you started listening to trance right now, it would be better than it was back in ninteen diggidy two when you started.

Where is Ishkurs' "Nostalgia" picture w/ Jimmy Hendrix when you need it?

Seriously though, listen to house or techno or electro or drum and bass or whatever for a while, and come back to trance, you'll love it again.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-03-2006 02:29:

quote:
Originally posted by epdarks
Its been said already but I'll repeat it. Trance is better now than it ever has been. Production quality is increasing.


Oh do fuck off. I get sick and tired of people so vacuous in their listening tastes they find the ultra-reverbed, ultra-polished, utterly souless trance of today better purely because the production is good. I'd rather listen to a crackly old Drifters record than anything Andy Moor can conjure up.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-03-2006 03:47:

quote:
Originally posted by epdarks
Its been said already but I'll repeat it. Trance is better now than it ever has been. Production quality is increasing.

The more the production quality has gotten up, the less there has been creativity.

It's been said already but I'll repeat it - you cannot polish a turd.



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