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Evangelist steps down amid gay sex allegation
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061103...sex_allegations
Not that there's anything wrong with being gay.
It's just that the biggest bible-thumpers are always the biggest hypocrites: and the fall of a moralizer is a great American spectacle. 
This country has too many moralizers who I hope get what they fucking deserve 
The gay hooker that accused him of this also said that Haggard smoked meth on at least one of their trysts.
By the way, for those of you that have seen the movie Jesus Camp, this is the guy at the end of it who's the leader of the Evangelical Church who meets with Bush every Monday morning.
Re: Evangelist steps down amid gay sex allegation
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| Originally posted by HardTranceProd This country has too many moralizers who I hope get what they fucking deserve |
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| Originally posted by kush paintings I hope you are limiting those "moralizers" to extremists. |
Ha. Just wanted to make sure you weren't trying to dictate how religious people should live their lives.
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| Originally posted by kush paintings Ha. Just wanted to make sure you weren't trying to dictate how religious people should live their lives. |
Maybe if enough religious moralizers get exposed, the masses will start to wake up? I hope so.
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| Originally posted by Akridrot Maybe if enough religious moralizers get exposed, the masses will start to wake up? I hope so. |
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| Originally posted by Marc Summers Start to wake up, and? Become atheists? |
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| Originally posted by Marc Summers Start to wake up, and? Become atheists? Life isn't that simple, unfortunately. The questions will probably be answered in the cosmos, since lately it's been comming up with numerous surprises that make both creationists' and evolutionists' theories questionable. |
haha. ive so been waiting for you opus
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| Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Perhaps I missed something here. What have made evolutionary questionable as of late? Seems I didn't run across that bit of news in the primary literature lately. Perhaps you could shed some light? And please be detailed in your answer. |
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| Originally posted by Marc Summers I'd rather not hijack a thread. |
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| Originally posted by Marc Summers I'd rather not hijack a thread. |
I believe that the Bible says to "Beware false prophets", this would be a prime example.
if you're the top, you're not gay.
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| Originally posted by Spacey Orange if you're the top, you're not gay. |
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| Originally posted by Spacey Orange if you're the top, you're not gay. |
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| Originally posted by HardTranceProd NO, I'm "limiting" this to everyone who wants to dictate to me how to live my fucking life, what values to have, et-fucking-cetera. Get this: If some religious moron starts preaching some shit to me, then the Japanese girl in my avatar will tie him up, strip down, and have her wicked way with him I'm good at converting people, aren't I? |
One of Bush's right hand men to God?
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| White House plays down Haggard ties Pastor used to be briefed weekly on Bush's agenda y Lee Bowman, Scripps Howard News Service November 4, 2006 WASHINGTON - As president of the National Association of Evangelicals, the Rev. Ted Haggard has advised the White House on issues ranging from judicial appointments to steel tariffs. But he also sought to widen the agenda of Christian evangelicals into areas the Bush administration - and many of his Christian brethren - would rather avoid. Haggard resigned as president of the association, which says it represents about 30 million evangelical church members, and took a leave as senior pastor of the 14,000-member New Life Church in Colorado Springs amid allegations that he paid a gay former escort for sex and drugs. Although he had been active in lobbying for conservative Christian causes before, Haggard's profile rose after he became head of the NAE early in 2003. He made frequent visits to the White House and was included in a select group of religious leaders briefed on the administration's agenda during a weekly teleconference with White House staff, a session meant to "feel the evangelical pulse," he's said. "We have direct access (to the White House)," Haggard told a Wall Street Journal reporter shortly before the last presidential election, adding that he could take a concern to the president through staff and get a response within 24 hours. Asked Friday about the Haggard controversy, White House spokesman Tony Fratto downplayed the pastor's connections to the Bush administration. "He had been on a couple of (conference) calls but was not a weekly participant in those calls," Fratto said, adding that Haggard had been to the White House "one or two times." "But there have been a lot of people who come to the White House," Fratto said. Haggard keeps two framed photos of himself and President Bush on the wall outside his church office but also has spoken admiringly in the past of the faith of former Democratic presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter. Haggard was naturally on the "A" list of evangelical Christians invited to the Bush White House for the signing of a bill banning late-term abortions or to be called in advance of any announcement for a chat about pending Supreme Court nominees. Still, he criticized the White House for emphasizing the evangelical faith of failed nominee Harriet Miers, rather than her judicial philosophy. New Life Church sits near the United States Air Force Academy, and Haggard has been at the forefront of evangelicals determined to stop Pentagon regulations that might prevent military chaplains from evangelizing. At the same time, Haggard has angered some religious conservatives for urging Christians to protect Muslims in the days after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, and more recently for urging missionary outreach to Muslims, but not to win converts or force Christianity on them. Last summer, he joined an eclectic group of 27 religious leaders who ruffled the White House with a statement published in newspaper advertisements urging the government to "abolish torture now - without exception" in dealings with prisoners, including those suspected of terrorist activity. In fact, Haggard has argued almost as frequently for freedom from government intervention as he has freedom of religion. He was one of the few religious conservatives to endorse a 2003 Supreme Court decision striking down Texas' anti-sodomy law on privacy grounds. In a 2004 interview with the Rocky Mountain News, Haggard told the story of meeting with President Bush and a half-dozen other evangelicals and using the occasion to argue against the extension of steel tariffs. "Your responsibility is the good of the people, and free trade is the way we get cheaper steel," he recounted telling the president during the session. The taxes were dropped soon after the meeting. Haggard's recent efforts promoted through the NAE a "broad biblical agenda" that included improving health care, ending racism and addressing global warming, which he recently declared should be an evangelical priority. Like the White House, however, Haggard seeks to find environmental solutions through a free-market approach rather than through tight government controls or taxes on emissions of greenhouse gases. Although the association's board approved some broad goals for social activism earlier this year, many Christian conservatives have criticized the move for going beyond the "values" issues that have traditionally been the political focus of the community. http://www.rockymountainnews.com/dr...5118362,00.html |
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| Originally posted by pmoisse lol!! Richard Dawkins vs. Ted Haggard I hadn't actually seen an interview with this nut until I went looking on youtube. This guy is off his tits! He speaks of not being arrogant, yet he uses the most arrogant, condescending tone when giving Dawkins shit for asking legitimate questions. This guy would be annoying as fuck while he was sober. Can you imagine him all spun on a few bumps of crystal? I wonder is he got jacked up before giving bigass hyper sermons? Paul |
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