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Posted by mute79 on Mar-19-2002 17:40:

How would you deal with...

let's say you've been playing for 6 months, you haven't played at any parties yet, but someone calls you up to play at a club with 500+ people... how would you feel and how would you deal with it?

Posted by El~ZaPo on Mar-19-2002 19:25:

If I felt I had the proper skills, I would go for it. I would be nervous but I bet it would all work out.

Did someone call you up and ask?

Posted by skywarp on Mar-19-2002 19:36:

If you are confident that you'll do good, then by all means go for it. On the other hand, if you happen to do horribly, there's much you can lose - the bad reputation will haunt you for quite a while.

One thing, playing on a club system is much different than playing at home. If you can, make sure to get to spin a few tracks in an empty club so you get a sense of what you have to listen for ... the sound levels and the reverb in a club environment are very overwhelming and hard to get used to the first few times.

Posted by mute79 on Mar-19-2002 20:54:

i'm not talking about myself at all... i was just thinking in general... i know i would be VERY nervous... im not sure how i would deal with it tho, thats what i was thinking of

Posted by Kevin on Mar-19-2002 21:04:

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Originally posted by skywarp
If you are confident that you'll do good, then by all means go for it. On the other hand, if you happen to do horribly, there's much you can lose - the bad reputation will haunt you for quite a while.

One thing, playing on a club system is much different than playing at home. If you can, make sure to get to spin a few tracks in an empty club so you get a sense of what you have to listen for ... the sound levels and the reverb in a club environment are very overwhelming and hard to get used to the first few times.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My first live gig was like..."Um, i cant hear anything in my headphones...oh shit!" It doesnt take that long to get used to once your thrown into it like i was. By after the first 3 tracks i figured it out well enough though. Luckily that crowd wasnt a trance crowd(variety night) so they didn't know WTF anyway. It also didnt help that i had no monitor.Blaring-ass loud speakers are hard to cue from.

But if i had the opportunity to blow up in front of 500 trance fans, i would go and tear it the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!(after a few bears anyway!)

********Can't function w/ out alcohol when nervous*********

Posted by j_spot on Mar-20-2002 07:50:

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Originally posted by Kevin

But if i had the opportunity to blow up in front of 500 trance fans, i would go and tear it the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!(after a few bears anyway!)

umm...bears? when did bears come into the conversation?

Posted by Kevin on Mar-20-2002 09:42:

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Originally posted by j_spot

umm...bears? when did bears come into the conversation?

LOL, oops that should read *beers*

Posted by djthunderbird on Mar-20-2002 14:15:

actyally what exactly is a trainwreck? I know itsa bad mix, but how do you define it? Having beats unmatched is not DEFINATELLY a trainwreck, since U can save a lot with EQ-s... and anyway when listening to a mix in the club U couldnt properly hear it anyway since the reverb is usually overwhelming, and what really is a trainwreck U dont even recognize it... I mean its totally easy just sit at your home and listen to a liveset from your headphones and pick out all the mistakes...

and anyway: If anyone asked me to play infront of 500+ peepz Id go for it!

Posted by DJTJ on Mar-20-2002 14:41:

Yeah, definitely go for it mate. If I had the chance to play for 500+ people I'd jump at the chance. I've played to probably around 100 people, and the feeling is great, even with a crowd that small. If it all goes well, then people will not hesitate to ask questions and look into hiring you on a more permanent basis. If it all goes a bit Pete Tong, then just sweep it under the carpet as a first time effort that went wrong, and nobody will hold it against you. At least you'll have the first time experience under your belt and next time it won't be so hard.

Good luck!

Posted by mute79 on Mar-20-2002 14:43:

trainwreck i think is when you think you have 2 tracks beatmatched, but as youre mixing, the tracks start galloping away from one another...

what are some of the major differences between bedroom and club mixing tho? what are some of the things you should look out for, etc....

Posted by Intrinzic on Mar-20-2002 14:49:

If the opportunity ever comes to play in a club, jump on it. It's such a competitive industry, it may be a long time before you get another chance... even if you're good.

Just make sure you practice on the club's equipment while the club is empty. As already mentioned, I can't stress enough how different the sound is in a club compared to your home. If the music is really cranked, you'll also feel the vibrations which makes cueing that much more difficult. And if you practice in an empty club, don't forget the sound will be different when the room is full.

Posted by CrackedLcd on Mar-20-2002 14:54:

As long as you beatmatching and mixing is solid I would go for it...

Posted by DJ Bazz on Mar-20-2002 20:51:

I would just go for it and do it!

Posted by veezee on Mar-21-2002 00:02:

if your tracks are not beatmatched, they are going to gallop away, and yes that causes a trainwreck sound. If your beats are matched, and you didn't drop it on properly, it will still do it, till you catch it up or slow it down and get it lined up.

Jay

Posted by Lost on Mar-21-2002 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Intrinzic
If the opportunity ever comes to play in a club, jump on it. It's such a competitive industry, it may be a long time before you get another chance... even if you're good.

Just make sure you practice on the club's equipment while the club is empty. As already mentioned, I can't stress enough how different the sound is in a club compared to your home. If the music is really cranked, you'll also feel the vibrations which makes cueing that much more difficult. And if you practice in an empty club, don't forget the sound will be different when the room is full.

ditto these comments. the first time i played on a large sound system i couldn't beatmatch for the life of me cuz i was so used to the home version. i felt real bad about that but fortunately the kids didn't notice cuz they really weren't into the beats anyways. the first club i played was hard to get used to but fortunately i was the opener so i got to play on the decks for about a half an hour before anyone else showed up. that helped get used to the decks although i wasn't 100% comfortable with them. i did alright though. and mos def take any opportunity that comes your way if you think you can handle it. but it is hard to get gigs in this industrty and if you pass on an offer then don't expect any more offers from that same person. there are tons of dj's out there. just look at this board. good luck to you all.

lost

Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-21-2002 17:02:

Of course I'd go for it! Trainwreck or not, fucked-up or not, I'd NEVER give up the chance to unleash good quality trance into waiting audiences!!
Reviving the question TranceGeek asked, what EXACTLY are the differences between bedroom DJ-ing and live DJ-ing? (Beside the obvious differences like the lag from PGM to your ears because of the size of the room) I've never played in front of a crowd (don't think I'd EVER get the chance) but I get nervous even when mixing 2 simple tracks in front of my mates... not good, not good.

Posted by deejay_naku on Mar-25-2002 05:04:

I find a lot of similarities between acting and dj'ing. Both make you soooooo nervous before you go on stage or jump into the booth, but once you get it going...It's a drug that doesn't know what a comedown is!

I haven't experienced dj'ing in front of a crowd yet, but I'm waiting for that day so anxiously!!

My way of handling the situation would be following:

If could make a basic mix, even if only a short one (as opposed to PvD's 2min rides...), I'd go for it. I'd get nervous as hell, but it's all good. It keeps me concentrated.

Posted by hapamoto on Mar-25-2002 06:46:

hell yah i would do it.. the most i played in front of was 250 at a big house party... im trying to bust into the club/rave scene but haven't really gotten around to promoting myself yet and people don't just call you to do that sort of thing unless you got connections (which i don't)..

Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-25-2002 09:20:

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Originally posted by hapamoto
hell yah i would do it.. the most i played in front of was 250 at a big house party... im trying to bust into the club/rave scene but haven't really gotten around to promoting myself yet and people don't just call you to do that sort of thing unless you got connections (which i don't)..

I agree, connections are what counts in this field. Diggers sent in a demo tape of his work ebfore he got hired for his first residency, though, but the bottom line behind the art of DJ-ing is you've just got to have initiative to promote yourself. Noone will come up to you and give you a residency for nothing.