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Posted by Deeedeee on Nov-04-2006 16:25:

ZeJayMan's Morrissey/Smith's Appreciation Thread

I won't share you
This charming man
Shoplifters of the world


and of course 'how soon is now?'


Posted by Deeedeee on Nov-04-2006 16:38:

hmm... no Smith fans?!


montana.. i see you baby


Posted by ZeJayMan on Nov-04-2006 16:46:

My favourite band EVER!

Honestly, i could listen to them all day. I've got all of their 12" singles apart from This Charming Man - The New york dancefloor remix.

Funny story, i actually stole a massive Morrissey poster when i was out last night and i was trashed. I found it this morning and was happy as punch.

If i had a camera i would show take a pic. I stole a Borat picture as well lol.

Back on Topic, The Smiths are awesome, and Morrissey's solo work is fantastic as well.


Posted by montana on Nov-04-2006 16:53:

i like the smiths. got meat is murder and the world won't listen. but it's, i have nothing bad to say about them. but i can't say they are my favourites. altho always liked morrissey's stile of writing and his beilefs (altho don't agree to some of them, i eat meat for instance). he sounds more sincere than the emobands of today.


Posted by Deeedeee on Nov-04-2006 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by ZeJayMan
My favourite band EVER!

Honestly, i could listen to them all day. I've got all of their 12" singles apart from This Charming Man - The New york dancefloor remix.

Funny story, i actually stole a massive Morrissey poster when i was out last night and i was trashed. I found it this morning and was happy as punch.

If i had a camera i would show take a pic. I stole a Borat picture as well lol.

Back on Topic, The Smiths are awesome, and Morrissey's solo work is fantastic as well.


!



whoawhoa whoa.. i didn't know there were any EDM remixes of their work

I always thought he had a great voice for jazz or blues. Could you imagine him doing some Tom Waits covers?!

oh and what are your faves?


Posted by ZeJayMan on Nov-04-2006 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Deeedeee
!



whoawhoa whoa.. i didn't know there were any EDM remixes of their work

I always thought he had a great voice for jazz or blues. Could you imagine him doing some Tom Waits covers?!

oh and what are your faves?


it's not edm as such, it's just more suited to play on the dancefloor, it's super rare because morrissey disagreed with it haha, so they cancelled it after abouit 1000 copies.

As for my favourite Smiths song, that's quite tough, but i'll give you a top 5

5: What Difference Does It Make (The Hatful of Hollow one rather than the self titled album)

4: Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others

3: William It Was Really Nothing

2: Barbarism Begins At Home

1: Hand In Glove





I personally think in the entire span of the band, they've only done three songs that i would say are rubbish.

Last Night I Dreamt Somebody loved me, Paint A Vulgar Picture, and Death at Ones Elbow.

For a band with other 100 songs, that's not bad at all...

As for Moz's voice, i just think it just suits my mood all the time. I'm not a depressed person, i just love really dark and moody music, but some of his songs may seem dark or sad, but the lyrics are hilarious.


Posted by ZeJayMan on Nov-04-2006 17:13:

On December 3, 1983, a "New-York" mix by DJ Fran�ois Kevorkian was released. Kevorkian geared the song towards the dancefloor, and it was originally intended to only be pressed in limited numbers for use by New York club DJs. However Geoff Travis, head of the Smiths' record label, Rough Trade, liked the mix and gave it a wide release in the UK. Predictably, it met a chilly reception from fans of a group that seemed almost at odds with dance music and culture, and was quickly deleted.[14] Morrissey later laid the blame on Rough Trade, saying in a February 1984 interview, "I'm still very upset about that. It was entirely against our principles, the whole thing, it didn't seem to belong with us. There was even a question of a fourth version, which would have bordered on pantomime. It was called the Acton version, which isn't even funny."[15] Travis has countered this, claiming "It was my idea, but they agreed. They said 'Go ahead', then didn't like it so it was withdrawn." He also said, "Nothing that ever happened in The Smiths occurred without Morrissey's guidance; there's not one Smiths record that went out that Morrissey didn't ask to do, so there's nothing on my conscience."


Posted by Deeedeee on Nov-04-2006 17:48:

ahhh very interesting. he seems very devout. i feel that you should have the honour of making The Smiths appreciation thread.

and your spot on as far as the dark aesthetics, but if you really listen to the lyrics, it's not so much dark as it is.. olive or gray.

So please please please
Let me, let me, let me
Let me get what I want
This time


'i was looking for a job, then i found a job..
and heaven knows im miserable now.. '

so anyway, im going to wander online to see if i can scope that dancefloor remix!

I knew it, Montana! You'd be in here


Posted by ZeJayMan on Nov-04-2006 17:58:

If you can find it online, i would be surprised, but pleasantly so. I've got ticket's to go see Mozza on 2nd of December and i can't wait, it will be my 4th time and he always puts on an awesome show.


Posted by RapidFire on Nov-04-2006 18:44:

handsome devil!


Posted by breakaholic on Nov-04-2006 22:20:

I've seen them live, not bad. I'm not really a fan but my cousin probably has all the Smiths/Morrissey releases on his collection.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-04-2006 23:50:

Can't stand them. I know they were hugely important to making British rock completely pathetic and all that toast, but I don't like them.


Posted by ZeJayMan on Nov-13-2006 16:00:

Bumper Cars...


Come on, we must have more followers of this incredible band!


Posted by Deeedeee on Nov-13-2006 18:28:

haha.. just you & I. Maybe it's a bit too dim?


Posted by sweetcaroline on Nov-13-2006 19:13:

count me in too as a fan. for me as a depressed kid, it was my happy music


Posted by Deeedeee on Nov-13-2006 19:17:



Three !


Posted by AndskiSpeed on Nov-13-2006 19:38:

i love every smiths record
theyre brilliant
not so much the solo stuff, as im a massive fan of johnny marr's guitar playing

ive also got no idea what system j is on about
please explain


Posted by Xavier on Nov-18-2006 08:10:

Some of my friends recommended the Smiths, and a few months ago I picked up Hatful of Hollow, but I just didn't bother to give it a decent time to listen to.

However I was listening on the train home one day, and then I said to myself "Oh fuck...his singing about me!" and the rest they say is history...

my favs:
William, it was really nothing
How Soon is now
Heaven Knows I'm miserable now
This night has opened my eyes
You've got everything now
Hand in Glove
This Charming Man
Bigmouth Strikes Again
There is a light that never goes out

Been addicted to The Smiths for the past months and I don't think it will end.

I now believe other bands just aren't saying enough to us about OUR lives. This is where The Smiths have succeeded. They are definitely up there.


Posted by ZeJayMan on Nov-22-2006 04:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Xavier

I now believe other bands just aren't saying enough to us about OUR lives. This is where The Smiths have succeeded. They are definitely up there.





great post.


Posted by Deeedeee on Nov-22-2006 05:13:

all wined up, listening to the Smiths!!


Has anyone seen 'I'm Your Man,' the Cohen documentary?


Posted by ZeJayMan on Nov-22-2006 05:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Deeedeee
all wined up, listening to the Smiths!!


Has anyone seen 'I'm Your Man,' the Cohen documentary?



Nope?


Posted by Deeedeee on Nov-22-2006 05:21:

quote:
Originally posted by ZeJayMan
Nope?



Rufus Wainwright, Nick Dave, Antony, etc. all cover his classics. I just figured Smith fans would love Leonard Cohen.. ? Oops, I think Jeff Buckley covered as well.. anyways, worthwhile DVD!

Give me some sad songs, Jay...


Posted by Az on Nov-22-2006 18:33:

"burn down the disco, hang the blessed DJ, because the music they constantly play, says nothing to me about my life, hang the blessed DJ......... hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ.... HANG THE DJ"

my favourite finishing track of all time
i fucking love bigmouth


Posted by JakeC on Nov-22-2006 19:46:

Sweet And Tender Hooligan, London, Rubber Ring and That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore are amazingly amazing. The rest of there stuff is Amazing aswell.

I like the John Peel session versions of the tracks aswell, a bit more roughness and energy to em.


Posted by ZeJayMan on Nov-23-2006 00:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Deeedeee
Rufus Wainwright, Nick Dave, Antony, etc. all cover his classics. I just figured Smith fans would love Leonard Cohen.. ? Oops, I think Jeff Buckley covered as well.. anyways, worthwhile DVD!

Give me some sad songs, Jay...


AHHH Leonard Cohen! Yeah, what a talent. I thought you were talking about a Cohen Brothers dovumentary. I've not seen that. If you're looking for some sad songs, i suggest listening to the album UP by R.E.M, it's one of my favourite albums ever and in my opinion their best work. Listen to At My Most Beatiful and Daysleeper. Some other sad stuff from the cd's i have lying in front of me, i would say you should have a listen to a band called James. Or Check out Blur, they may have a lot of upbeat songs but they have some amazing sad songs.


PLUS! The masters of the genre. Radiohead! But i'm sure you will already know a lot about them.


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