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Posted by discojoe on Mar-20-2002 01:49:

Love him or hate him

I just downloaded a new oakenfold set from djmixes2k and I must say I was surprised. Definitely wasn't what I was expecting. I am not trying to start another debate her really, but I just wanted to make a comment.
To me the set seemed to carry a good number of breaks. I've read in a number of places that breaks could be the next new sound and are ready to explode. I know many people have their beef with oakenfold (and deservedly so) but you have to admit he's always been an innovator and a leader in the dance community. Is this a sign of things to come. Are breaks making a break?

Posted by torontotrance on Mar-20-2002 01:56:

Paul Oakenfold will always have a place in my music history because of his 1999 essential mix world tour. I personally don't like him now but the man will always be a legend in my book.

Posted by Djinn on Mar-20-2002 01:58:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
Paul Oakenfold will always have a place in my music history because of his 1999 essential mix world tour. I personally don't like him now but the man will always be a legend in my book.

Same here. Even though at first I was really excited and thought it was a great set, it's kind of worn off. Breaks just don't do that much for me.

Now if Oak would go back to his style from 99, yeah, then it would be awesome.

Posted by Dmatrox on Mar-20-2002 02:06:

Breaks do seem have more impact on music. The 2nd bedrock release by dj hyper was entirely breaks.

Posted by nate735 on Mar-20-2002 03:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Djinn

Now if Oak would go back to his style from 99, yeah, then it would be awesome.

omg, if he starts playing the 1199 style trance he will be # 1 in no time

Posted by whiskers on Mar-20-2002 04:15:

quote:
Originally posted by nate735

omg, if he starts playing the 1199 style trance he will be # 1 in no time

hell yeah, i wish he'd do that and make more stuff like gu007, another world, and essential mix from rojang... that'd be one hell of a revival!

Posted by CarlosM on Mar-20-2002 04:27:

Yeah... i liked Oakey at 98 too... i still love the Tranceport Album.. it was my first Trance album .... and the album that makes me see the music that i really love and enjoy.

Posted by biznology on Mar-20-2002 05:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Djinn

Now if Oak would go back to his style from 99, yeah, then it would be awesome.

id prolly have less respect for him if he still played that. music around him has evloved too, so the only way he could play that style is by spinning the same old shit over and over again. i cant always get into what hes spinning, but at least hes trying new shiats. late/

Posted by patticus on Mar-20-2002 06:02:

quote:
Originally posted by nate735

omg, if he starts playing the 1199 style trance he will be # 1 in no time

if you guys havent noticed, this style and QUALITY of trance doesnt exist anymore. or else every other dj would be playing.. the closest we get are the usual suspects.

its not like oakie was the only good dj in 1999, EVERYONE ELSE was playing trance too. even sasha... if u look at his older essential mixes, they whip ANYBODY's ass... wicked trance..

so basically forget about 1999, and either love or hate the breaks

Posted by discojoe on Mar-20-2002 06:05:

I agree.. people move on. He definitely wouldnt be the #1 dj in the world if he still played 99.

But has anyone else heard any breaks in any other sets lately.. I'm really cusious

Posted by wookieslut on Mar-20-2002 06:14:

dude there is like 3 other threads on this...stick to one of them ok?

Posted by matt_a on Mar-20-2002 10:18:

Oakenfold is still my fav DJ because of his old 99 and before stuff.
He was really the first trance DJ I really liked (his old stuff) and I still get his older stuff because most of it is better than most of the newer stuff!
I havent bothered with any of his new stuff like the Ibiza CD or any new mixes. But I got Southern Sun!!
His old stuff blows me away! And he will always be my #1 for that! But no matter if you hate him or love him you have to admit he has down shitloads for the dance industry. And surely you will respect him for that!

Posted by oDrori on Mar-20-2002 11:26:

Breaks are definitely making their impact into Trance (I expect that by 2004 it'll almost be 50-50 between breaks and 4 beat)
I personally luv em, but it pisses me a bit that most artist have to do breakbeats in a few of their tracks just to show they're cool and they know how.

Posted by Rostros on Mar-20-2002 12:46:

1998 and 1999 has been a very good year for oakenfold. Unfortunatley For him he is trying to gain somekind of new style into his music , and fans of oakie are finding it hard to like his new styles as they are to familiar with his old styles .

Posted by Az on Mar-20-2002 13:13:

My mate went to see him on friday at GodsKitchen, he played little or no breaks, his mixing was spot on, track selection was very good
his last 6 tracks were..
"amoeba assassin - Piledriver!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oakie - southern sun
ppk - resureection (unknown new mix thats meant to be incredible)
cj bolland the prophet
mauro picotto lizard
M-Diva - Reachin out"
Don't sound bad to me

Posted by nate735 on Mar-20-2002 14:11:

quote:
Originally posted by patticus

if you guys havent noticed, this style and QUALITY of trance doesnt exist anymore. or else every other dj would be playing.. the closest we get are the usual suspects.

its not like oakie was the only good dj in 1999, EVERYONE ELSE was playing trance too. even sasha... if u look at his older essential mixes, they whip ANYBODY's ass... wicked trance..

so basically forget about 1999, and either love or hate the breaks

Its not like every dj is playing breaks, oakenfold seems to be the only one. IMO breaks suck, and will definatly not be the next big thing.

Posted by Great Outdoors on Mar-20-2002 15:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
My mate went to see him on friday at GodsKitchen, he played little or no breaks, his mixing was spot on, track selection was very good
his last 6 tracks were..
"amoeba assassin - Piledriver!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oakie - southern sun
ppk - resureection (unknown new mix thats meant to be incredible)
cj bolland the prophet
mauro picotto lizard
M-Diva - Reachin out"
Don't sound bad to me

Hey, don't sound bad to me!

I've got nothing against breaks, but it just doesn't evolve the same emotions out of me as it does in Trance.. give me my bloodi trance back! We're not b-boys!

Posted by Az on Mar-20-2002 16:09:

Oakie getting back to trance is definately a good thing, the energy he had in his old sets was amazing, and the tricks he pulled whilst mixing lizard were out of this world according to my mate jon, we can expect good things from him this year

Posted by sykadelik on Mar-20-2002 16:56:

I remember the first time I saw Oakie live was back in 2000 at Homelands. What can I say absolutely amazing, I used to love his style of trance. the whole setup for those two hours left me gasping all the lights lasers and sound system. I remember recording each one of his world tours and listening to them on the bus on the way to college. I thought theey were pretty good. But since then for me he has gone pretty downhill. Playing to much commmercial vocal cheese, gone are the days when oaki used to set the trends and play choonz b4 anybody else played them. But then this was in the months leading up to the whole commercialisation of trance music before every tom dick and harry knew what trance was. More to the point Oaki has started to go more commercial, i was not one bit impressed when I watched him live at the NEC last October. i hope he moves back to his old more successful self. Enough of my waffling I am off!

Posted by Blake613 on Mar-20-2002 16:56:

I'm seeing The Chemical Bro feat. Oakenfold & Sasha & Digweed April 20th. I'll tell ya how it goes.

Posted by lexiconavenue on Mar-20-2002 18:23:

ok ok...ive commented on this from last years big oakey thread...even though you guys think he's played out and all, the man is a fuckin genius in terms of his musical selection. he's been behind several different music movements of the late 80's and early 90's. he's got a production list a mile long, a shweet ass record label w/ ma ho bag jan johnson signed....and he kicks ass in person. i think he's still one of the best dj's in the world...

check yaself b4 u wreck yaself

wurd son

Posted by TranceSeeker on Mar-20-2002 19:39:

Posted by discojoe on Mar-20-2002 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by wookieslut
dude there is like 3 other threads on this...stick to one of them ok?

Fuck off with these comments please. I have better things to do with my time than sit in front of my computer and refresh these forums.

Posted by Dmatrox on Mar-21-2002 00:15:

I especially like the 2 years @ cream cds. Download it or buy it.

I hardly hear of people talk about his "perfecto presents another world" 2 disc releases back one or two years ago. The build up in energy to timo mass - ubik is fantastic. The first couple of tracks have an interesting bass to it that feels kinda unique.

Posted by patticus on Mar-21-2002 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by nate735

Its not like every dj is playing breaks, oakenfold seems to be the only one. IMO breaks suck, and will definatly not be the next big thing.

yeah well basically you could have oakie playing cheese (like pvd and ferry are guilty of more often than not, do NOT flame me for this) or going prog like tiesto (and armin on occasion)

he does player deeper trance but its not like in 99 only HE was playing those tracks, cuz everyone did... except for his white labels..

and its not like there's 5 classics in the past year you could really name that havent been already caned by everyone.

so he could be, just another trance dj, or expand his sound.
that being said, i would hope if i saw him in person he would play trance

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