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Nov 7 Judgement Day! DUH-DUH-DUHHH!!!
is today the day the Democrats realize their future? one way or another it will be.
is today the day Republicans "will live in infamy!"? or will they hold on by their chinny-chin-chin?
is today the day for Independents and Libertarians? who gives a rats ass!
this thread is for todays election updates. the other thread has become too toxic. so start fresh here. use it if you want but remember to vote first!...i'll be sleeping all day.
crosses fingers
i'm warning you now. don't trust the early exit polling either way.
Good luck to you!!
I will be driving a 220 mile round trip to vote today. My home town is my polling area.
GO KINKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Today's NYT editorial:
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| November 5, 2006 Editorial The Difference Two Years Made On Tuesday, when this page runs the list of people it has endorsed for election, we will include no Republican Congressional candidates for the first time in our memory. Although Times editorials tend to agree with Democrats on national policy, we have proudly and consistently endorsed a long line of moderate Republicans, particularly for the House. Our only political loyalty is to making the two-party system as vital and responsible as possible. That is why things are different this year. To begin with, the Republican majority that has run the House � and for the most part, the Senate � during President Bush�s tenure has done a terrible job on the basics. Its tax-cutting-above-all-else has wrecked the budget, hobbled the middle class and endangered the long-term economy. It has refused to face up to global warming and done pathetically little about the country�s dependence on foreign oil. Republican leaders, particularly in the House, have developed toxic symptoms of an overconfident majority that has been too long in power. They methodically shut the opposition � and even the more moderate members of their own party � out of any role in the legislative process. Their only mission seems to be self-perpetuation. The current Republican majority managed to achieve that burned-out, brain-dead status in record time, and with a shocking disregard for the most minimal ethical standards. It was bad enough that a party that used to believe in fiscal austerity blew billions on pork-barrel projects. It is worse that many of the most expensive boondoggles were not even directed at their constituents, but at lobbyists who financed their campaigns and high-end lifestyles. That was already the situation in 2004, and even then this page endorsed Republicans who had shown a high commitment to ethics reform and a willingness to buck their party on important issues like the environment, civil liberties and women�s rights. For us, the breaking point came over the Republicans� attempt to undermine the fundamental checks and balances that have safeguarded American democracy since its inception. The fact that the White House, House and Senate are all controlled by one party is not a threat to the balance of powers, as long as everyone understands the roles assigned to each by the Constitution. But over the past two years, the White House has made it clear that it claims sweeping powers that go well beyond any acceptable limits. Rather than doing their duty to curb these excesses, the Congressional Republicans have dedicated themselves to removing restraints on the president�s ability to do whatever he wants. To paraphrase Tom DeLay, the Republicans feel you don�t need to have oversight hearings if your party is in control of everything. An administration convinced of its own perpetual rightness and a partisan Congress determined to deflect all criticism of the chief executive has been the recipe for what we live with today. Congress, in particular the House, has failed to ask probing questions about the war in Iraq or hold the president accountable for his catastrophic bungling of the occupation. It also has allowed Mr. Bush to avoid answering any questions about whether his administration cooked the intelligence on weapons of mass destruction. Then, it quietly agreed to close down the one agency that has been riding herd on crooked and inept American contractors who have botched everything from construction work to the security of weapons. After the revelations about the abuse, torture and illegal detentions in Abu Ghraib, Afghanistan and Guant�namo Bay, Congress shielded the Pentagon from any responsibility for the atrocities its policies allowed to happen. On the eve of the election, and without even a pretense at debate in the House, Congress granted the White House permission to hold hundreds of noncitizens in jail forever, without due process, even though many of them were clearly sent there in error. In the Senate, the path for this bill was cleared by a handful of Republicans who used their personal prestige and reputation for moderation to paper over the fact that the bill violates the Constitution in fundamental ways. Having acquiesced in the president�s campaign to dilute their own authority, lawmakers used this bill to further Mr. Bush�s goal of stripping the powers of the only remaining independent branch, the judiciary. This election is indeed about George W. Bush � and the Congressional majority�s insistence on protecting him from the consequences of his mistakes and misdeeds. Mr. Bush lost the popular vote in 2000 and proceeded to govern as if he had an enormous mandate. After he actually beat his opponent in 2004, he announced he now had real political capital and intended to spend it. We have seen the results. It is frightening to contemplate the new excesses he could concoct if he woke up next Wednesday and found that his party had maintained its hold on the House and Senate. |
And some valuable early numbers courtesy of Fox News:
Hold on to your hats folks! 
Good luck to both sides.
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| Polling places turn to paper ballots after glitches (AP) -- Programming errors and inexperience dealing with electronic voting machines frustrated poll workers in hundreds of precincts early Tuesday, delaying voters in Indiana, Ohio and Florida and leaving some with little choice but to use paper ballots instead. In Cleveland, voters rolled their eyes as election workers fumbled with new touchscreen machines that they couldn't get to start properly until about 10 minutes after polls opened. "We got five machines -- one of them's got to work," said Willette Scullank, a troubleshooter from the Cuyahoga County, Ohio, elections board. In Indiana's Marion County, about 175 of 914 precincts turned to paper because poll workers didn't know how to run the machines, said Marion County Clerk Doris Ann Sadler. She said it could take most of the day to fix all of the machine-related issues. Election officials in Delaware County, Indiana, planned to seek a court order to extend voting after an apparent computer error prevented voters from casting ballots in 75 precincts there. County Clerk Karen Wenger said the cards that activate the machines were programmed incorrectly. "We are working with precincts one-by-one over the telephone to get the problem fixed," Wenger said. With a third of Americans voting on new equipment and voters navigating new registration databases and changing ID rules, election watchdogs worried about polling problems even before the voting began. "This is largely what I expected," said Doug Chapin, director of Electionline.org, a nonpartisan group that tracks voting changes. "With as much change as we had, expecting things to go absolutely smoothly at the beginning of the day is too optimistic." A precinct in Orange Park, Florida, turned to paper ballots because of machine problems. Voting was delayed for 30 minutes or more at some Broward County precincts, where electronic ballots were mixed up and, in one case, a poll worker unintentionally wiped the electronic ballot activators. In Illinois, some voters found the new equipment cumbersome. "People seem to be very confused about how to use the new system," said Bryan Blank, a 33-year-old librarian from Oak Park, Illinois. "There was some early morning disarray." Human error blamed But voting equipment companies said they hadn't seen anything beyond the norm and blamed the problems largely on human error. "Any time there's more exposure to equipment, there are questions about setting up the equipment and things like that," said Ken Fields, a spokesman for Election Systems & Software Inc. "Overall, things are going very well." Some voters even liked the new ballots. "It was much clearer on what you were voting for and you made sure you absolutely were voting for what you wanted to vote for," said Cathy Schaefer, 59, of Cincinnati. Other problems had nothing to do with machines. A location in Columbus, Ohio, opened a few minutes late because of a break-in at the school where the precinct is located. Although turnout generally is lower in midterm elections, this year was the deadline for many of the election changes enacted in the wake of the Florida balloting chaos of 2000. The 2002 Help America Vote Act required or helped states to replace outdated voting equipment, establish voter registration databases, require better voter identification and provide provisional ballots if something goes wrong. Stakes are high Control of Congress is also at stake this year, and because individual congressional races are generally decided by fewer votes than presidential contests, any problems at the polls are more likely to affect the outcome. (Full story) According to Election Data Services, a Washington, D.C., consulting firm, 32 percent of registered voters were using equipment added since the 2004 elections. Nearly half of all voters were using optical-scan systems that ask them to fill in blanks, with ballots then fed into a computer. Thirty-eight percent were casting votes on touchscreen machines that have been criticized as susceptible to hackers. (Map: Counties with touch-screen voting machines) Just getting to the right polling place with all the right identification posed a challenge for some voters. Many states established voter registration databases for the first time, and many found problems as they tried to match driver's license and Social Security data with the voter rolls. Someone may have a middle initial or use "Jr." on one list but not the other, and data entry errors also occur. Although not required by federal law, some states passed new voter identification requirements, some calling for a government-issued photo ID rather than just a utility bill. Courts have struck down ID requirements in several states, but Missouri's chief elections official, Robin Carnahan, said she was still asked three times to show a photo ID, despite a court ruling striking the requirement down there. Some New Mexico voters complained they had received phone calls giving them incorrect information about where in vote. In one of the worst fiascoes, Maryland election officials forgot to send the cards primary voters needed to activate electronic machines at their polling places, and some voters had to cast provisional ballots on scraps of paper. Baltimore County election director Jacqueline McDaniel said the poll workers had a few problems on Tuesday -- one left part of the equipment in his car; another was looking in the wrong place for the electronic poll books. Several Florida counties stocked up ahead of the election with extra voting machines, paper ballots and poll workers on standby. Apart from the state's infamous chads in 2000, Florida voters have struggled with poorly trained poll workers and precincts opening late or closing early. Florida Secretary of State Sue Cobb said she didn't expect serious problems Tuesday. The Justice Department was deploying poll watchers at dozens of potential trouble spots nationwide. (Watch why the monitors are being deployed -- 1:59) "History has shown that the machines are far more accurate than paper so we're quite confident in it," Cobb said. "There is absolutely no reason to believe that there will be any security issues, any hacking going on." Find this article at: http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11...s.ap/index.html |
Its getting pretty interesting......
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| Originally posted by Renegade And some valuable early numbers courtesy of Fox News: |
Just remember. If you didn't get a receipt for your vote, you voted Republican.
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Hold on to your hats folks! Good luck to both sides. |
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| Originally posted by Shakka Just remember. If you didn't get a receipt for your vote, you voted Republican. |
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| Originally posted by pmoisse lol it's sad but could be true in all too many cases Should be interesting to watch, that's for sure Paul |
^^ good point, though I still think that the Democrat obstructors are in the minority, but it's still an equally shameful abuse of the process.
wow CNN is way, way, waaaayyyy out on a limb calling some of these early based on exit polls. just sayin.
yeah, Corker's daughters are hot...sooo hot.
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| Originally posted by Q5echo wow CNN is way, way, waaaayyyy out on a limb calling some of these early based on exit polls. just sayin. |
why do they use those machines in america? i dont get it. theyre nothing but trouble. shit, we have a result in a night and we have a preferential voting system. WAY more compicated. this first-past-the-post shit should be easy to count.
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Sen House Gov Dems: 48 221 26 Reps: 52 214 24 D+/-: +3 +18 +4 |
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| Originally posted by josh4 Howard Dean told voters, even if the Dems win, don't expect much because theres not a lot they can do to change things. Brilliant. |
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| Originally posted by Q5echo did you not see that coming? what else can the Dems possibly do but obstruct more judges, raise taxes and cut funding to the war? really, tell me what the Dems will do now or should do now. seriously. |
Ah-nold gets reelected in Cali
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| Originally posted by josh4 According to HuffPost, Howard Dean told voters, even if the Dems win, don't expect much because theres not a lot they can do to change things. Brilliant. |
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| Originally posted by occrider Institute fiscal responsbility by either raising taxes or cutting spending. You really can't get any worse than the previous rubber stamp congress/administration*. |
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| Originally posted by Q5echo right, cutting spending |
. I mean really there is no defense of republicans on fiscal responsiblity ... absolutely none. They have been the worst kinds of "democrats" those who tax and spend whilst forgetting to tax.
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