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Posted by Pett on Nov-08-2006 07:21:

e is irrational

If e were rational, then e = n/m for some integers m, n. So then 1/e = m/n. But the series expansion for 1/e is
1/e = 1 - 1/1! + 1/2! - 1/3! + ...

Call the first n terms of this alternating series S(n). How good is this approximation to e? Well, the error is bounded by the next term of the alternating series:
0 < | 1/e - S(n) | = | m/n - S(n)| < 1/(n+1)!

But multiplying through by n!, you will see that
0 < | integer - integer | < 1/(n+1) < 1.
But there is no integer strictly between 0 and 1, so this is a contradiction; e must be irrational.


Posted by RJT on Nov-08-2006 07:23:

**Insert rational e-pill joke here**


Posted by Marc Summers on Nov-08-2006 07:23:

Pi > e

n00b


Posted by idoru on Nov-08-2006 07:24:

I finished the first sentence and wanted to shoot myself. I'm not even joking, my stress level just shot through the roof. God, I hate math.


Posted by RJT on Nov-08-2006 07:24:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
I finished the first sentence and wanted to shoot myself.


You too?


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-08-2006 08:35:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
I finished the first sentence and wanted to shoot you in the face. I'm not even joking, my stress level just shot through the roof. God, I hate your post.


First time I've ever done this, but...

FIXED.


Posted by Nsonic on Nov-08-2006 11:05:

ecstacy is a number?

EDIT>
e
quote:
It is known that e is irrational (proof)


i see..


Posted by Subey on Nov-08-2006 20:48:

Re: e is irrational

quote:
Originally posted by Pett
If e were rational, then e = n/m for some integers m, n. So then 1/e = m/n. But the series expansion for 1/e is
1/e = 1 - 1/1! + 1/2! - 1/3! + ...

Call the first n terms of this alternating series S(n). How good is this approximation to e? Well, the error is bounded by the next term of the alternating series:
0 < | 1/e - S(n) | = | m/n - S(n)| < 1/(n+1)!

But multiplying through by n!, you will see that
0 < | integer - integer | < 1/(n+1) < 1.
But there is no integer strictly between 0 and 1, so this is a contradiction; e must be irrational.


Of course i'm going to use the colour red as an example. It's at the end of the spectrum so the rational of clipping it doesn't require a significant leap to link the two data points into a single cohesive logical unit.

Toronto! Ya give em the CN tower and they mistake it for the Peace Tower.


Posted by Rinster on Nov-08-2006 20:50:

fuck that. E is my friend.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-08-2006 21:34:

E = MC^2

Two Mc's equals E. E MC's. Yo.


Posted by Rinster on Nov-08-2006 21:35:

1+1=4?


Posted by Krypton on Nov-08-2006 21:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Bidor
1+1=4?


not even imaginary. just wrong.


Posted by DrunkenMaster16 on Nov-08-2006 21:38:

[Mr. Mackey voice]Drugs are bad, mmmkay!?! [/Mr.Mackey voice]

honestly im glad its 420, otherwise id have a headache.


Posted by Rinster on Nov-08-2006 21:39:

i hate maths


Posted by Jarvmeister on Nov-08-2006 21:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
First time I've ever done this, but...

FIXED.


Right, I've seen this all over the place, WTF does FIXED mean in response to a statement?

Sorry to be thick but I've always wondered.

Jarv


Posted by DrunkenMaster16 on Nov-08-2006 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
Right, First time im doing this but. Its basically when someone post something, it gets quoted and edited for either humor or correctness.

Sorry to be thick but I've always wondered.

Jarv


FIXED


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-08-2006 21:59:

lol


Posted by Jarvmeister on Nov-08-2006 22:20:

I must be even thicker than I thought. I read DrunkenMasters reply about 5 times, before I realised what he'd done!

Haha!

I now feel like one of the gang.


Posted by Marc Summers on Nov-08-2006 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
I now feel like one of the gang.


You can be the token black kid. Mind if we call you Stymie?


Posted by Jarvmeister on Nov-08-2006 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
You can be the token black kid. Mind if we call you Stymie?


Call me what you want - I just want to be included!


Posted by KilldaDJ on Nov-08-2006 22:23:

e is good.

MCs are gay.

and ur all going to die from aids.

lol??



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