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Rotary Vs. Linear my 2 cents

well i guess its been a little over a year since i converted my PCV-275 to rotary. and tonight, I changed it back for the first time to the linear faders.

Rotary:
Pros: Smoother transitions and more accurate control.
Cons: Slow and no way to hit the faders quick or sharp.

Linear:
Pros: More comfortable for most DJs. Allow for quick throws and snaps during mixes.
Cons: More shaky transitions, not as accurate.

So as its been said before so many times, its all about personal preference. For me, having the rotaries was a nice change and definitely got me more comfortable on a rotary mixer. However, my personal style (hard and techy) the linear faders just work better. I can snap those faders up and really slam 'em around to get the desired effect in my mixes.

I would say that for Djs who play more progressive stuff, rotaries are probably the method of choice. But for me, i think i'm gonna stick with linears from now on.

and on a side note: i also disabled my crossfader by simply unplugging it. i hated that damn thing and it always fucked with me during mixes. i wasnt sure if i'd get audio without it plugged in, but i do.

The pcv-275 has a rotary kit?

but also depends on what genre your spinning...dnb would be horrible with rotaries imo...

I want to try the rotaries for the DJM3000, but pioneer doesn't carry them here anymore. I figured it would be a reasonably cheap way to see if i liked rotaries, but not at the price of getting them from america.

i've heard a lot of people didn't like that kit for the 3000, so maybe someone here would care to sell their?

i use the 3000 rotary at this club i spin at sometimes. i hate it. they're not completely smooth. tbh, that's the only rotary i've ever used, but given i mix tech house, and sometimes use 3 decks, rotary = nono. not to mention i'm trying to learn some turntablism.

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Originally posted by Inertia i use the 3000 rotary at this club i spin at sometimes. i hate it. they're not completely smooth. tbh, that's the only rotary i've ever used, but given i mix tech house, and sometimes use 3 decks, rotary = nono. not to mention i'm trying to learn some turntablism.

why would 3 deck + rotary = bad news? seems opposite to me

when i say 3 decks, i mean it in the techno sense. sometimes i need way more sharpness than a rotary can give.

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Originally posted by Inertia when i say 3 decks, i mean it in the techno sense. sometimes i need way more sharpness than a rotary can give.

I find rotary more accurate and easier to have things at different volumes for layering techier jams...


But then again, to each his/her own.

probably more accurate, but nowhere near as agile. for instance (and not that i can do THAT) rotary would make this individual's life a living hell:

Jeff Milligan aka Algorithm

EDIT: damn, why can't i embed?

ah well, here's the link, short but illustrates it nicely:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ffxeCs578Kg

That is bad ass. Sure you could do that in Ableton but no way would it look as cool.

i don't think Ableton controllers are developped enough to allow such agility for bringing a channel in and out. even if you just had to press buttons for it, you don't have that precision and speed that you do when you slam faders up and down. i don't think you could, unless you route it to a mixer, which then you would still need linear faders and it would be impossible on rotary

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Originally posted by Inertia probably more accurate, but nowhere near as agile. for instance (and not that i can do THAT) rotary would make this individual's life a living hell: Jeff Milligan aka Algorithm EDIT: damn, why can't i embed? ah well, here's the link, short but illustrates it nicely: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ffxeCs578Kg

Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is a DJ.

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Originally posted by idoru Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is a DJ.

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Originally posted by Wisnia The pcv-275 has a rotary kit?

yeah, wanna buy one? LOL

i totally agree that certain genres just NEED linear faders. however, many trance, house and progressive DJs prefer a rotary. I just wanted to try both (which is part of the reason i bought the 275) and find out for sure which one worked better for me.

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Originally posted by Inertia Jeff Milligan aka Algorithm EDIT: damn, why can't i embed? ah well, here's the link, short but illustrates it nicely: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ffxeCs578Kg

good stuff. he's a live sequencer

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Originally posted by Vero yeah, wanna buy one? LOL i totally agree that certain genres just NEED linear faders. however, many trance, house and progressive DJs prefer a rotary. I just wanted to try both (which is part of the reason i bought the 275) and find out for sure which one worked better for me.

YA I DO.

i wonder if unplugging the crossfader will work on my pcv-175 too. i hate it that you can't turn it off.
i bought the rotart kit for my mixer too and i've never looked back since. i pretty much hate faders, i don't like the feel of them at all.

but yeah, maybe i'll try unplugging that crossfader.

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Originally posted by skip i wonder if unplugging the crossfader will work on my pcv-175 too. i hate it that you can't turn it off. i bought the rotart kit for my mixer too and i've never looked back since. i pretty much hate faders, i don't like the feel of them at all. but yeah, maybe i'll try unplugging that crossfader.

if they used the same chassis on the 275 as they did on the 175, the easiest way to do it is to remove the bottom pannel, you done need to unscrew the feet, just the 8 screws around the perimeter. then its just like the plugs for the channel fader. its easier than the rotary conversion.

of course just make sure its unplugged and you have grounded yourself before going in there.

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Originally posted by skip i wonder if unplugging the crossfader will work on my pcv-175 too. i hate it that you can't turn it off. i bought the rotart kit for my mixer too and i've never looked back since. i pretty much hate faders, i don't like the feel of them at all. but yeah, maybe i'll try unplugging that crossfader.

From my experience, disconnecting the Crossfader boosts the output of the mixer (Rane, Gemini)

I'm using an El-Cheapo Gemini Rotary and, find the Crossfader comes in handy when you need a sharp response where rotaries fail.

So the Rotary/Crossfader combo gives you the best of both worlds, if you spin other types of music than Deep House or Trance.

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Originally posted by Inertia probably more accurate, but nowhere near as agile. for instance (and not that i can do THAT) rotary would make this individual's life a living hell: Jeff Milligan aka Algorithm EDIT: damn, why can't i embed? ah well, here's the link, short but illustrates it nicely: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ffxeCs578Kg

Meh the tracks are good but he's more than a bit ADD.

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Originally posted by i got big pants but also depends on what genre your spinning...dnb would be horrible with rotaries imo...

DnB would be horrible on any mixer imo!

Jarv

i like omni is talking about... my dream mixer would be one with linear channel faders, with a rotary option above or below each channel.

Use your gains

Having a rotary such as a Xone 92 or Pio 800, you can still use the crossfader for cuts.

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Originally posted by ClearVision i like omni is talking about... my dream mixer would be one with linear channel faders, with a rotary option above or below each channel.

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Originally posted by Zild Meh the tracks are good but he's more than a bit ADD.

don't reall get what you mean here

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Originally posted by Inertia don't reall get what you mean here

It's like a kid who didn't take his Ritalin masturbating with the faders.

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