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More violence in clubland
Dallas & I drove past the yellow tape last night on the way home, and knew something very bad had happened. Cops were EVERYWHERE down there. I tell you, I don't even like driving thru clubland on a weekend, let alone, want to go out to a club there anymore, I'm afraid of stray bullets, I tell ya.
Officer stabbed in club district brawl
Nov. 12, 2006. 08:10 AM
JOSH WINGROVE
STAFF REPORTER
Five men, including one police officer, were taken to hospital with stab wounds after an early-morning fight in Toronto�s club district.
Police responded to a Parkway parking lot on the southwest corner of Adelaide and John Sts. shortly after 2:30 a.m. The officer had been flagged down to intervene in a fight when he was stabbed, Toronto police Duty Desk Sgt. Sean Lenfesty said.
Ambulance crews rushed the officer to St. Michael�s hospital with stab wounds to the head. The officer "sustained the most minor injuries" of all the victims, Toronto Ambulance duty officer Connie Christie said.
Three others were taken to St. Michael�s with serious stab wounds, including one who suffered serious injuries to his neck, Lenfesty said.
A fifth was taken to Toronto Western Hospital with "some nasty gash wounds to his cheek," Christie said.
One 22-year-old male suspect was taken into custody at the scene. A second suspect was later apprehended nearby.
Police roped off the parking lot, closing in about two-dozen vehicles. Officers took the names and information of drivers leaving the area.
The incident was the third major outburst of violence this weekend in Toronto�s downtown. Gunfire rang out the night before when four people were shot outside Crystalroom Nightclub around 3:10 a.m. Saturday morning.
One victim was hit twice in the back, while three others sustained more superficial wounds to arms and legs. Each victim remains in stable condition. Police are still looking for suspects in the shooting.
Later Saturday afternoon, a man was stabbed in the head at the Toronto Reference Library, on Yonge St. just North of Bloor St., around 2:30 p.m. An off-duty police officer made an arrest with the help of bystanders in the attack.
Anyone with information about any of the incidents is encouraged to contact Toronto police at 416-808-5200 or Crime Stoppers at 416-222-TIPS (8477).
were these more laong the lines of gangster clubs...cuz that would explain alot
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| Originally posted by darouge11 were these more laong the lines of gangster clubs...cuz that would explain alot |
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| Originally posted by tatgirl No, the stabbing incident occurred in a parking lot, and while I have never been to Crystal Room, I don't believe its a 'gangster club'. |
I was driving around the area last night but not that close at about 2:30 am. Was on Spadina and King area lotta cars of people just leaving really, but didn't know this happened, how terrible.
that really freaks me out, especially since I have to walk everywhere downtown. maybe I'll start taking cabs/streetcars more often...
It's funny how a lot of people on this site, and in general like to draw a dividing line with an air of superiority between dance clubs and hip-hop ones.
What you fail to grasp is that those big people dressed all in black providing security, and that skinny sketchbag you get your drugs from, are in the very least connected to organized crime, and @ worst have their own guns and knives on them, and get them in quite easily because they are employees of the club.
I've seen guns in every major EDM club over the years, often while in the offices or hanging out with the employees and regulars.
There is a reason some people wear a jacket in a sweaty place, and it ain't fashion.
I'm not defending this happening, and I do believe we should care about what's going on, but it surprises me how surprised some people in the posts are when hearing about these things. We live in the 4th or 5th (can't remember exactly) biggest city in North America. We have millions of people in the city and plenty more tourists coming in every day. No matter how nice of a reputation we have historically, it's just nearly impossible with that amount of people NOT to have the odd person do something ridiculous.
willing to bet it was a fine hip hop establisment LOL
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| Originally posted by crazedcanuck It's funny how a lot of people on this site, and in general like to draw a dividing line with an air of superiority between dance clubs and hip-hop ones. What you fail to grasp is that those big people dressed all in black providing security, and that skinny sketchbag you get your drugs from, are in the very least connected to organized crime, and @ worst have their own guns and knives on them, and get them in quite easily because they are employees of the club. I've seen guns in every major EDM club over the years, often while in the offices or hanging out with the employees and regulars. There is a reason some people wear a jacket in a sweaty place, and it ain't fashion. |
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| Originally posted by crazedcanuck It's funny how a lot of people on this site, and in general like to draw a dividing line with an air of superiority between dance clubs and hip-hop ones. What you fail to grasp is that those big people dressed all in black providing security, and that skinny sketchbag you get your drugs from, are in the very least connected to organized crime, and @ worst have their own guns and knives on them, and get them in quite easily because they are employees of the club. I've seen guns in every major EDM club over the years, often while in the offices or hanging out with the employees and regulars. There is a reason some people wear a jacket in a sweaty place, and it ain't fashion. |
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| Originally posted by crazedcanuck It's funny how a lot of people on this site, and in general like to draw a dividing line with an air of superiority between dance clubs and hip-hop ones. What you fail to grasp is that those big people dressed all in black providing security, and that skinny sketchbag you get your drugs from, are in the very least connected to organized crime, and @ worst have their own guns and knives on them, and get them in quite easily because they are employees of the club. I've seen guns in every major EDM club over the years, often while in the offices or hanging out with the employees and regulars. There is a reason some people wear a jacket in a sweaty place, and it ain't fashion. |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 willing to bet it was a fine hip hop establisment LOL |
im not talking about race here. The white thug wannabes are just as guilty. But its the music the brings out people with that sort of mentality. Spin Cat was a rare incident especially considering how many parties were going on back then. And it was also the hole of the holes. The hip hop incidents happening now are at some pretty mainstream places.
in the 90s you RARELY if ever heard about shootings downtown. They were always in scarborough and rexdale. What changed at the turn of the century downtown? Hmmmm id have to say music format.
Personally I hate this "gino" reference. It was made up for Italians from the previous generations dub which was "guido". 90% of the time ppl who label ppl "ginos" are kids with spikey hair who are arabic or middle eastern which has nothing to do with Italy. Todays "ginos" or "vaginos" lol need a new name, too many times are their MangiaCakes taking an already bad stereotype and making us look worse. Its like branding a group of dark Indians who commit crimes "black". Its just a pissoff how certain cultures or races play off another who are totally unrelated and are a digrace and wananbes in the worst sense.
Sorry I had to
Vent
I do agree though at EDM clubs people are carrying weapons, why? Drugs are a cash business, and a territoral one and we all know that the bouncers and/or management get a cut or perks for letting the club dealer set up shop inside. I believe the mindset here is "just in case", where in a hip hop club it would be "If such and such happens I'm going to", almost looking for something.
There is a corealation between music and attitude in all music, hip hop promotes good times, going out on a weekend and partying like we all want to do, and well "gangsta rap" is just that, no need to sugar coat it in one song you can smack 80 bitches and kill 1000 fools.EDM scene has its shit too, more along the lines of drug use and your cornocpoia of people, from all backrounds,ethnic,sexual or whatever, which isn't bad to some but kind of too much for others.
Once again its not black people at these clubs or any race in particular theres fucked up people from all races and colors its the seeds that are planted in a corrupt mind, mixed with a little intoxicant add a gangsta rap tune and it could spell violence.
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 im not talking about race here. The white thug wannabes are just as guilty. But its the music the brings out people with that sort of mentality. Spin Cat was a rare incident especially considering how many parties were going on back then. And it was also the hole of the holes. The hip hop incidents happening now are at some pretty mainstream places. in the 90s you RARELY if ever heard about shootings downtown. They were always in scarborough and rexdale. What changed at the turn of the century downtown? Hmmmm id have to say music format. |
Honestly even in parking lot situations the best thing I know to do is just walk away...for many reasons, even if you have more people or may seem like you could crush, the guys instigating, you really don't know whose carrying what, or who these guys are..and ultimatley in these type of situations its never worth it, let the animals act like animals.
Re: More violence in clubland
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| Originally posted by tatgirl |
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| Originally posted by capo tutti di Personally I hate this "gino" reference. It was made up for Italians from the previous generations dub which was "guido". 90% of the time ppl who label ppl "ginos" are kids with spikey hair who are arabic or middle eastern which has nothing to do with Italy. Todays "ginos" or "vaginos" lol need a new name, too many times are their MangiaCakes taking an already bad stereotype and making us look worse. Its like branding a group of dark Indians who commit crimes "black". Its just a pissoff how certain cultures or races play off another who are totally unrelated and are a digrace and wananbes in the worst sense. Sorry I had to Vent I do agree though at EDM clubs people are carrying weapons, why? Drugs are a cash business, and a territoral one and we all know that the bouncers and/or management get a cut or perks for letting the club dealer set up shop inside. I believe the mindset here is "just in case", where in a hip hop club it would be "If such and such happens I'm going to", almost looking for something. There is a corealation between music and attitude in all music, hip hop promotes good times, going out on a weekend and partying like we all want to do, and well "gangsta rap" is just that, no need to sugar coat it in one song you can smack 80 bitches and kill 1000 fools.EDM scene has its shit too, more along the lines of drug use and your cornocpoia of people, from all backrounds,ethnic,sexual or whatever, which isn't bad to some but kind of too much for others. Once again its not black people at these clubs or any race in particular theres fucked up people from all races and colors its the seeds that are planted in a corrupt mind, mixed with a little intoxicant add a gangsta rap tune and it could spell violence. |
Hey sorry man your right with the mangiacake thing, that true I would actually only use it against someone literally taking the culture and shitting on it like the segment of clowns listed in my above post does, and yes i agree I'm a Canadian first!
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| Originally posted by capo tutti di Hey sorry man your right with the mangiacake thing, that true I would actually only use it against someone literally taking the culture and shitting on it like the segment of clowns listed in my above post does, and yes i agree I'm a Canadian first! |
ohhhhhhhh lol ya I'll take that one on the arm, but calling me a gino is like calling dicaprio a gino! its non applicable lol
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| Originally posted by SPANIARD I'm not defending this happening, and I do believe we should care about what's going on, but it surprises me how surprised some people in the posts are when hearing about these things. We live in the 4th or 5th (can't remember exactly) biggest city in North America. We have millions of people in the city and plenty more tourists coming in every day. No matter how nice of a reputation we have historically, it's just nearly impossible with that amount of people NOT to have the odd person do something ridiculous. |
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| Originally posted by ItalianPoiSon I'VE BEEN SAYIN THIS FOR YEARS.......FINALY MORE PPL = MORE POLICE IT ONLY MAKES SENSE |
Remember back in the day when real men settled it with a dance off before there was "gangsta lean" there was a "b-boy" stance...fuck guns.
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