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Ok here's my problem. Over the last few years i did large amounts of coke, e, dxm, and large doses of 2c-e and 5-meo-amt. These have left me with chronic vision problems (i.e. constant trailing, movement of patterned surfaces, etc.). These have gotten less over the last 4 months as i stay sober. Recently, however, i have had problems with fairly constant jaw clenching. Does anybody know of anything to do to relieve this, or do i just have to deal with it?

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Originally posted by Enigmatic XTC Ok here's my problem. Over the last few years i did large amounts of coke, e, dxm, and large doses of 2c-e and 5-meo-amt. These have left me with chronic vision problems (i.e. constant trailing, movement of patterned surfaces, etc.). These have gotten less over the last 4 months as i stay sober. Recently, however, i have had problems with fairly constant jaw clenching. Does anybody know of anything to do to relieve this, or do i just have to deal with it?

I lol at you, I really do.
Reapeth whateth youeth soweth.

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Originally posted by sakabatou I lol at you, I really do. Reapeth whateth youeth soweth.

thats cool. i do too. its just annoying,

start taking magnesium tablets. Its good for the bones and joints.

use a mouth guard when you're not in a social situation until the problem abates. Clenching your teeth is horrible for them >.>

Yes that's wildly gay but so are dentures on a 30 year old.

sounds lik TMJ i got a touch of it too

learn more here

and here

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Originally posted by Enigmatic XTC thats cool. i do too. its just annoying,

i have a weird "tick" lol with my jaw too. i dont realize i'm doing it, but i guess i move my bottom jaw sometimes. i like how it pops my ears. i also wiggle my nostrils a lot. it's kind of embarrassing and sometimes i really can't help it. it's literally like some kind of weird OCD thing i can't control. it's hard to.

Senor Bush has the ticking of the bottom jaw also. When hes giving speeches its very visible.

ive been told to take calcium before rolling and shit.. wish someone told me that before this weekend lol.. speed is bad, and i think one of my teeth has become a little loose becuase ive been clenching my jaws and grinding my teeth for about 50 hrs :/

Seek help from a medical professional.

I know a guy who has permanent muscle twitching, from doing so much G.




P.S. Man, you're gonna have Alzheimer's!

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Originally posted by dj_alfi ive been told to take calcium before rolling and shit.. wish someone told me that before this weekend lol.. speed is bad, and i think one of my teeth has become a little loose becuase ive been clenching my jaws and grinding my teeth for about 50 hrs :/

calcium is for bones, maybe you confused magnesium w/calcium. Pretty sure it's magnesium tablets that will help you with the jaw clenching. its also nice to grab some vit c and 5htp before you go out heavy on x, usually 2-3hours before you go out.

A little bit of bruxism is normal. I normally have some, on caffeine it goes crazy. Maybe you just didn't notice yours before.

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Originally posted by jennypie P.S. Man, you're gonna have Alzheimer's!

i already have it. lol


oh and i don't think my ticks are drug related. i've been doing the nose thing since i was little. and the jaw thing is just to pop my ears or get that feeling of popping my ears.

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Originally posted by Fast Turtle A little bit of bruxism is normal. I normally have some, on caffeine it goes crazy. Maybe you just didn't notice yours before.

That is a good point. Since i quit doing drugs, i started drinking a lot more caffeine. Probly close to a half gallon of mountain dew or equivalent each day. That probably has a lot to do with it. Thanks, i hadnt thought about that.

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Originally posted by kid nyce calcium is for bones, maybe you confused magnesium w/calcium. Pretty sure it's magnesium tablets that will help you with the jaw clenching. its also nice to grab some vit c and 5htp before you go out heavy on x, usually 2-3hours before you go out.

well, i was pretty f'd in the a, so prolly just my memory lol :P

ive heard of 5htp, but i thought it was for rebulidng the serotonin levels up after a trip...

anyhoo, will magnesium help for liek coke and speed as well?

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Originally posted by dj_alfi well, i was pretty f'd in the a, so prolly just my memory lol :P ive heard of 5htp, but i thought it was for rebulidng the serotonin levels up after a trip... anyhoo, will magnesium help for liek coke and speed as well?

some say preloading is good at helping you maintain your seratonin levels, so boosting prior to expending will help you retain normal levels where as depleating them and then boosting them back up isn't all that healthy. Either way preloading or just taking it after, kinda gives me an irky feeling, i feel like i've ingested a pill buffet.

dont do speed, crystal, glass, meth, any of those, not my thing but I've done it before. No experience with jaw clenching in either blow or the above, the only symptom I've heard is not being able to sleep and thats solved by vicodin, perks, xanax, or 4 benadryls.

wtf....

I can't believe you are actually giving him solutions???

how about cutting down on all this uve been doing....

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Originally posted by adi26 wtf.... I can't believe you are actually giving him solutions??? how about cutting down on all this uve been doing....

I quit 4 months ago. I only asked because this has been a persistent problem.

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some say preloading is good at helping you maintain your seratonin levels, so boosting prior to expending will help you retain normal levels where as depleating them and then boosting them back up isn't all that healthy. Either way preloading or just taking it after, kinda gives me an irky feeling, i feel like i've ingested a pill buffet. dont do speed, crystal, glass, meth, any of those, not my thing but I've done it before. No experience with jaw clenching in either blow or the above, the only symptom I've heard is not being able to sleep and thats solved by vicodin, perks, xanax, or 4 benadryls.

You should take 5HTP afterwards but not beforehand due to MDMA's damage to tryptophan hydroxylase...but that's even kind of backwards. If you really want to prevent the damage caused by MDMA (or meth, speed, etc), take strong antioxidants beforehand (idebenone, chocolate, r-ALA).

If you can't sleep, there's probably speed in your pills. If you don't want to do speed, don't do pills.

E is a form of speed (meth actually). MethylenedioxyMETHAMPHETAMINE

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Originally posted by Enigmatic XTC E is a form of speed (meth actually). MethylenedioxyMETHAMPHETAMINE

Yeah, but the receptor bindings are very different... Amphetamine mostly modulates dopamine release, methamphetamine releases both serotonin and dopamine but more dopamine than serotonin, and MDMA mostly releases serotonin. The neurotoxicity is induced in all of them by a similar mechanism, though.

Qualitatively they are all very different experiences.

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Originally posted by kid nyce dont do speed, crystal, glass, meth, any of those, not my thing but I've done it before. No experience with jaw clenching in either blow or the above, the only symptom I've heard is not being able to sleep and thats solved by vicodin, perks, xanax, or 4 benadryls.

ill stay away from the methamph's at least hehe.. me and my mate did amphetamine as a warmup to the party we were going to, not knowing that our other mate that was fixing us up with e had fucked it up and sold everythign he had and well, since e is really scarce (been a few local busts+that factory in asia) its kinda hard to get, and im smart enough to get from ppl i know. kinda hard going to sleep , plus i was liek clenching or grinding my teeth all the time, sometimes even chewing nonexisting gum lol :P


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i just remembered i was humming to this old hard house track most of time where i wasnt in contact with music.. it has these vocals that go "The DJ's took pills to stay awake
and play for seven days." i think its from a poem by jim morrison of the doors

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Originally posted by Fast Turtle Yeah, but the receptor bindings are very different... Amphetamine mostly modulates dopamine release, methamphetamine releases both serotonin and dopamine but more dopamine than serotonin, and MDMA mostly releases serotonin. The neurotoxicity is induced in all of them by a similar mechanism, though. Qualitatively they are all very different experiences.

Different experiences, yes. But similar physical reactions in the body.

i dont like that 5 HTP stuff. i bought some from GNC a while ago, and i took it before bed, and i was antsy the whole night. tossing and turning. it made me tired, but i was still antsy. it was like a very mild coke comedown

and i tried to give it a shot several more times...same effect.

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