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Posted by starsearcher on Nov-13-2006 21:28:

Read This! So apparently the MS Zune player is released in 6 hours...

Zune Launch Concerts Nov 13
TI - Atlanta Full Atlanta Coverage by Zune Scene
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - LA
Richie Spice - Miami
Lupe Fiasco - Chicago
Secret Machines - Seattle
Queens of the Stone Age - NY

http://www.zunescene.com/

At least according to the timer on the site...

http://www.zune.net/en-US/


Posted by English Rachel on Nov-13-2006 21:34:

I WANT ONE!!!

AND I want it in brown....

I hope Santa reads TA


Posted by starsearcher on Nov-13-2006 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by English Rachel
I WANT ONE!!!

AND I want it in brown....

I hope Santa reads TA


lol... I wonder who your Santa is

I'd still get an iPod tho...oh wait, already have one - but it's old.


Posted by King Luis on Nov-13-2006 21:40:

i'd consider getting it but:
1. i have an ipod
2. it would have to work with my alpine deck like my ipod does
3. i'm currently in saving money mode.


Posted by English Rachel on Nov-13-2006 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
lol... I wonder who your Santa is

I'd still get an iPod tho...oh wait, already have one - but it's old.


My mummy is my santa and I have already had my Christmas pressies in the form of being spoilt rotten whilst she was here... And the fact that she let me off a few hundred quid

So I guess if there isn't a real santa, I ain't getting a zune.


Posted by starsearcher on Nov-14-2006 05:34:

quote:
Originally posted by King Luis
i'd consider getting it but:
1. i have an ipod
2. it would have to work with my alpine deck like my ipod does
3. i'm currently in saving money mode.


Wow you're exactly in the same boat as me hahaha...

1) iPod, 2) Alpine deck with iPod integration, 3) saving!


Posted by Abercrombie on Nov-14-2006 05:49:

Is it good for pr0n?


Posted by exstasie on Nov-14-2006 05:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Is it good for pr0n?


PSP is the Pr0n king!


Posted by VERTiG0 on Nov-14-2006 05:58:

You won't be getting any Zunes until 2007, as there is no Canadian release date set as of now.

I don't think I'd buy an HDD based player anymore. Too bulky.

Sandisk Sansa E280 or Meizu M6 Miniplayer for me.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Nov-14-2006 06:00:

{double post, aka. I suck at the internet}


Posted by Shade on Nov-14-2006 06:05:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
You won't be getting any Zunes until 2007, as there is no Canadian release date set as of now.

I don't think I'd buy an HDD based player anymore. Too bulky.

Sandisk Sansa E280 or Meizu M6 Miniplayer for me.



http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...73&Sku=M17-4160


Posted by VERTiG0 on Nov-14-2006 06:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Shade

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...73&Sku=M17-4160


Tigerdirect is an American based company, apparently they aren't officially released by Microsoft in Canada though. I saw that earlier and was confused. If you bought one now, you wouldn't be able to use the Zune Marketplace, which is really the whole thing behind the Zune. Without it, the Zune essentially sucks, and is nothing more than another PMP.

quote:
In a recently posted article on Canada.com, Peter Wilson discussed the Zune release in Canada. The reason the Zune will not be released immediately in Canada is due to the fact that the music service (Zune Marketplace) has not been established in Canada. The article reports that the Zune will likely not be available in Canada until at least Spring of 2007.


Posted by Shade on Nov-14-2006 06:08:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Tigerdirect is an American based company, apparently they aren't officially released by Microsoft in Canada though. I saw that earlier and was confused.


Ah ok... The weird thing I find is that unlike CanadaComputers and the like; TigerDirect warranties tend to pertain to the Canadian manufacturer location rather than the American - any idea?


Posted by VERTiG0 on Nov-14-2006 06:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Shade
Ah ok... The weird thing I find is that unlike CanadaComputers and the like; TigerDirect warranties tend to pertain to the Canadian manufacturer location rather than the American - any idea?


Absolutely no idea, that's a wierd one too. But I would just like to say that I friggin love CanadaComputers.


Posted by Shade on Nov-14-2006 06:11:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Absolutely no idea, that's a wierd one too. But I would just like to say that I friggin love CanadaComputers.


+1

..though their customer service (if something goes wrong) - in some stores - could be kinder


Posted by VERTiG0 on Nov-14-2006 06:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Shade
+1

..though their customer service (if something goes wrong) - in some stores - could be kinder


Haven't had to deal with that, I void the warranty of pretty much everything I buy within 5 minutes.


Posted by Shade on Nov-14-2006 06:48:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Haven't had to deal with that, I void the warranty of pretty much everything I buy within 5 minutes.


Hahaha me too - but the first thing I bought from them was DOA and I had to argue for a little while


Posted by iloop on Nov-14-2006 08:43:

sounds great, cant wait for the zune marketplace to launch our music


Posted by Revival160 on Nov-14-2006 14:54:

The big downside with the Zune is that aside from music you have in MP3 format, nothing aside from what you buy at the Zune Marketplace will play on it.

So if you've bought anything at iTunes or any other online retailer (including the MSN music store), you'll have to convert it to MP3 before you can play it on the Zune.

I don't know why manufacturers continue to push unfriendly DRM models onto consumers.


Posted by Abercrombie on Nov-14-2006 15:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Shade
Ah ok... The weird thing I find is that unlike CanadaComputers and the like; TigerDirect warranties tend to pertain to the Canadian manufacturer location rather than the American - any idea?


I've been in the business for 14 years.

Dealers who provide Canadian manufacturer warranties are AUTHORIZED dealers. Authorized dealers have full support and training from the manufacturers to sell their product in Canada. Products purchased from authorized dealers, in the even there is a warranty issue, can be taken to ANY authorized service centre or depot in Canada.

Grey Market Dealers, a.k.a. unauthorized dealers, acquire their product through unauthorized wholesalers, liquidators, importers, bank foreclosures, auctions, product meant for manufacture rather than retail sales, and product meant to be destined for other countries made for that country's quality standards. Grey market product has absolutely no support from the manufacturers in Canada.

Grey markey product sells for less, and is a good buy if you know what you are doing and understand the risks, or have trust in and support from your dealer.

Authorized product is more expensive, but quality and peace of mind comes with it.

You get what you pay for. You decide.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Nov-14-2006 15:37:

quote:
Originally posted by English Rachel
I WANT ONE!!!

AND I want it in brown....

I hope Santa reads TA


Hahaha ^5 that would be awesome eh rach? lol


Posted by VERTiG0 on Nov-14-2006 16:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Revival160
The big downside with the Zune is that aside from music you have in MP3 format, nothing aside from what you buy at the Zune Marketplace will play on it.

So if you've bought anything at iTunes or any other online retailer (including the MSN music store), you'll have to convert it to MP3 before you can play it on the Zune.

I don't know why manufacturers continue to push unfriendly DRM models onto consumers.


Meh, big deal. There's a shitload of programs out there to decrypt iTunes et al's DRM stuff and turn the files into regular .mp3 format.

That said, the iTunes Music Store has the same problem as the Zune Marketplace. You can only play the files on an iPod, nothing else. Unless you know of this other stuff, which most people do not.


Posted by starsearcher on Nov-14-2006 16:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Revival160
I don't know why manufacturers continue to push unfriendly DRM models onto consumers.


Because that's the only way they can make money and remain legal. All the manufacturers will now also try and re-do what Apple did so successfully - create their own system.


Posted by Revival160 on Nov-14-2006 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
Because that's the only way they can make money and remain legal. All the manufacturers will now also try and re-do what Apple did so successfully - create their own system.


I think the average consumer is getting wise to this though. The only reason there has been no backlash on the iTunes DRM is because nobody has come along with the iPod killer yet.

Once that happens, the uproar from people that bought tracks from iTunes will begin.

I hope the customer continues to get smarter about DRM.

Legally, eMusic in the US operates a store with music in MP3 format. They don't have content from the major labels, but they do have some good stuff. It's the major labels that are holding back the MP3 format.

Regarding profitability, nobody is making money selling music on-line at the moment. Not even iTunes. Apple and Microsoft chose this structure to support sales of a device. And it's all at the customer's expense.


Posted by Revival160 on Nov-14-2006 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
That said, the iTunes Music Store has the same problem as the Zune Marketplace. You can only play the files on an iPod, nothing else. Unless you know of this other stuff, which most people do not.


Exactly. Most people don't understand this at all. Why do you think $1 from every Zune sold is going into Universal's pocket? They understand the limitations, and want to get paid up front.


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