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Burning CDs for CDJ's....

hey,
Ive been DJin for years with vinyl and recently added serato and am making the move to all digital setup. I have been burning CDs for the past few years because i knew i would be adding CDJ's (pio 800's). Recently i have been using these 'Ridata' CDs from my dads office, i have burned over 100. My buddy is saying that these CDs are not off high enough quality and will mess up in CDj's...im like WTF??

So tell me CDJ owners are there problems with bad quality CDS?
And how do i know the quality of tyhese 'Ridata' CDS??

let me know, thx

Why don't you put one in and see what happens?

yes true. i would do that, if i had purchased them already. . I was just wondering if i will have to re-burn these discs. Do you have anything useful to add to your statement??

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Originally posted by orange_j yes true. i would do that, if i had purchased them already. . I was just wondering if i will have to re-burn these discs. Do you have anything useful to add to your statement??

Not really man. I asked the same question to a dj friend of mine who plays only CD's and he said he never ran into a problem with burning tracks to different types of cd's and playing them in cd turntables. Sure, when you buy big bundles of blank discs you run into the occasional dud, but I don't think there is much more to it then that. You should be fine.

Worst case scenario: You are burning your tracks all over again.

CDJs are usually pretty good about reading cheap media.

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Originally posted by Zild CDJs are usually pretty good about reading cheap media.

+1 (especially pios!)

ive only heard of non-pioneers having consistant problems reading cheap media. also what quality music are you using to burn? typically anything mp3@320 or higher (so 320, wav, flac, etc) will burn great quality cd's...make sure you dont burn faster than 8x or your more prone to get errors in the audio.

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster +1 (especially pios!) ive only heard of non-pioneers having consistant problems reading cheap media. also what quality music are you using to burn? typically anything mp3@320 or higher (so 320, wav, flac, etc) will burn great quality cd's...make sure you dont burn faster than 8x or your more prone to get errors in the audio.

I have burned to some pretty cheap cds before and never had problems. And yeah, like you say you are suppose to burn in the lowest possible setting you can. I asked this question like a year ago and thats pretty much the only thing everyone told me.

Mike

i see. thanks for the replys. I guess i will start burning at a modest 8x rather than the time saving 48x speed...lol. Thanks all

i burn with cheap cds at 48x. never had a problem.

memorex 52x now thats a rap.

If you use Nero make sure it's not v7

you can use nero v7 , just grab mp3pro.dll from v6 and replace it. problem solved.

Also , newer releases of v7 dont have that problem (well mine dosnt anyhow)

Jay

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Originally posted by veezee you can use nero v7 , just grab mp3pro.dll from v6 and replace it. problem solved. Also , newer releases of v7 dont have that problem (well mine dosnt anyhow) Jay

What problem is this ?

Do you all burn your mp3s as mp3s to your cd's or do you burn them as a audio cd? Will you lose quality if burned as a audio cd?

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Originally posted by Penfold99 Do you all burn your mp3s as mp3s to your cd's or do you burn them as a audio cd? Will you lose quality if burned as a audio cd?

The best a quality in cd format is 320 kbps. I think if you burn in wav you can get way more like 1000. Im wondering to if you burn in mp3 format will the kbps carry over.

No, you will not loose quality.

My method, when i finally get them, will be to burn Audio CDs, with all mixes of the single on each CD. You waste a lot of space, but it will work better when storing loops/ cues and hot cues.

Bet you're getting excited now eh Penfold?!?!?

Jarv

Convert an MP3 to audio, you get the same quality as the original MP3. However, encode audio CD to MP3 and thats where the loss of sound quality comes around. Although if you encode at 320kbps most people would never notice.

Jarv

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister Convert an MP3 to audio, you get the same quality as the original MP3. However, encode audio CD to MP3 and thats where the loss of sound quality comes around. Although if you encode at 320kbps most people would never notice. Jarv

ok cool thanks good to know.

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister No, you will not loose quality. My method, when i finally get them, will be to burn Audio CDs, with all mixes of the single on each CD. You waste a lot of space, but it will work better when storing loops/ cues and hot cues. Bet you're getting excited now eh Penfold?!?!? Jarv

I am yea! if they come next week lol

You heard anymore abouts yours m8?

Ive been using nero 6 and draging my mp3s across which makes a audio cd, so I should not lose quality?

Correctomundo!

Mine, basically I'm waiting to hear that other have theirs, then I'll ring my place and.... well, play the game.

Jarv

Bah! Lots of misinformation in this thread...

1. Cheap CD's are cheap. Don't buy them I had a bunch of super-cheap CDR's that DELAMINATED over time (meaning, the silver coating came off, rendering them unusuable, and quite messy). I never bought the super cheap ones again. But even decent CD's are really affordable if you order them in bulk online.

2. Converting an MP3 to an audio CD will result in an audio CD with MP3 quality. CD quality sound (16 bit, 44.1khz) is higher quality than ANY MP3. MP3 is a lossless codec, and it's normally made by compressing a CD quality file, therefore no matter what bit-rate you encode at, there will always be some loss of sound quality. That being said, 320Kbps isn't bad, but you shouldn't play anything less on a big system.

3. Downloading a WAV format of an audio file and burning it to a CD is the same as buying a CD in the store, no loss of audio quality.

4. WAV is not a single thing. Just as MP3 can be encoded at different bitrates, WAV is just an audio file container format. A wav file can be recorded at various bitrates, from really crappy to 24/96khz quality (which is far better than CD quality).

5. HIGHER quality audio then CD exists in the form of SACD (super audio-cd) and DVD audio. These use the much higher 24 bit/96khz sample rate for digital audio that is typically used by studios. We, as DJ's, should push to make these standard. There are debates as to whether vinyl sounds better than CD (which was standardized in 1980, mind you), but nobody really debates SACD or DVDA. Distributing this quality file in a lossless compression format online should be pushed as the future. Why settle for less in this day an age? MP3 caught on during a period when nothing better was availble (and bandwidth was extremely limited), there are very few good reasons to continue using it.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Bah! Lots of misinformation in this thread... 2. MP3 is a lossless codec,

Lots of misinformation in this thread and your post is no exception;


MP3 is a LOSSY codec , not lossless !!

LOL Pwned!

That was a typo, obviously

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Originally posted by First Strike Lots of misinformation in this thread and your post is no exception; MP3 is a LOSSY codec , not lossless !!

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Originally posted by Penfold99 What problem is this ?

some versions of nero 7 burned audio w/ skips in the music, much like yo would here on a cd. Very annoying btw

google "nero skipping audio" or something.

Jay

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