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Help me decide b/t A&H xone 32 or 02

I am getting a mixer for Christmas and have narrowed the choices between the xone32 or the xone02 battle mixer. I mainly spin trance and like to mix rather than scratch, but I don't want to spend money on a mixer and not be able to scratch in the future.

I've heard the quality on Allen and Heath mixers is very good, but I've never used one nor has anyone I know. The 02 is cheaper and allows up to 2 tt and 2cds (currently I only use vinyl tt), but I am unsure about the slide eq versus knob eq. I've never used a mixer with slide eq, and it just seems weird. But if it is easy to use and people like it I wouldn't be opposed to spending less money for the 02.

What do you think?

You can't really scratch on that 32 but you can definitely scratch on the 02. The 02 also is great for mixing it just has a battle layout. (Faders spaced far apart, good crossfader, etc...) I prefer to use a battle mixer if I'm only using 2 channels.

How is it using those slide eq's?

my opinion is go with a vestax...they make sick battle mixers and imo amazing sound quality for the price (specifically the vmc004XL). with the 004 you can still scratch but its more of a house mixer. i guess it goes with your style really but if your more of an EDM person i wouldnt go with a battle mixer, a&h or not.

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Originally posted by reeftiger How is it using those slide eq's?

They're kinda strange.

I think I'm probably going to get the xone32. I just don't think I can handle the slide eq. I looked at the vestax, but for some reason I get the impression that the A and H is higher quality and could be more fun with the filters.

Has anyone used this mixer? Any thoughts?

Also, I was looking at the back of the mixer and the output seems to be non-RCA. My reciever only has RCA inputs. What cables do I need to hook them together?

Thanks everyone!

Clovis on here uses a 32, he seems to be a big fan of it.

theres also the ECLER NUO3 in that price range. A LOT better layout than the XONE:32 and equal sound/build quality

I have this mixer, and while I dont scratch with it, friends have and they liked it. The crossfader has an onn/off and curve adjust. The faders are very smooth, it baisically feels like a mini xone 62, with only 3 band eq. You might note that the channel levels are on the back of the mixer just above the RCA inputs, and although it seems weird at first you get used to it rather quickly...


...and finally the sound is superb Very warm and classic A&H.

The ECLER doesn't have a cue/main option to preview the mix in the headphones prior to introducing the new track. This feature is a must for me with my current setup. I don't need a split cue, but I do need some sort of preview.

I guess there is a way to cue the main and the cued track together, but in my experience with other mixers the main track volume is significantly louder in the phones and makes incoming track volume adjustments significantly more difficult.

Clovis, do you like the filter section? Also, how much kill is there with counterclockwise positioning? I don't really scratch, I just mix and record so I want great eq and good sound quality.

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Originally posted by reeftiger Clovis, do you like the filter section? Also, how much kill is there with counterclockwise positioning? I don't really scratch, I just mix and record so I want great eq and good sound quality.

The kills are not huge, only -26db, but the same you'd find on pioneers and most other mixers. The filters are fantastic, and you can effectively use the filter to kill bass completely by using a high pass or high pass/band pass combo and moving the filter slider to the desired position. With the filter resonance knob you can use the filter either as more of an effect with added white noise, or more as an eq help with no distortion...

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Originally posted by reeftiger The ECLER doesn't have a cue/main option to preview the mix in the headphones prior to introducing the new track. This feature is a must for me with my current setup. I don't need a split cue, but I do need some sort of preview. I guess there is a way to cue the main and the cued track together, but in my experience with other mixers the main track volume is significantly louder in the phones and makes incoming track volume adjustments significantly more difficult.

huh? what do you mean? The ECLER has a CUE button per channel, and a CUE/MIX knob, so you can hear both your CUE'd tracks AND your MIX output at the same time.



see? on top of the headphone volume? it says PFL/MIX

Ok, I see now. I'm just not used to the PFL label. (what does that mean?) Well, I guess it's now between these two. I plan on having this mixer for a long time and using it as my main mixer. It just seems like the A & H has more functions to play with considering the slide filter controls and such. Am I missing something?

Also, will I be able to plug the A&H output into an RCA in on my reciever?

Thanks for you guys' help.

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Originally posted by reeftiger I'm just not used to the PFL label. (what does that mean?)

Pre fade listen. Just another way of saying cue.

Yup...Pre Fade Listen.

You can use the XONE:32 on your receiver, it has RCA outs for the REC output. Ugh...I just noticed that the switch for PHONO/LINE is on the back of the XONE:32..never noticed that before

The NUO3 has an AUX2 RCA output, with its own balance and volume control, as well as a seperate REC RCA output (and XLR, if you need to hook it up to a bigger system).

Both are excellent mixers...with the NUO3 offering a bit more in functionality (full EQ kills, adjustable curves on all faders, if you want to scratch, better external FX loop and overall better layout), while the XONE has those sweet filters. Both of them will give you pretty much the same sound and build quality.

Just looked at one at a dj supply store close to home (the xone 32). Man, what a nice mixer. $1600!!! I almost fainted. But you know what, I will have that mixer soon. I could hardly keep my hands off it. Gotta love the 2 seperate eqs for the lows. What, one is for the bass line, and the other is for the kick??

Mike

you must be talking about the XONE:62 or XONE:92, because the 32 isnt $1600. And only the 62/92 have the two MID EQ knobs.

It goes like this:

1 TREBLE

1 MID-HIGH

1 MID-LOW

1 LOW (BASS)


I personally find it a bit akward having 2 MID EQ's...as I wouldnt know which one to use! Some people like it tho...but it can be a bit confusing.

So I guess I could get Y adapters for the RCA out and send one to the recorder and the other to the reciever. By the way, it must not be the xone 32 because I'll get if for around $600.

One thing i don't like about the eclers is that they hold most of their volume in the mid EQ, but everything else is nice about them.

You can get jack - RCA leads so you can use the master out - no need to mess about with splitting the record output and all that lark.

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Originally posted by Soundwerks you must be talking about the XONE:62 or XONE:92, because the 32 isnt $1600. And only the 62/92 have the two MID EQ knobs. It goes like this: 1 TREBLE 1 MID-HIGH 1 MID-LOW 1 LOW (BASS) I personally find it a bit akward having 2 MID EQ's...as I wouldnt know which one to use! Some people like it tho...but it can be a bit confusing.

I think it was the 92. So, those are 2 seperate mid eqs, huh. Is one more focused on the kick? If thats the case I think it would come in handy.

Mike

well, I think the kick would be more bassy, and would fall into the LOW EQ.

The MID HIGH/MID LOW is just like the MID on a normal mixer, just split into two. So I guess the MID-LOW would dip into the kick a bit...but then you'd have to turn the LOW and MID LOW at the same time.

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Originally posted by Soundwerks well, I think the kick would be more bassy, and would fall into the LOW EQ. The MID HIGH/MID LOW is just like the MID on a normal mixer, just split into two. So I guess the MID-LOW would dip into the kick a bit...but then you'd have to turn the LOW and MID LOW at the same time.

I see. Thanks.

Mike

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