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How do YOU correct the record when its off?

Just wondering what the majority of people do to correct the record when the beats are off...and when its live (meaning its playing along with the one you are about to mix out of). Im in the bad habit of touching the platter to slow it down or spinning the label to speed it up if it needs it. I heard about people using the pitch control, and was wondering what the technique is...besides the obvious slowing or making faster.

Re: How do YOU correct the record when its off?

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Originally posted by D-Syde Just wondering what the majority of people do to correct the record when the beats are off...and when its live (meaning its playing along with the one you are about to mix out of). Im in the bad habit of touching the platter to slow it down or spinning the label to speed it up if it needs it. I heard about people using the pitch control, and was wondering what the technique is...besides the obvious slowing or making faster.

Pitch control! .. Touching the platter, vinyl however you use your hands to change the speed, it is easily noticable, sometimes not, you can also bump the record or make it skip and then you're SOL. Best way is with the pitch fader, although many DJ's touch the vinyl and I know this because I can hear it.

Since i'm a rook, I have the habit of touching the record also. I do know and have been practicing just using pitch, does sound a hell of alot better

i only touch the plater to slow a record down, and when i do i make sure there is no synth or anything playing so you can't notice a change in tone and don't get that wobbly sound

if there is a synth or something...ill either adjust the record im mixing out of (again if there isn't a melody or anything), or use pitch control

it also depends how much i need to adjust it
i mean if im on the verge of a trainwreck...then yeah ill just adjust the record cuz i mean i'd rather hear a 1/2 second of the tone changing by touching hte record, than a trainwreck by trying to be discrete about it

unfortunately i touch the platter as well although i'm in the process of getting used to using the pitch control.

lost

So how fast does the pitch slider get it back into sync? Seems to me like after you adjust it, it would take a little while to fall back into sync. Or do you guys over compensate then bring it to about where its supposed to be...for example your record is going too fast, so instead of moving the slider a bit up, you move it a lot up, then back to a little above it was....to give it a quick slow down then bring it back to being about beatmatched?

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Originally posted by D-Syde So how fast does the pitch slider get it back into sync? Seems to me like after you adjust it, it would take a little while to fall back into sync. Or do you guys over compensate then bring it to about where its supposed to be...for example your record is going too fast, so instead of moving the slider a bit up, you move it a lot up, then back to a little above it was....to give it a quick slow down then bring it back to being about beatmatched?

I do that .. but it takes alot out of you coz you have to know your pitch slider VERY well; remember you're doing this DURING a transition so one wrong move and you're wrecked.
I'm one of those who touch the platter and the label to make it work but it works for me so there.

I always used to touch the platter, but now I've trained myself to do it the proper way, with the pitch control

This method is definitely better as you don't get that "pitch bend" effect. How much to correct it by all depends on how far off the beats are. I don't tend to have to move the slider very far at all

It's definitely better to learn this early, as I had all sorts of problems switching over. I just kept instinctively touching the platter without thinking about it.

I still see PvD do it sometimes, so don't think it's THAT bad a thing.

tap the side of the vinyl with your index finger and correct appropriately...always works for me

Why there's a platter for?
Welp.. most of the times I touch the platter, but from time to time I use the pitch fader..

DJTJ...There is no proper way...DJ's only do it there way...Which at the time is right...Its when they naturally adjust...through practise that they then find a new right(proper way).

I tend to use both ways...I find the platter clap to be much more useful as it instontanious...where as the pitch control takes more time.

pitch control or the nipple

of course you want to correct the the track thats goin to be faded out.....not the one ur bringing in

thats a little tip for you newbie DJs

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Originally posted by DJ LIQUID pitch control or the nipple of course you want to correct the the track thats goin to be faded out.....not the one ur bringing in thats a little tip for you newbie DJs

Nipple.. that would be the little metal thing where you stick your records into, would it
And yeah, always correct the outgoing one, never the incoming one. Disaster for the latter

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Originally posted by DJ LIQUID of course you want to correct the the track thats goin to be faded out.....not the one ur bringing in thats a little tip for you newbie DJs

I don't think this is always true - I think the best thing to do is to adjst the track that is quietest, so before the halfway-point (crossover point, or whatever you call it ) I would adjust the incoming track, and afterwards then i would adjust the outgoing track. If you adjust the louder of the two tracks then it's going to be more noticeable, surely?

there isn't a right way or a wrong way, it's just the style that you choose to adopt.

if done properly in both instances, it won't be noticeable, but as well in both ways, you do it wrong and the mix will sound like shit

anywho, i touch the platter and the label

DJ Liquid...look mate...any adjustment should be as unnoticable as possible...Are u seriously telling me U NEVER adjust the incoming track...if this is the case, then your full of shit... ...A DJ naturally adjusts the record which is easiest to do so...In other words s/he adjusts the one which they can manipulate without the listener noticing.

Personally I feel more secure with adjusting the outgoing than the incoming; at least most of the time people are not going to know, coz it's fading out anyway. To each his own, I guess.

all depends... keep in mind what makes a good transition is when you get the crowds attention with the incoming track. because if you think about it, theres no perfect way to fade out a track, but people don't pay much attention to it.. they get taken by the melody of the new track. so depending on the volume and the time its been mixing u can do either or. if your in a total rutt and your beat matching is horribly off, just cut to the new track -- save yourself the bother.

also try to use the metal spindle thing.. cuz if you have a super warped record you can skip it easily.. iv done this sometimes. im playing with a solid record so i spin it hard.. then the next record is a warped record (you guys know, the oval warp that makes the thing have close to NO friction). i tap that one with my finger and by misstake spin the bastard like 5 beats foward.. its tricky!

dazzed

I just use the pitch control when cueing

When its coming on live I touch the label of the vinyl slightly when its slightly off, and i touch the platter when its way off.

I know i shouldn't but i touch the platter.

touch the platter
what do u mean?.. (i dont own decks, )
should'nt u be touching the record??

the platter is the spinning metal thing below the vinyl ( and foam )

if its the record im cuein up...i get real hands on w/ the record and spindle. if im mixin it in and u can hear it, ill use the pitch...pretty basic & simple ** .,

I'm not sure what people are talking about when they adjust the outgoing track -- if you're song is going out of sync the last thing you'd want to do is waste time by switching turntables (and you also run the risk of confusing it and changing the pitch the wrong way). And about PVD mixing, he seems to let the track get out of sync sometimes (listen to the Desire --> Deep Sea transition on rosenmontags).

For me, I started originally by only using the pitch control. I find the best way not is to align the record initially when cued with your hand, then, if it starts to stray, speed it up with the pitch control or slow it down by putting my finger on the side of the platter. The most important thing is being able to recognize when and where the incoming song is straying, and adjust accordingly. If you can get it early, only the most experienced DJ's will pick up on it, and probably no one will if you are playing live.

DJ Nuclear ~_^

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