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Upgrade DJm600 - 800 - pointless if no Midi?

Hey folks.

So - I'm looking for ways to deduct tax. I've already bought 2 CDJ1000's - and I'm now looking at the DJM800 as the next big purchase. (Better I get it than the tax-man).

However, though the sound processing and new on-board effects have improved compared to my current DJM 600 - as I don't use anything like Ableton or Traktor as input devices in the mix - I wonder how much I'd get out of it.

Sure, I can't wait to use the phaser effect etc - but apart from being able to hook up my 1000's digitally, and it looking WAAAAAAY sweeter than the 600 - is it really worh forking out �1,100 (currently equivalent of $2,100) for one?

Thanks in advance.

Negative!


You are better getting a Xone 92 for that sort of money, you'll notice a massive difference in sound quality and the filters make me feel all lightheaded.

Plus you can always buy a EFX-1000 or 500.

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Originally posted by ZeJayMan Negative! You are better getting a Xone 92 for that sort of money, you'll notice a massive difference in sound quality and the filters make me feel all lightheaded.

couldnt agree more, allen and heath filters are sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

Go Pio if you like your effects and want a 100% digital setup. There is a huge amount of versatility in the Pio 800 and CDJ1000 combo.

Don't let the A&H crew sway you - go Pio. Sound quality is supposed to be just as awesome on the 800 as the 92.

Watch this flash presentation, it's a great demo of the 800.

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/mixers/pioneer/djm800

Jarv

Hey,

Thanks (so far) to those who've replied.

I used the 800 once when doing research for my book, and loved it. (though I didn't get the chance to use the A+H stuff, so can't really compare). I guess my question is really just one of justification - as I don't think I'll ever go anywhere near the MIDI stuff on it - I figure I was looking for someone to say 'not a problem, it's 10000 times better than the 600'

When, I know from using it that it's better than the 600 - but will I be paying all that money for features (Midi control) I'll never use...

You should see me trying to buy a new pair of jeans... I'm even worse than this.

I'll keep thinking...

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister Go Pio if you like your effects and want a 100% digital setup. There is a huge amount of versatility in the Pio 800 and CDJ1000 combo. Don't let the A&H crew sway you - go Pio. Sound quality is supposed to be just as awesome on the 800 as the 92. Watch this flash presentation, it's a great demo of the 800. http://www.decks.co.uk/products/mixers/pioneer/djm800 Jarv

Don't Let those showboating pioneer bastard get you! Go A&H!

Hahaha , i have to say, If i had all the money in the world, i'd buy the Xone 3D, if i had 1000 quid and scratching was an important part of my set, i'd go for the Pio 800. If don't scratch much, but want the amazing warm quality sound and superb filters, go for A&H Xone 92.


I'm trying to think of a car comparison, hmm, get back to me on that.

Other competitors, Rane Empath, Vestax PMC-37 Pro.

I've played most of my recent shows on an 800, and it sounds smooth as hell. The sound quality is much better than the 600, and the effects are pimp. I did a show a couple weeks ago on a zone 92 and it sounded like shite to me...no smoothness to the mixes at all, you could tell when I brought in the tracks, real poor sound quality compared to the 800. Those Allen and Heath mixers are made for analog stuff. Records sound OK on them, but digital media lacks quite a bit on them. The 800 is made for those pioneer CDJs, so that is what I would go with if I were you. I hated that zone 92 and I'll never play on one again.

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Originally posted by Aaron Lee I've played most of my recent shows on an 800, and it sounds smooth as hell. The sound quality is much better than the 600, and the effects are pimp. I did a show a couple weeks ago on a zone 92 and it sounded like shite to me...no smoothness to the mixes at all, you could tell when I brought in the tracks, real poor sound quality compared to the 800. Those Allen and Heath mixers are made for analog stuff. Records sound OK on them, but digital media lacks quite a bit on them. The 800 is made for those pioneer CDJs, so that is what I would go with if I were you. I hated that zone 92 and I'll never play on one again.

The Xone 92 is one of the best mixers available to buy on the market today. The sounds quality is unrivaled in my opinion and the build quality and filters speak for themselves. In reference to the original poster, the fact that you have two CDJ's makes this a tough decision, the Pioneer DJM 800 is obviously all digital and would suit the CDJ's, but in that case you might as well buy a much cheaper digital option. (Especially if you're mixing exclusively from CDJ's and not TT's.) Namely the DJM400.

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Originally posted by ZeJayMan The Xone 92 is one of the best mixers available to buy on the market today. The sounds quality is unrivaled in my opinion and the build quality and filters speak for themselves. In reference to the original poster, the fact that you have two CDJ's makes this a tough decision, the Pioneer DJM 800 is obviously all digital and would suit the CDJ's, but in that case you might as well buy a much cheaper digital option. (Especially if you're mixing exclusively from CDJ's and not TT's.) Namely the DJM400.

the djm400 doesnt have digital ins like the djm800.

Hey,

Thanks to everyone for their replies so far (even if it did get off track and became a Pioneer V A&H instead of 600 v 800 thing).

Just to clear one thing up, I'm by no means only using the CDJ1000's - got a nice pair of 1210's that have been keeping me smiling for ten years - it's just that I finally came out of the technological dark ages after researching the 1000's for the book - realising that there's nothing wrong with including CDJ's as part of a DJ setup. As seen below:



So - in other words - I'm looking for something that'll sound great regardless of what goes into it - but isn't going to be more than I actually use - hence the original post of 'is it worth it if I don't use the MIDI inputs'.

And thanks for the offer ******** - but as this is about tax-deduction, I don't know how well that would work out for me. I guess I'll wait, see how many books I sell, and therefore how much tax I need to pay - and then make my decision about moving up from the 600.

I'm a Pioneer kinda guy though - always have been - so until I get a chance to demo the A&H - my choice is to either stick with the 600 - or upgrade to the 800 - nothing else comes to mind. Maybe I am still in the dark ages...

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Originally posted by nutsan the djm400 doesnt have digital ins like the djm800.

Ah fuck. I was so sure that it had the digital ins.

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Originally posted by DJRecess Hey, Thanks to everyone for their replies so far (even if it did get off track and became a Pioneer V A&H instead of 600 v 800 thing). Just to clear one thing up, I'm by no means only using the CDJ1000's - got a nice pair of 1210's that have been keeping me smiling for ten years - it's just that I finally came out of the technological dark ages after researching the 1000's for the book - realising that there's nothing wrong with including CDJ's as part of a DJ setup. As seen below: So - in other words - I'm looking for something that'll sound great regardless of what goes into it - but isn't going to be more than I actually use - hence the original post of 'is it worth it if I don't use the MIDI inputs'. And thanks for the offer ******** - but as this is about tax-deduction, I don't know how well that would work out for me. I guess I'll wait, see how many books I sell, and therefore how much tax I need to pay - and then make my decision about moving up from the 600. I'm a Pioneer kinda guy though - always have been - so until I get a chance to demo the A&H - my choice is to either stick with the 600 - or upgrade to the 800 - nothing else comes to mind. Maybe I am still in the dark ages...

Oh and when can I come over for a spin!?

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Originally posted by ZeJayMan Oh and when can I come over for a spin!?

Next time you're near Kirkintilloch, give me a shout - you bring the beer and pizza, I'll warn the neighbours.

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Originally posted by Aaron Lee I've played most of my recent shows on an 800, and it sounds smooth as hell. The sound quality is much better than the 600, and the effects are pimp. I did a show a couple weeks ago on a zone 92 and it sounded like shite to me...no smoothness to the mixes at all, you could tell when I brought in the tracks, real poor sound quality compared to the 800. Those Allen and Heath mixers are made for analog stuff. Records sound OK on them, but digital media lacks quite a bit on them. The 800 is made for those pioneer CDJs, so that is what I would go with if I were you. I hated that zone 92 and I'll never play on one again.

just wondering, but did you take into account other variables like speakers, amps, their set-up, acoustics in the room, etc etc? or was it the same set up, just different mixer?

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Originally posted by Acid John just wondering, but did you take into account other variables like speakers, amps, their set-up, acoustics in the room, etc etc? or was it the same set up, just different mixer?

It was at the club I both book for and have had a residency at for 5 years, so I have played on that system hundreds of times. I gave a Wednesday night once a month to a friend of mine to bring in minimal artists, and he decided to set up his mixer instead of the 800. He had me open for Tim Xavier that night, so I just played on what he had set up. Like I said, I hated it. I think it's because it is analog and made for tables, and I play all digital. I've heard him play records on it and it sounded fine, but even Tim Xavier's Serato set up sounded bad on it.

Pioneer 800 all the way if you are using digital media.

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Originally posted by DJRecess Next time you're near Kirkintilloch, give me a shout - you bring the beer and pizza, I'll warn the neighbours.

Haha, I've got cousins over there, i'm in kirky quite a bit actually. My god the club there are so bad, i hope you trek into Glasgow if you're going out! What's it called again? Tantric or something, i went once a while ago and it was so fucking bad hahaha.

Re: Upgrade DJm600 - 800 - pointless if no Midi?

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Originally posted by DJRecess Hey folks.

Know this will come across a bit gay but if (and I think it's pretty obvious you are) you're "the" recess who setup the recess site. I'd just like to say cheers you helped me on my first steps of DJing and made them alot easier. (been doing it 4 or so years now )

Brilliant and useful site!

Aw, cheers man - I really appreciate it. The site's been up there for almost 10 years now, but it still amazes me each and every time I get a note like that saying the site helped someone out.

It's messages like this that gave me the balls to try to write the book version of it - so if it sucks - you can blame yourself a little

Just kidding. Thanks again for the message - I'm glad my inane waffle was able to help you out.

John.

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Originally posted by ZeJayMan Haha, I've got cousins over there, i'm in kirky quite a bit actually. My god the club there are so bad, i hope you trek into Glasgow if you're going out! What's it called again? Tantric or something, i went once a while ago and it was so fucking bad hahaha.

Yeah, it's not the best. Although, it's got four clubs - so for a small town - you think it'd have a reputation as clubbing central for East Dunbartonshire.

I've never been in any of them though. From what I can gather, it's all pretty mich happy hardcore or chart-cheese. Hell, Joe Deacon DJs in Club Go - so that's not exactly a seal of approval!!

Tantra's closed now I think. Well, there's no sign on it, and there's a big skip outside it - so you've got to assume something's going on. and there's a couple of smaller clubs (or maybe just one) above the shopping strip - neither of which look as though they'll be playing pumping tunes of an evening.

So, yeah - I tend to try Glasgow instead. But - it's not the best nowadays either. The Arches still rocks - but all the clubs are either mainstream cheese or R+B - neither of which do I want to spend time or money among.

Good to hear from someone who knows the place though - "Kirkinwhat?" is what I get most...

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