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All CDJ's play mp3's no??

Just read on another forum someone did not know higher level CDJS do not play mp3s. Is this so?

Which ones?

Do I have to convert ALL MY MP3 cds into WAVS now?

Loads don't - Pioneer CDJ1000 Mk1 & 2 and CDJ800 Mk1 spring to mind instantly.

If you've burnt all your MP3s to CD as audio (max of about 10 tracks/CD) then you'll be fine, if they're burnt as data (70 or so tracks/CD) then you'll have to reburn them if you want to play them in a non-MP3 compatible CDJ.

Andy

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Originally posted by andydavey Loads don't - Pioneer CDJ1000 Mk1 & 2 and CDJ800 Mk1 spring to mind instantly. If you've burnt all your MP3s to CD as audio (max of about 10 tracks/CD) then you'll be fine, if they're burnt as data (70 or so tracks/CD) then you'll have to reburn them if you want to play them in a non-MP3 compatible CDJ. Andy

The 1000s don't??!?!?


And for the second part, are you talking about when I burn my cds with say Nero and I don't choose data cd but Audio CD? I think I'm safe there, but I may have chosen data a few times...I'm not sure.

BTW#, I have 800 MK2s so if that plays it it should work with the 1000 no?

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Originally posted by Ministerio The 1000s don't??!?!? And for the second part, are you talking about when I burn my cds with say Nero and I don't choose data cd but Audio CD? I think I'm safe there, but I may have chosen data a few times...I'm not sure. BTW#, I have 800 MK2s so if that plays it it should work with the 1000 no?

And yes, currently ALL my cd's Though I haven't filled up my CD binder yet, are mp3s.

most Denon CD players play mp3s. but Denons suck.

Pioneer's first 'CDJ' to play MP3s was the CDJ-200. before it, the DMP-55 played them, but i understand that to be a quite unpopular unit. the CDJ-800Mk2 has the added MP3 functionality, as well as the 1000Mk3, as their previous versions did not.

on another note, many programs or pieces of gear calculate an MP3 file's time based on its bitrate. such is the case of the CDJ-200, making it impossible for you to play VBR MP3s. well, yes, it will PLAY them, but you will not be able to pitch at all. the CDJ-1000Mk3 does not do it this way, allowing full functionality for VBR MP3s. i don't know about the 800.

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Originally posted by Inertia most Denon CD players play mp3s. but Denons suck. Pioneer's first 'CDJ' to play MP3s was the CDJ-200. before it, the DMP-55 played them, but i understand that to be a quite unpopular unit. the CDJ-800Mk2 has the added MP3 functionality, as well as the 1000Mk3, as their previous versions did not. on another note, many programs or pieces of gear calculate an MP3 file's time based on its bitrate. such is the case of the CDJ-200, making it impossible for you to play VBR MP3s. well, yes, it will PLAY them, but you will not be able to pitch at all. the CDJ-1000Mk3 does not do it this way, allowing full functionality for VBR MP3s. i don't know about the 800.

Wow strong info. I'm only asking because someone on the other forum apparently didn't know higher level CDJS didn't play mp3s like the lower levels, and he was playing out.

I want to know if my mp3s are good now, before I'm in front of a crowd.

i really dont get what the big deal is with cd decks playing mp3's i would go as far as to say that i bet 90% of djs dont use mp3's anyway they all use data cds up to 10 tracks per cd.

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Originally posted by Inertia but Denons suck.

that abit unfair

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Originally posted by sleepydragon that abit unfair

fine.

i just have had really bad experiences all around with the brand. it's one of those brands by now that looks great on paper, works pretty good the first couple of times, and then craps out for no reason 6 months to a year in.

anyone can say anything they like about Pioneer, plasticy, bla bla, but they build shit that lasts. sure, a hiccup here and there with a new release, but 9/10 times if you got one, you just had some real bad luck, and i hear Pio has nice customer service to deal with this.

Denon has definately had some issues with it's latest player, the DN-S3500. Most of them seem to be resolved with the latest firmware update. It's a shame, really. Denon's dual-deck players are the industry standard (for DUAL players, not single decks). You'll still find a ton of Dual-Deck denon players out in clubs, and they are still going strong after 10 years. So I wouldn't give up on the brand just yet...

In any case, I would say don't burn your music as anything other than an Audio CD. If you have any aspirations of playing out, many clubs will have either the Denon Dual decks, Pio CDJ-1000MK1/MK2's (the MK3's are the first 1000 to play MP3, and they just came out this year, and at $1100 for almost no new functionality, clubs aren't jumping to upgrade), or some other CDJ that probably doesn't play them.

I really only see a benefit for using MP3 CD's for mobile DJ's (think wedding) who want have a ton of music in a small space. For club DJ'ing, you'll just make it more difficult for yourself to find anything.

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Originally posted by Inertia fine. i just have had really bad experiences all around with the brand. it's one of those brands by now that looks great on paper, works pretty good the first couple of times, and then craps out for no reason 6 months to a year in. anyone can say anything they like about Pioneer, plasticy, bla bla, but they build shit that lasts. sure, a hiccup here and there with a new release, but 9/10 times if you got one, you just had some real bad luck, and i hear Pio has nice customer service to deal with this.

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Originally posted by Ministerio Wow strong info. I'm only asking because someone on the other forum apparently didn't know higher level CDJS didn't play mp3s like the lower levels, and he was playing out. I want to know if my mp3s are good now, before I'm in front of a crowd.

wow strong arms

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Originally posted by andydavey Loads don't - Pioneer CDJ1000 Mk1 & 2 and CDJ800 Mk1 spring to mind instantly. Andy

That doesn't make much sense, seeing as the CDJ200 plays mp3's.

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Originally posted by Igaryok That doesn't make much sense, seeing as the CDJ200 plays mp3's.

Those are older models, the updated 1000's and 800's do, but, as was already mentioned, some of the functionality is limited by vbr mp3s.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Denon has definately had some issues with it's latest player, the DN-S3500. Most of them seem to be resolved with the latest firmware update. It's a shame, really. Denon's dual-deck players are the industry standard (for DUAL players, not single decks). You'll still find a ton of Dual-Deck denon players out in clubs, and they are still going strong after 10 years. So I wouldn't give up on the brand just yet... In any case, I would say don't burn your music as anything other than an Audio CD. If you have any aspirations of playing out, many clubs will have either the Denon Dual decks, Pio CDJ-1000MK1/MK2's (the MK3's are the first 1000 to play MP3, and they just came out this year, and at $1100 for almost no new functionality, clubs aren't jumping to upgrade), or some other CDJ that probably doesn't play them. I really only see a benefit for using MP3 CD's for mobile DJ's (think wedding) who want have a ton of music in a small space. For club DJ'ing, you'll just make it more difficult for yourself to find anything.

you sir, are correct. the DN2600F is a legendary unit from what i gather. too bad they don't make 'em like they used to.

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Originally posted by Igaryok That doesn't make much sense, seeing as the CDJ200 plays mp3's.

Which are also a hell of alot newer in release than the 1000's MK1/2 and 800's MK1....

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Originally posted by J:\Digital Which are also a hell of alot newer in release than the 1000's MK1/2 and 800's MK1....

Yeah exactly - the original CDJ1000 (mk1) came out in 2000 I think then the mk2 (and CDJ800 mk1) came out in about 2002, the CDJ200 didn't come out till last year.

I strongly advise anyone who expects to be playing out at any point in the next few years to avoid mp3 CDs at all costs cos it's still gonna be a long time before MP3 playing facilities are commonplace in clubs - hell loads of clubs still don't even have CDJs, or they've still got Denon DN1000s, the proper old skool Denon rackmount CD players that came out in the mid 90s. Tbh I think the whole MP3 CD thing might pretty much be skipped altogether, we could well find a Mac with serato or similar installed in every club before we get MP3-playing CDJs in every club.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox Tbh I think the whole MP3 CD thing might pretty much be skipped altogether, we could well find a Mac with serato or similar installed in every club before we get MP3-playing CDJs in every club.

Exactly, there are a hell of a lot more people embracing timecode vinyl technology/Ableton etc than there are using MP3 CDs.

Yep... I really like using Torq's timecode CD's. You get all the accuracy and features of the CDJ's, with the flexability of the software. Works like a charm.

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Originally posted by Rebel Brown Exactly, there are a hell of a lot more people embracing timecode vinyl technology/Ableton etc than there are using MP3 CDs.

Now that's a waste of money, using timecode cd's to play mp3's from your pc... (if you really don't use audio cd's on your cdj's that is)

Then I'd rather have an expensive midi controller which still is way cheaper than the 1600Euro I paid for my cdj 800's, and not to forget about the mixer even!

Nope, it's totally not. Seems like it might be, but really, it's not.

You could say the same for using TT's... it's all about feel and features.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Now that's a waste of money, using timecode cd's to play mp3's from your pc... (if you really don't use audio cd's on your cdj's that is) Then I'd rather have an expensive midi controller which still is way cheaper than the 1600Euro I paid for my cdj 800's, and not to forget about the mixer even!

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Originally posted by Storyteller Now that's a waste of money, using timecode cd's to play mp3's from your pc... (if you really don't use audio cd's on your cdj's that is) Then I'd rather have an expensive midi controller which still is way cheaper than the 1600Euro I paid for my cdj 800's, and not to forget about the mixer even!

I agree. I never really got into the idea of all of these Final Scratch substitutes (or FS itself)... partly cos I much prefer just using hardware through and through - hardware players and hard copies of my music.

Yea, the margin between buying mp3s and burning them & playing them from pc is so small, I just think it's strange.

That and you'll need to shift over your pc.. I'd rather have a box of cd's.

Well the advantages (at least with Torq):

1. Simple to use loops. They suck on CDJ's (because it's nearly impossible to get them accurate enough to mix into/out of), but they work great in Torq. Hit a button on my trigger finger, and I get a nice 2/4/8 bar loop that keeps time.

2. Effects. I'm not a huge effects whore, so using the occasional phaser/beat repeat/etc. that Torq comes with is plenty for me (rather than buy something like and EFX-1000).

3. Sampler.

4. The library. Being able to organize your tracks into any number of playlists, and have them sortable is fantastic. You can also just load up a track, listen to it, and decide "Meh, not that one." Hard to do that when you have to find a CD, put it in, wait for it to load, etc.

5. VST/Rewire. Use as you see fit.

I really bought Torq to get more use out of my 1200's, but playing around with it and my CDJ's I really like that setup too:

A. If your needles get dirty, the timecode can get lost pretty easy. This doesn't happen with CDJ's.

B. Mixing with CDJ's is far more accurate and requires less pitch riding.

So I don't think it's such a crazy idea. I don't know if I'd be bothered to bring it all to a gig just yet though.

As for using a MIDI controller to bypass the whole CDJ/Mixer thing, if you can find me one that feels like my CDJ-1000's and Xone 92, I'd be pretty happy. And the Xone:3D doesn't count

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Originally posted by Storyteller Yea, the margin between buying mp3s and burning them & playing them from pc is so small, I just think it's strange. That and you'll need to shift over your pc.. I'd rather have a box of cd's.

I take it you loop with the software then instead of looping with the cdj's?

Thanks for the clarification. It wouldn't work for me personally bit it does explain a lot

If you can't understand why using Serato with CDJs is awesome it is because you've never done it before.

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