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Posted by Myway on Nov-27-2006 03:11:

Quebec and Hong Kong

I must say sorry if I am saying this without proper knowledge about Quebec and rest of Canada. Anywho, as I notice the situation about Quebec (A Nation within Nation), I remind Hong Kong and China perticularly. I know Hong Kong and Quebec are totally different. But if Quebec is gonna be a nation within nation, Will that be like Hong Kong?


Posted by Alex on Nov-27-2006 04:04:

Entirely different circumstances, if there's any comparisson it would be like England's relationship to Scotland (also popping up in the news) Or the situation in Spain even, albeit less violent.


Posted by jester on Nov-27-2006 04:28:

If Quebec became its own nation and still not part of Canada, Quebec would be a 3rd world country. Quebec not industrialized enough by my standards for it to go at it alone. Honestly how many more businesses will now move to Ontario. Also imagine the new laws the Quebec government would put into place. Probably arrest you for speaking english. Close down any school that teaches english. Probably hire the FLQ to start firebombing the West Island and Westmount. Seperatists by my standards should be dealt with as terrorist or right-wing nuts similar to the Nazi's or white supremacists or dictatorship.


Posted by Alex on Nov-27-2006 04:34:

Nah you're putting them in a much worse light than they deserve Jesse!

Besides, Boisclaire is a tool, he thinks that Harper is assisting him with this statement, whereas in truth the Bloc is the only party that isnt 100% supporting this notion (They changed the wording slightly), making it one of the most unified decisions the parliament has ever made

Fuck the world, not Quebec and Canada.


Posted by julien2 on Nov-27-2006 04:36:

quote:
Probably arrest you for speaking english. Close down any school that teaches english. Probably hire the FLQ to start firebombing the West Island and Westmount. Seperatists by my standards should be dealt with as terrorist or right-wing nuts similar to the Nazi's or white supremacists.


i hope this is sarcastic because if its not you obviously have no historic notions.

The Quebec separatist mouvement is one of the most (if not the most) peaceful movement in the history of separatist movements. Nothing compared to ETA or the IRA

The anglophones have (because of historical socio-economic situation) been the elite of the province, position which they now share with the Francophones. That fact is undeniable. Anglophones are a great addition to the diversity found in Montreal


Posted by Alex on Nov-27-2006 04:40:

Well dont write the seperatist movement off as THAT peaceful I mean yes it is probably the most (or one of the most) peaceful, but they did kidnap a british diplomat, and they did kill a politician (The FLQ that is) and it got to the point where Martial law was declared on Montreal, so yeah...


Posted by jester on Nov-27-2006 04:58:

I'm just fed up about hearing about these seperatist assholes I am a quarter french, my mom side 100% french and they can not stand these ******s, it will only help a certain amount of people and fuck over everyone else.

Honestly I don't see how much better Quebec will be if it was its own nation.

Plus a certain part of what I posted before i was being sarcastic (but just slightly), if I pissed off any Bloc supporters or wtv oh well sorry. Thats politics!

I just want the Liberals back in power.

Would be nice another referendum in Quebec ... the seperatist win ... i hope Canada invades Quebec or destroy all of Quebec city with all the seperatists Only way that wont happen if Quebec City becomes protected under UNESCO LOL ... probably which it already is.


Posted by malek on Nov-27-2006 05:31:

quote:
Originally posted by jesteraver
If Quebec became its own nation and still not part of Canada, Quebec would be a 3rd world country. Quebec not industrialized enough by my standards for it to go at it alone. Honestly how many more businesses will now move to Ontario. Also imagine the new laws the Quebec government would put into place. Probably arrest you for speaking english. Close down any school that teaches english. Probably hire the FLQ to start firebombing the West Island and Westmount. Seperatists by my standards should be dealt with as terrorist or right-wing nuts similar to the Nazi's or white supremacists or dictatorship.




shut the fuck up, what kind of retarded shit are you posting, you should be banned just for that post!


Posted by malek on Nov-27-2006 05:42:

And here's a list of countries which Quebec surpasses in economy size, in fact if Quebec was independant, it would sit at #27 spot, for a small 7.5 million state that is very good.

Denmark
South Africa
Greece
Ireland
Finland
Portugal
Argentina
Hong Kong
Venezuela
Israel
United Arab Emirates
Czech Republic
Singapore
Chile
New Zealand
Egypt

and our per capita gdp is 19th in the world comparable to France, Germany or Italy, are these countries poor?


Posted by Alex on Nov-27-2006 05:50:

I agree with you Malek.

Quebec would be able to survive on its own, Paul Martin was an idiot for saying Quebec was too small to make it...

Cough Republic of Ireland cough, similar situation to ours, cough cough.

That being said I dont want Quebec to seperate.


Posted by malek on Nov-27-2006 05:59:

Quebec is not ready yet for separation, we need to make some cleaning in the house first. Our economy is the most diverse in Canada and the people well educated (except retarded jess who would be the first to arrive in toronto).

Its in the best interest of both Canada and Quebec to make this happen and get it over with and go on with our separate paths.

Smaller and more disorganized countries made it happen, I don't see why we can't make it work over here.


Posted by Alex on Nov-27-2006 06:52:

I still think its impossible that this will happen, the Federal government likes leaving Quebec hanging on the edge of the seperation cliff, that way they get career and popularity boosts from the asshats in parliament when they start talking unification blah blah blah.

The only Prime Minister of Canada that has to date ever given a shit about Quebec staying part of Canada has been Brian Mulroney, hard to believe given how much of a jerk/pompous assface/lying punk this guy was, but shite he ACTUALLY DID CARE. I suggest trying to dig up that CBC special where they have all his phone conversations with a certain media guy taped and played, he sincerely did care about Quebec staying a part of Canada.


Posted by malek on Nov-27-2006 14:11:

staying in the cliffhanger position is not good for the province and Montr�al.

We're better off brake loose, work hard and make it work than stay in that annoying limbo. At the end it'll be worth it.

Small is beautiful.


Posted by Enjoy on Nov-27-2006 14:41:

Haha, Malek the rebel.


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-27-2006 15:59:

I hope we separate and Quebec becomes a third world country. Would make my life easier.


(this was a joke for those who were wondering... )



United Canada ftw.


Posted by julien2 on Nov-27-2006 16:12:

Marcus: You have stated some events done by extremists. Name others. None others. Thank you for sharing

jesterraver: You lack teh knowledge. Thank god you listen to good music

I for one is not a big fan of separatism, i think there are problems to deal with before.

However, I dont see how this country can remain united in the next 100 years. I think separation of Quebec is unavoidable.

It will be done anyways. I just hope it will be done when our economy is better (it is going well, as malek stated, but could be better)


Posted by malek on Nov-27-2006 16:22:

we are already acting as an independant state in some domains, but we need to affirm ourselves more and more and take hard decisions to make our economy more competitive.


Posted by 404 Science on Nov-27-2006 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
Our economy is the most diverse in Canada and the people well educated (except retarded jess who would be the first to arrive in toronto).


pwned


Posted by 404 Science on Nov-27-2006 16:35:

i think if quebec seperates they should build a bridge to europe and make it part of the EU.

that would be pwnage.


Posted by malek on Nov-27-2006 16:45:

quote:
Originally posted by 404 Science
i think if quebec seperates they should build a bridge to europe and make it part of the EU.

that would be pwnage.


in my fantasy-pr0n dream Quebec would apply to the EU instead of NAFTA and adopt EU constitution.

EU companies would establish in Quebec because of the laws and legal framework and the proximity to the US.

only a dream


Posted by Marcus007 on Nov-27-2006 17:01:

quote:
Originally posted by julien2
Marcus: You have stated some events done by extremists. Name others. None others. Thank you for sharing



dude

i've yet to post one thing in this thread...


Posted by Enjoy on Nov-27-2006 17:03:

haha


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-27-2006 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
dude

i've yet to post one thing in this thread...





Posted by ~*Stereohead*~ on Nov-27-2006 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
dude

i've yet to post one thing in this thread...



AAAAAAAAAAHahahahahaha, too funny...


Posted by julien2 on Nov-27-2006 19:50:

HAHA got messed up with your avatar and alex's

sorry guys, i rarely check the names, just avatars, and being new here....

hehe


mega



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