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Posted by 404 Science on Nov-28-2006 18:28:

Quebec National Hockey Team

Anyone wondering what this whole nation within a nation means...

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Sovereigntist lawyer seeks Harper help for Quebec nation hockey team

Norman Delisle, Canadian Press
Published: Tuesday, November 28, 2006

QUEBEC (CP) - Sovereigntist lawyer Guy Bertrand says Quebec needs its own hockey team as much as any other nation.

Bertrand, who wants Quebec to field a team for the world hockey championships in 2008, said Monday all the political talk swirling around these days about Quebec forming a nation is just more ammunition for people who support his idea.

He made his remarks just hours before the House of Commons was to vote on a motion by Prime Minister Stephen Harper to recognize Quebec as a nation within Canada.

"It would be a serious error on behalf of Canada and all Canadians to believe that the assertion that Quebec is a nation does not have any interpretative scope, either in the courts or at the level of sports," Bertrand told a news conference.

The lawyer invited Harper to help convince Hockey Canada to ensure a Quebec team hits the ice for the 2008 event, which will be held in Quebec City as part of celebrations to mark the provincial capital's 400th anniversary.

"After voting in Parliament that Quebecers form a nation within a united Canada, you have the chance to show that the Team Quebec project conforms to this affirmation," Bertrand said.

"Here is a good chance to put into practice what you believe."

Bertrand also said that a lack of support for the Quebec team idea by Harper could cost the Conservatives "thousands of votes" in Quebec in the next election.

Hockey Canada has repeatedly rejected the idea of a Quebec team, saying the best Canadian players are chosen to defend their country regardless of their origin.

Bertrand wrote the Hockey Canada officials earlier this month asking them to reconsider their rejection.

He has suggested in vain several ways to Hockey Canada for Quebec to participate in the championship, including Quebec sending its own team or determining who plays through an elimination round between Quebec and Canada.

The lawyer, who is once again proclaiming his sovereigntist faith after embracing federalism for several years, said Quebec's status at the hockey championship should be the same as the province has at UNESCO - Canada is the sole participant but there are two spokesmen, Canada and Quebec.

"It's not true that the word 'nation' is only symbolic," said Bertrand, adding that Quebec has the essential characteristics of a nation - a language, a culture, a territory and a government.

Elsewhere in the world, the United Kingdom lets Scotland and Wales take part in international sporting events under their own name while the United States also allows the participation of Puerto Rico in certain international tournaments.
� The Canadian Press 2006


Posted by Motionpicture on Nov-28-2006 18:46:

Jesus.


Posted by malek on Nov-28-2006 18:58:

Just a matter of time, Wales, Scotland and North Ireland all have their own respective soccer teams.


Posted by all-nite-freak on Nov-28-2006 19:00:

stupid politics.
better to field 1 good team than 2 diluted ones


Posted by Marcus007 on Nov-28-2006 19:09:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
Just a matter of time, Wales, Scotland and North Ireland all have their own respective soccer teams.


Ok seperatist... :P


Posted by malek on Nov-28-2006 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
Ok seperatist... :P


pirate!


Posted by malek on Nov-28-2006 19:16:

btw, this has been in the works for a while now.

the media is trying to sensationalize it by playing on the current frustration of Canadians.


Posted by Zeiter on Nov-28-2006 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
Just a matter of time, Wales, Scotland and North Ireland all have their own respective soccer teams.


scotland:
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en...w.html?team=sco

northern ireland: http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en...w.html?team=nir

wales:
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en...w.html?team=wal


Posted by Enjoy on Nov-28-2006 19:25:

thats what he said


Posted by Zeiter on Nov-28-2006 19:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Enjoy
thats what he said


erm yeah ...i was just putting links


Posted by Enjoy on Nov-28-2006 19:29:

yeah stfu u edited ur post u noob


Posted by Zeiter on Nov-28-2006 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Enjoy
yeah stfu u edited ur post u noob


so?


Posted by Spin Laden on Nov-28-2006 19:31:

I saw this idea already in the Globe and Mail a few months ago.. the team would be pretty potent... Malek would be the coach judging by that signature

Bring back Les Nordiques I say. Yeah, Team Quebec would own in goal but I think after that it would be in Team Canada's favour over Team Visors

EDIT: taken from that article I read 'while back

Goal: Martin Broduer, Roberto Luongo, Jose Theodore

Defence: Eric Desjardins, Denis Gauthier, Patrice Brisebois, Stephane Robidas, Francis Bouillon, Matthieu Dandenault

Forward: Mario Lemieux, Vincent Lecavalier, Martin St. Louis, Simon Gagne, Alex Tanguay, Patrice Bergeron, Daniel Briere, Pierre-Marc Bouchard, Marc Chouinard, Mike Ribiero, Ian Laperriere, Luc Robitaille

Note the retirees here? Then you got Marc Savard and also Dion Phaneuf, though the latter was named on the Anglo team (and he wears a visor too... laugh out loud)


Posted by LiGHT78 on Nov-28-2006 21:30:

Definately not for separation, but I'd love to see a Quebec hockey team in action. We'd destroy.

Don't forget Patrick Marleau and so many others I'm sure I can't think of right now.


Posted by malek on Nov-28-2006 21:33:

guy guy guy latendresse

st-louis, gagn�, bri�re would destroy


Posted by LiGHT78 on Nov-28-2006 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
guy guy guy latendresse

st-louis, gagn�, bri�re would destroy


Brodeur and JS Giguere in nets...Patrick Roy comes out of retirement lol

Nobody would come close.


Posted by High on PSI on Nov-29-2006 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by LiGHT78
Definately not for separation, but I'd love to see a Quebec hockey team in action. We'd destroy.

Don't forget Patrick Marleau and so many others I'm sure I can't think of right now.


he's from somewhere in saskatchewan from what i remember.


and dion phaneuf is from edmonton.


Posted by LiGHT78 on Nov-29-2006 05:45:

quote:
Originally posted by High on PSI
he's from somewhere in saskatchewan from what i remember.


and dion phaneuf is from edmonton.


Right you are.

I just assumed cuz of the name.

My mistake.


Posted by alec on Nov-29-2006 14:23:

The difference is that Scotland and Ireland (not sure about Wales) are different countries than England. They are all grouped in as the United Kingdom. So this wouldn't exactly be the same. Besides we've seen how good those diluted teams have played in recent years.

This would be more like when the USSR was together making a Kazakh team to compete on its own. Which of course never happened.


Posted by 404 Science on Nov-29-2006 14:27:

quote:
Originally posted by alec
The difference is that Scotland and Ireland (not sure about Wales) are different countries than England. They are all grouped in as the United Kingdom. So this wouldn't exactly be the same. Besides we've seen how good those diluted teams have played in recent years.

This would be more like when the USSR was together making a Kazakh team to compete on its own. Which of course never happened.


Borat for head coach


Posted by Spin Laden on Nov-29-2006 18:30:

hiyeeee five... Borat make romance inside girl


Posted by alec on Nov-29-2006 18:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Laden
hiyeeee five... Borat make romance inside girl


Liquid explosion.


Posted by PIPER3112 on Nov-29-2006 23:59:

c niaiseux tout ca

moi je crois sincerement que harper a pose cette motion pour faire plaisir a gilles et le quebec mais dans le fond sa change rien au point de vue pays, les jeux olympiques,le scott tournament of hearts etc......


Posted by malek on Nov-30-2006 01:00:

de tous les aspects d'une nation tu nous chies le scott tournament of hearts

ayoye man


Posted by PIPER3112 on Nov-30-2006 14:00:

hahahaha

ctait pour rire malek,

peut-etre pour les tournois de flechette aussi



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