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Farmer battles dumb milk law
This law kind of reminds me of the same kind of law that they tried to pass to ban sushi.
If these guys want to buy this milk, why shouldnt they be able to?
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| TORONTO (CP) - A hunger-striking Ontario farmer who ran afoul of decades-old legislation forbidding the sale of raw milk found himself at the centre of a standoff with police and public health authorities Tuesday when they surrounded a bus from which he sells organic food. Michael Schmidt said he had parked his bus in a suburban parking lot north of Toronto when he found himself surrounded by a phalanx of police officers and public health inspectors. He refused to let police board the bus because they did not have a search warrant. "They kind of stood around the whole bus for probably over an hour," Schmidt said. "Finally, they left." The show of force came one week after Schmidt's farm near Durham, Ont., about 45 kilometres south of Owen Sound, was raided last week by Ministry of Natural Resources inspectors - a raid that has made him a cause celebre for those who favour natural foods. He's also become a lightning rod for the anger of farmers who say they're fed up with heavy-handed bureaucracy. Schmidt, 52, hasn't consumed anything but water and raw milk since the raid, and said he intends to keep up his week-old hunger strike until authorities return his confiscated equipment and promise to leave him alone. "This is a battle out of principle. This is a battle that people gain respect again for the farmer," he said. "When there is a law which is unjust and which claims that the milk is OK as long as the farmer drinks it, but the milk is dangerous as soon as it crosses the road, that law doesn't make sense." Schmidt, who came to Canada from southern Germany 24 years ago, was scheduled to spend Wednesday - Day 7 of his hunger strike - making his case at a downtown Toronto restaurant owned by celebrity chef and supporter Jamie Kennedy. Schmidt's farm was raided last week by 20 armed Ministry of Natural Resources officers; he blames "ego-tripping bureaucrats" for what he considers an excessive show of force. He said he'll remain on his hunger strike until he's reimbursed for his losses, authorities agree to leave him alone and everything taken from his farm is returned. "It's every citizen's responsibility to oppose an unjust law," he said. "It's a moral responsibility from responsible citizens." Canadian health authorities say unpasteurized milk can contain potentially lethal E. coli, salmonella or other dangerous organisms. Federal law prevents the sale or giving away of unpasteurized milk in Canada, and Ontario's own Milk Act contains a similar ban. "There has been a law in Ontario that any milk sold to the public has to be pasteurized that's been on the books since the 1930s," said Agriculture Minister Leona Dombrowsky. "It's important that it's there. It's there for a good reason." Proponents say raw milk offers health benefits, and is safe as long as the farmer is careful in its handling. Following his last run-in with authorities in 1994, when he was convicted, Schmidt changed his tack to take advantage of a loophole in the Milk Act that allows farmers to drink raw milk from their own cows. He now has 150 cow-shareholders - each buys a share of a cow for $300, and pays $2 a litre for the milk their animal produces - which include members of Ontario Finance Minister Greg Sorbara's family. Shareholder Judith McGill, of Richmond Hill, Ont., just north of Toronto, called the bust "outrageous." "We prefer to buy our foods through farmers; we want to have a relationship with the farmer," McGill said. "This is a foolproof system: to buy food from people you know and trust." The Ontario Landowners Association, a group that aims to preserve a rural way of life it sees as increasingly under attack, has also rallied to Schmidt's cause. "This is just another example of government's thirst to control each and every aspect of people's lives in this country and creating regulations that provide no value to anybody," association president Randy Hillier said from near Ottawa. "We are not going to take this intrusion and this removal of our freedoms lightly. We are going to stand and defend ourselves." Members and fellow farmers were ready to guard Schmidt's farm should authorities try another raid, Hillier said. Schmidt said he was flabbergasted by the day-long raid that he said left him feeling as if he were a dangerous criminal. "This time it was an army attack, literally," Schmidt said. "It's just milk!" |
if people want to drink raw milk, they should be able to and be able to obtain it IMO. But the risk of the diseases in milk should be theirs.
My grandpa was a farmer, and way back when, they could only sell so much milk (cuz of quotas or whatnot). Anything over that amount had to be flushed down the drain....what a waste....especially when you look at the hunger in the world!
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| Originally posted by devnull if people want to drink raw milk, they should be able to and be able to obtain it IMO. But the risk of the diseases in milk should be theirs. My grandpa was a farmer, and way back when, they could only sell so much milk (cuz of quotas or whatnot). Anything over that amount had to be flushed down the drain....what a waste....especially when you look at the hunger in the world! |
yummy
Milk in and of itself is starting to really gross me out.
There is something so unnatural about it.
www.notmilk.com
I find the idea of milk absolutely repulsive. Drinking some other animals breast milk that isn't biologically designed for the human body? Riiiight. I'd rather drink human milk. Besides, there are FAR better sources of "calcium" out there, and the benefits of cow milk are far more driven by dairy industry push-tactics than they are based on truth.
^^ That is what I am getting at. It is scary to think how milk was pushed on children as healthy - even essential - when it is definitely not the latter and questionably the former.
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| Originally posted by Elendil I find the idea of milk absolutely repulsive. Drinking some other animals breast milk that isn't biologically designed for the human body? Riiiight. I'd rather drink human milk. Besides, there are FAR better sources of "calcium" out there, and the benefits of cow milk are far more driven by dairy industry push-tactics than they are based on truth. |
I'm not one to push other to drink or not drink milk. I will eat yoghourt myself, but don't drink or buy milk (I buy soy and use it exclusively for protein shakes)
AFAIK:
- we are the only animal on earth who drinks milk in adulthood (i.e. beyond developmental years)
- we are the only animal on earth who drinks the milk of other animals
suffice to say then...mild consumption is not "natural". While that doesn't make it "bad", it should at least cause people to pause and think for themselves if they *should* drink milk.
milk is also enriched (as is soy milk, I know). natural milk, on it's own, really isn't *that* nutritious and anything in enriched milk, including calcium, can be found in other natural sources.
as for the topic at hand. Let them buy their milk from the farmer...and let them assume the health risks.
The law against selling non-pasteurized milk has been on the books for decades and the farmer has merely taken advantage of a loophole by selling shares or whatever to allow people to buy it directly from him, as "co-owners" of the cows (i.e. he's not "selling" them the milk)
I don't approve of the tactics being used against the farmer though...that's *way* overboard and authorities should address the loophole, if this situation is deemed *that* problematic.
lol.. hey if he's gonna pay his medical bills when he gets sick from dfrinking raw milk, then go nutz, but somehow i believe the rest of us will be footing the bill..
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| Originally posted by Elendil I find the idea of milk absolutely repulsive. Drinking some other animals breast milk that isn't biologically designed for the human body? |
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| Originally posted by Platipus lol.. hey if he's gonna pay his medical bills when he gets sick from dfrinking raw milk, then go nutz, but somehow i believe the rest of us will be footing the bill.. |
maybe the reaction of the government was heavy-handed, but laws are there to protect society. so you say society doesn't want to be protect in this case? people can choose to drink this milk and its their own risk if they do (and our tax-dollars)
what if a mother buys the milk assuming all risks and feeds it to her children. they didn't make the active and education decision to drink possible harmful milk
sorry, but no sympathy for your cause jay.
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 with that way of thinking i hope you never get injured recreationally. Why should i pay your bills for a ski accident, unprotected sex, eating unhealthy, etc etc etc? |
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| Originally posted by spitty maybe the reaction of the government was heavy-handed, but laws are there to protect society. so you say society doesn't want to be protect in this case? people can choose to drink this milk and its their own risk if they do (and our tax-dollars) |
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| what if a mother buys the milk assuming all risks and feeds it to her children. they didn't make the active and education decision to drink possible harmful milk |
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| sorry, but no sympathy for your cause jay. |
Is this Raw Milk being produced in Ontario or Canada?
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| Originally posted by Misanthrope Is this Raw Milk being produced in Ontario or Canada? |
OMGWTFBBBQ!!!1!! /sarcasm
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Isn't that the same thing? |
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| Originally posted by Misanthrope thank you captain obvious! now who is going to answer my question? |
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| A hunger-striking Ontario farmer... |
moo
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Well...If I have to keep pointing things out....that's my job... |
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| Originally posted by Misanthrope well finally. that would have saved you a post. |
lol at milk bashers
without milk we would not have half the products that we consume on a daily basis
I LOVE MILK. I have what could be a unhealthy addiction to milk, but at least I know my bones are strong.
Now bash away.
The Ontario Government is funny.
They tell people not to drink raw milk based on the fact that, if not handled properly, it can contain E.Coli and other disease-causing agents.
Instead, they want us to drink pasteurized milk, which, no matter how it's handled, has been linked to causing stomache and intestinal cancer. (The chemicals used to 'clean' the milk specifically, not the milk itself)
Oh boy ^_^ I'm glad the Government is on MY side!
afk for a minute - I don't drink milk, so I'm going to buy a pack of cigarettes to keep the Government happy
Ok back.
I drank raw milk when I was in Guatemala for 3 months when I was 12. I HATE milk, but when I was in Guatemala, I could drink it. Raw milk has a much fuller and more natural taste, there isn't that bleachy aftertaste in the back of my throat like I get from milk here in Canada.
Raw milk is ok as long as it's handled properly and the cows are healthy. Instead of banning it, the farms that sell raw milk should be regulated and inspected from time to time to ensure safety, rather than removing the rights of people who want milk without the cancer.
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| Originally posted by Misanthrope thank you captain obvious! now who is going to answer my question? |
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