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Posted by LazFX on Dec-01-2006 10:32:

Disembowelled, then torn apart: The price of daring to teach girls

Man in Afghanistan is disemboweled, torn limb from limb with motorbikes, then his remains are put on display as a warning to others against defying Taliban orders to stop educating girls. Welcome back guys
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The gunmen came at night to drag Mohammed Halim away from his home, in front of his crying children and his wife begging for mercy.

The 46-year-old schoolteacher tried to reassure his family that he would return safely. But his life was over, he was part-disembowelled and then torn apart with his arms and legs tied to motorbikes, the remains put on display as a warning to others against defying Taliban orders to stop educating girls.

Mr Halim was one of four teachers killed in rapid succession by the Islamists at Ghazni, a strategic point on the routes from Kabul to the south and east which has become the scene of fierce clashes between the Taliban and US and Afghan forces.

The day we arrived, an Afghan policemen and eight insurgents died during an ambush in an outlying village. Rockets were found, primed to be fired into Ghazni City during a visit by the American ambassador a few days previously.

But, as in the rest of Afghanistan, it is the civilians who are bearing the brunt of this conflict. At the village of Qara Bagh, the family of Mr Halim are distraught and terrified. His cousin, Ahmed Gul, shook his head: "They killed him like an animal. No, no. We do not kill animals like that, it would be haram. They took away a father and a husband, they had no pity. We are all very worried. Please go now, you see those men standing over there? They are watching. It is dangerous for you, and for us."
Fatima Mushtaq, the director of education at Ghazni, has had repeated death threats, the notorious "night letters". Her gender, as well as her refusal to send girls home from school, has made her a particular source of hatred for Islamist zealots.

"I think they killed him that way to frighten us, otherwise why make a man suffer so much? Mohammed Halim and his family were good friends of ours and we are very, very upset by what has happened. He came to me when the threats first began and asked what he should do. I told him to move somewhere safe. I think he was trying to arrange that when they came and took him," she said.

The threats against Ms Mushtaq also extend to her husband, Sayyid Abdul, and their eight children. "When the first letters arrived, I tried to hide them from my husband," she said. "But then he found the next few. He said we must stand together. We talked, and we decided that we must tell the children. So that they can be prepared, but it is not a good way for them to grow up."

Ms Mushtaq is familiar with the ways of the Taliban. During their rule she and her sister ran secret schools for girls at their home. The Taliban beat them for teaching the girls algebra.

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I just can't get this kind of behaivor, why isn't anyone other than the so called DEVIL WEST wanting to do anything about this? And IMO the west has not done enough! We should of never went into Iraq!! We should of just kicked the horse sh*t out of the Taliban and all its little side projects...... that poor man, just for wanting to educate.
Wow.... in a very sad and depressed way


Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Dec-01-2006 12:24:

Re: Disembowelled, then torn apart: The price of daring to teach girls

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Originally posted by LazFX
We should of never went into Iraq!! We should of just kicked the horse sh*t out of the Taliban and all its little side projects......


Couldn't agree more.


Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-01-2006 12:27:

The Taliban has a shitty interpretation of Islam. I have a friend that lived in Afghanistan and she told me a story about how the old Afghani police used to break women's bones if they were insubordinate. She's a huge feminist, so she blames the men, and not the religion, which makes sense to me.


Posted by euclid on Dec-01-2006 14:53:

Re: Disembowelled, then torn apart: The price of daring to teach girls

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Originally posted by LazFX
I just can't get this kind of behaivor, why isn't anyone other than the so called DEVIL WEST wanting to do anything about this? And IMO the west has not done enough! We should of never went into Iraq!! We should of just kicked the horse sh*t out of the Taliban and all its little side projects...... that poor man, just for wanting to educate.
Wow.... in a very sad and depressed way


Yeah, that's sick. You know that they also stone girls to death for _being_ raped? Apparently sex before marriage (for women) is punishable by death, even if it's brutally forced.

Afghanastan is the real "war on terror". That's why it gets so little money and attention from the US government. If there was a true humanitarian agenda behind that war, we would be doing much more to prevent garbage like this from happening. Unfortunately that's not the USA's prime concern. Iraq is the war for a US dominated world after the earth's oil production begins to decline from it's current peak/plateau.

Don't believe me? Go to PNAC's website, read their agenda, then look at who wrote the agenda and who's REALLY in power in the US currently. The Noeconservative agenda is being very obvoiusly carried out in front of our eyes.

Whether that's bad or good depends on your perspective, I personally would gladly lower my standard of living a few notches to reduce current strife and prolong the propagation of our race. But whatever.

Shit's going to get even more messy within the next decade.


Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-01-2006 15:29:

Re: Re: Disembowelled, then torn apart: The price of daring to teach girls

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Originally posted by euclid
Don't believe me? Go to PNAC's website, read their agenda, then look at who wrote the agenda and who's REALLY in power in the US currently. The Noeconservative agenda is being very obvoiusly carried out in front of our eyes.


I BLAME BILDERBERG AND THE ILLUMINATI!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-01-2006 15:54:

im waiting for shaolin or cyrus to blame this on israel...


Posted by euclid on Dec-01-2006 16:18:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Disembowelled, then torn apart: The price of daring to teach girl

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Originally posted by Q5echo thread it if you want just don't hi-jack this one


Good point, post deleted. I'll let this thread get back to it's intended direction and you get on with your "life".


Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-01-2006 16:32:

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Originally posted by euclid
Good point, post deleted. I'll let this thread get back to it's intended direction and you get on with your "life".


ok I'll do just "That"


Posted by Lilith on Dec-01-2006 20:56:

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Originally posted by Marc Summers
She's a huge feminist, so she blames the men, and not the religion, which makes sense to me.


Maybe, more likely its the simple reason that educated people are the greatest opponents of tyrany because they can see the real reasons for the woes being inflicted on them and weigh them accordingly. Educated people know when theyre getting screwed because they know it doesnt always have to be 'like that' and can resist.


Posted by LazFX on Dec-01-2006 21:36:

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Originally posted by Lilith
Maybe, more likely its the simple reason that educated people are the greatest opponents of tyrany...


and thats why they did it IMO. They want to keep the "everyman" stupid so that they cannot question thier rule. Allah forbid if a woman actually realizes that she does not need to take the shit these types dish out. Or god forbid, they actually see that the story of Creation that the mullah taught is just a rewrite of Gigalmesh's, a pagan story of the act of creation. Or that the they actually can change their life through education.


Posted by Cyrus King on Dec-02-2006 00:39:

Re: Disembowelled, then torn apart: The price of daring to teach girls

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
Man in Afghanistan is disemboweled, torn limb from limb with motorbikes, then his remains are put on display as a warning to others against defying Taliban orders to stop educating girls. Welcome back guys SOURCE

I just can't get this kind of behaivor, why isn't anyone other than the so called DEVIL WEST wanting to do anything about this? And IMO the west has not done enough! We should of never went into Iraq!! We should of just kicked the horse sh*t out of the Taliban and all its little side projects...... that poor man, just for wanting to educate.
Wow.... in a very sad and depressed way


Before September 11th, nobody gave a flying fuck what the taliban did. Now people are crying and yelling for afghani's. You know whats sad... is that the US temporarily kicked taliban ass.. but they have another mess on their shoulders.. so they dont care about afghnistan now. Taliban has become stronger.

I think the Taliban were far worse than Saddam


Posted by Cyrus King on Dec-02-2006 00:40:

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
im waiting for shaolin or cyrus to blame this on israel...


See this is the shit that i cant stand... YOU WANT ME TO THINK THIS...


Posted by LazFX on Dec-02-2006 01:17:

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Originally posted by Cyrus King
See this is the shit that i cant stand... YOU WANT ME TO THINK THIS...

No Cyrus it just what 99.8% of us on TA expects from the resident TA jew/us hater known as CyrusKing. Or is it that obvious that even something like this, you would find it easier to complain about the US rather than actualy find fault. As your previous post just now, you once again blamed or faulted the US rather than find this act terrible.
what a pathetic excuse for a human. FOAD you POS!


Posted by Cyrus King on Dec-03-2006 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
No Cyrus it just what 99.8% of us on TA expects from the resident TA jew/us hater known as CyrusKing. Or is it that obvious that even something like this, you would find it easier to complain about the US rather than actualy find fault. As your previous post just now, you once again blamed or faulted the US rather than find this act terrible.
what a pathetic excuse for a human. FOAD you POS!


You are such a sad being.

There you go again... you WANT me to hate jews and americans (even though my cousins are born and raised there - Texas and California to be exact).

Find FAULT????

YOUR GOVERNMENT SUPPORTED THE TALIBAN YOU DOUCHE BAG... REMEMBER THAT!


Posted by LazFX on Dec-03-2006 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
You are such a sad being.

There you go again... you WANT me to hate jews and americans (even though my cousins are born and raised there - Texas and California to be exact).

Find FAULT????

YOUR GOVERNMENT SUPPORTED THE TALIBAN YOU DOUCHE BAG... REMEMBER THAT!

DOUCHE BAG?? Wow, resort to name calling when someone points out that you are so full of shit? thats all you have Cyrus??


Posted by Cyrus King on Dec-03-2006 22:18:

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Originally posted by LazFX
DOUCHE BAG?? Wow, resort to name calling when someone points out that you are so full of shit? thats all you have Cyrus??


This is coming from someone who hates all muslims, arabs and persians, or anything remotely related to the Middle east. Stop being a hypocrite, bigot


Posted by metalgearsolid on Dec-03-2006 22:22:

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Originally posted by Cyrus King
This is coming from someone who hates all muslims, arabs and persians, or anything remotely related to the Middle east. Stop being a hypocrite, bigot
And you are the one who hates anything remotely related to America. You need to shut the fuck up and leave this place. Take PKC with you. you both need a little eye opening experience into the way the world works.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Dec-03-2006 22:25:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
And you are the one who hates anything remotely related to America. You need to shut the fuck up and leave this place. Take PKC with you. you both need a little eye opening experience into the way the world works.


Counter example: I don't recall Cyrus hating me or Occrider.

Case closed.


Posted by metalgearsolid on Dec-03-2006 22:32:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Counter example: I don't recall Cyrus hating me or Occrider.

Case closed.

Neither me. But he did once call Chicago women ugly. Which was very very wron for him to say. He hasn't seen the beauties I have seen or dated. And he said Toronto is a better city than Chicago. Which is also not true.


Posted by Cyrus King on Dec-03-2006 22:35:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
And you are the one who hates anything remotely related to America. You need to shut the fuck up and leave this place. Take PKC with you. you both need a little eye opening experience into the way the world works.


How do i hate anything remotely related to America??

I spent New Years eve in NYC partying to PVD, Visit my cousins every year in California, Ohio, and Texas, and am going to Miami this year for WMC!!!!

You need to shut your yankee ass hat mouth up becuase you cant take the fact that someone actually is voicing thier opinion about your terrorists government and actually MAKING SENSE!


Posted by Cyrus King on Dec-03-2006 22:36:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Neither me. But he did once call Chicago women ugly. Which was very very wron for him to say. He hasn't seen the beauties I have seen or dated. And he said Toronto is a better city than Chicago. Which is also not true.


AWWWWW...did i hurt your feelings!!! ahahahahahahaha


Posted by metalgearsolid on Dec-03-2006 22:38:

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Originally posted by Cyrus King
WMC!!!!

!
WMC=?


Posted by Purple on Dec-03-2006 22:57:

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
WMC=?


Winter Music Conference/Festival or something...


Posted by LazFX on Dec-04-2006 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
This is coming from someone who hates all muslims, arabs and persians, or anything remotely related to the Middle east. Stop being a hypocrite, bigot


Oh yes Mr Cyrus, I do, thats why I have met Shaolin Z before and OMG!! I even bought him a beer. Dude please shut up, I have broken bread with all types, so please keep digging a little more.


Posted by Q5echo on Dec-04-2006 00:58:

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Originally posted by LazFX
i have broken bread with all types


what about Asians?


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