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Posted by bluelimitd on Dec-04-2006 00:41:

What comes after beatmatching?

So I've been mixing for almost a year now, and generally have a good idea on how to beatmatch and can do it fairly consistently. That being said, I feel like I've hit a wall in terms of skill progression and was wondering what else I should work on besides beatmatching? What are the essential elements to being a skilled DJ and what is the next step for me? This thread could help other DJ's that are in similar situations as well..

Cheers,
Tyler

Posted by Factor VIII on Dec-04-2006 00:47:

I would say work on harmonic mixing and effects. I'm still getting beatmaching down. There are songs that are easy to mix. Then some that are impossible.

Posted by nrjizer on Dec-04-2006 00:49:

Work on your Jesus pose.

Posted by ZeJayMan on Dec-04-2006 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
Work on your Jesus pose.

Posted by Alex on Dec-04-2006 02:10:

Hahahahaha, jesus pose for suuuuuuuuuuuure.

But apart from that, uhh, fist pumping... The advanced standing on the decks Jesus pose and using 30+ pounds of pressure to switch basslines. All those are nessecary to make the top200.

Posted by Nsonic on Dec-04-2006 02:32:

you can always try beatmatching on-the-fly, that is, starting a track when you want it to start (without having beatmatched it), then beatmatching while you're mixing. it forces you to beatmatch very quickly before you start to bring the song in

Posted by miamitranceman on Dec-04-2006 03:01:

Workin' the eq's during the transition.

Posted by D-res on Dec-04-2006 03:31:

I say it goes:

Beatmatching
Phrasing
EQing
Harmincs

Posted by nrjizer on Dec-04-2006 04:08:

quote:
Beatmatching
Phrasing
EQing
Harmincs

Don't listen to that, none of those things will help you be a successful DJ. Technical ability doesn't matter.

After you're getting good with your Jesus pose, you need to build a strong PR department to boost your DJ Mag rating. Make sure to take lots of pictures of yourself looking away from the camera into the distance with a melodramatic face.

Posted by Beatflux on Dec-04-2006 04:19:

Posted by bluelimitd on Dec-04-2006 04:50:

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
I say it goes:

Beatmatching
Phrasing
EQing
Harmincs

Where can I read tutorials on phrasing, EQing, and harmonics?

Posted by DannyO on Dec-04-2006 05:16:

Posted by JohnPaullino on Dec-04-2006 05:44:

quote:
Originally posted by bluelimitd
Where can I read tutorials on phrasing, EQing, and harmonics?

http://www.recess.co.uk/beginning.html

Posted by D-res on Dec-04-2006 05:47:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnPaullino
http://www.recess.co.uk/beginning.html

yup

Posted by julien2 on Dec-04-2006 05:47:

you need tiesto in your extended network on myspace.

Posted by bluelimitd on Dec-04-2006 05:49:

Woooo another funny Tiesto joke!

Posted by phyrrus on Dec-04-2006 06:59:

I think working on your song selection is pretty important, at least when you start getting gigs. I hadn't really had any experience mixing outside the bedroom til I got this radio show, then once I was standing at the decks playing for all these people I found it kinda hard to decide how to plan out my mix, by which I mean deciding which song had the right elements to follow what I was playing. also, I think knowing how to transition smoothly between genres is important, like going from trance to breakbeat or something.

Posted by gsfg on Dec-04-2006 09:28:

If u are ok with the beatmatching thing

Try when ur mixing 2 tunes to use the eq's. Especially bass changes will improve ur mixes.

Also try to mix a tune into another on the correct spots ( u can mix anywere-there are no rules but just be sure that it sounds good on ur speakers)

And a last thing if u are able try to record ur mixes during practising. This will help u alot because u will be able to understand ur mistakes
Hope i helped a bit
good luck

Posted by Stu Cox on Dec-04-2006 15:04:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
Don't listen to that, none of those things will help you be a successful DJ. Technical ability doesn't matter.

After you're getting good with your Jesus pose, you need to build a strong PR department to boost your DJ Mag rating. Make sure to take lots of pictures of yourself looking away from the camera into the distance with a melodramatic face.

Yep, and definitely make sure you've got a graffiti'd up brick wall behind you in the pics. Or stare straight at the camera and only use half of your face if it's for an album cover.

Does anyone know of any good Jesus pose tutorials on the net anywhere?

Posted by BOOsTER on Dec-04-2006 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by bluelimitd
Where can I read tutorials on the jesus pose?

fixed

Posted by bluelimitd on Dec-04-2006 17:33:

Alright....all this talk of the jesus pose....let's see some pics!!

Posted by BOOsTER on Dec-04-2006 18:32:

Posted by Zild on Dec-04-2006 18:37:

track selection, track selection, track selection, track selection

Posted by bluelimitd on Dec-04-2006 19:09:

Ok, track selection

Is there anywhere to read a "conventional" way to structure a set? For example, you would not want to drop an uplifting track after an uplifting track after an uplifting track, etc.

Posted by BOOsTER on Dec-04-2006 20:10:

reading the crowd helps with track selection a lot...

I'm not too good at it...but my electronic nights here go like from house to progressive trance to some melodic trance...maybe some tech and hard...from that to breakbeat etc...

but sometimes I will totally change it if the people aren't enjoying it...obviously...

actually every night is different and there's no other rule that you have to enjoy it and your audience has to...

when one of these elements is missing the night will suck ...

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