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Posted by jspoi on Dec-04-2006 15:36:

Storing CUE points etc on CDJ1000s

Ok, I'll admit, I'm standing in front of my CDJ's feeling like an absolute fool - and kinda thing I should just ask my 8 year old brother if he can show me what to do - but I can't work out the memory section of the CDJ's at all.

The manual isn't really condusive to letting you know what to do in order to store the cue point, and then come back to it, knowing what tune it's from (I guess I'm talking Hot-Cue points here, rather than starting points).

Is there anywhere/anyone that has the patience to give me an idiots guide on how I set the point to memory, then how i recall it? Following the suggestions in the manual just doesn't do it for me.

Oh, and can someone else tell me why/how to change the fact that one of my 1000's autoplays (i stick in the CD, it starts playing, and will carry on playing through all the tracks) and the other one, I need to press play in order to start it. Sounds odd - but the fact one auto plays, and the other doesn't can get quite annoying.

And lastly... why do some MP3's show the peak wave data while they're playing, yet others don't register it. It doesn't seem to be a CBR/VBR thing, as both tend to do it, or don't do it. I know that MP3's don't pre-read like wav's - but I'd like to know why some do and some don't.

I'm using the Mk111's, and I updated the firmware - and all these issues still remain.

Sorry for the long message, only just found this place, and you all really seem to know what you're on about - so I'd love it if you could help me out on this.

Ta'much.

JsPOI


Posted by Zombie0729 on Dec-04-2006 16:21:

on my laptop at school but there is a button somewhere on the top left that says "Auto Cue ----" hold down that button to enable auto cue(when you pop in a CD it will make a cue for you).

or hold it down to release it.

about the cue points, you can save 3 hot cue's per CD that can be saved to internal memory or your memory card. which one did you want to do it to?


Posted by jspoi on Dec-04-2006 17:30:

Hi there.

Thanks for taking the time out of school to reply!

I think I've got Auto-Cue turned on - or don't I, and that's what's not (and is) auto-playing the CD? Man, I feel 40 years old...

As for the Hot-Cues, I thought I was able to set a whole load for each CD, so I could jump around from track to track if I wanted to - or even have 10 different cues set for each track on the CD. Is that not correct?

Or when you said 'per CD' - are you assuming there's only one tune on the CD - as in my case, I tend to have 10 or 20 on each.

Ta for the help so far though.

JsPOI.


Posted by nec on Dec-04-2006 17:52:

If cd auto-plays then you have auto cue turned off.. Just hold the button autocue left on the top if you want to change the option.

If you want to save cue points, set cue point and press memory button. Then you can move left and right betwen cues with < > call buttons.


Posted by DJRecess on Dec-04-2006 19:02:

I think I get what this fella's on about.

I've only had my CDJ's for a couple of months, so sorry if this is wrong (man I'd be embarrassed) but here goes:

For each track on the CD you play, you'll see a number on the display. So, if you have 10 tracks, you'll see the numbers 1-10. Find a cue point on a track (let's say it's track 7) and then press 'Memory'. Number 7 will now have a line underneath it - to show it's got a CUE saved. However, you don't have to leave it at that. Say there's another part of the track (20 secs in for example) that you want to set to get to - find that point, and set the cue for there - you'll see another red mark will be above the green line at the bottom of the display (the line then gets smaller from left to right as you play through the tune). This way, you can have multiple cue points for each track on the CD (there'll be loads of red marks above the green line to show this).

You can save loads of these cue points to the one track, and then use the 'Call' button to get from track to track and from cue point to cue point.

As to HOT-CUE's - you get three of them for the entire CD - not for each track. So, you can set the three hot cues - and update them throughout the CD as you use it - and those three hot cues will still be active the next time you stick in the CD (though it will take a second or two to read the Hot-Cue point the first time you press it).

So, in summary - you can set as many Cue points in a track that you like, and use the Call button to get to each one, but they're not instant like the Hot Cue - (well, the last one you activated is - but you can't instantly activate number 10 when you're on number 3 unless it's set as a hot cue).

And, you can set 3 Hot-Cues per disc (Green for a cue, yellow for a loop) update them as you wish, and the last three you set will be retained the next time you stick in the CD.

This '3 Hot Cues to a disc' malarky is a good reason not to load the CD up with 100 tunes. Even if you have 10 folders with 10 tracks each, if you set a Hot Cue in 'Folder 1' and are currently playing from Folder 2 - when you press that Hot Cue button, it'll just say something like "HOT CUE FOLDER 01" to let you know you have to be in that folder to activate it.

Good luck with it all, I hope this was accurate! I'll check on my CDJ's when I get home, just to be sure, but if anyone wants to correct this, please do!!


Posted by Jarvmeister on Dec-04-2006 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by DJRecess
I think I get what this fella's on about.

I've only had my CDJ's for a couple of months, so sorry if this is wrong (man I'd be embarrassed) but here goes:

For each track on the CD you play, you'll see a number on the display. So, if you have 10 tracks, you'll see the numbers 1-10. Find a cue point on a track (let's say it's track 7) and then press 'Memory'. Number 7 will now have a line underneath it - to show it's got a CUE saved. However, you don't have to leave it at that. Say there's another part of the track (20 secs in for example) that you want to set to get to - find that point, and set the cue for there - you'll see another red mark will be above the green line at the bottom of the display (the line then gets smaller from left to right as you play through the tune). This way, you can have multiple cue points for each track on the CD (there'll be loads of red marks above the green line to show this).

You can save loads of these cue points to the one track, and then use the 'Call' button to get from track to track and from cue point to cue point.

As to HOT-CUE's - you get three of them for the entire CD - not for each track. So, you can set the three hot cues - and update them throughout the CD as you use it - and those three hot cues will still be active the next time you stick in the CD (though it will take a second or two to read the Hot-Cue point the first time you press it).

So, in summary - you can set as many Cue points in a track that you like, and use the Call button to get to each one, but they're not instant like the Hot Cue - (well, the last one you activated is - but you can't instantly activate number 10 when you're on number 3 unless it's set as a hot cue).

And, you can set 3 Hot-Cues per disc (Green for a cue, yellow for a loop) update them as you wish, and the last three you set will be retained the next time you stick in the CD.

This '3 Hot Cues to a disc' malarky is a good reason not to load the CD up with 100 tunes. Even if you have 10 folders with 10 tracks each, if you set a Hot Cue in 'Folder 1' and are currently playing from Folder 2 - when you press that Hot Cue button, it'll just say something like "HOT CUE FOLDER 01" to let you know you have to be in that folder to activate it.

Good luck with it all, I hope this was accurate! I'll check on my CDJ's when I get home, just to be sure, but if anyone wants to correct this, please do!!


Thats an awesome reply, which i read with interest, my 1000s are on their way and I found that information really useful, and will refer back to it when it comes to getting to grips with them in the first couple of days. Thanks!

Jarv


Posted by DJRecess on Dec-04-2006 21:34:

Thanks man, that's really kind of you. Let's hope people respond to my book in the same way!

I'm going to shift this info onto my website, and do some video clips to accompany it too - once I shoot Steve Jobbs for being part of the fiasco that is Final Cut Pro...


Posted by Jarvmeister on Dec-04-2006 21:45:

No worries. Look forward to checking the book out!

Slightly off topic, but I didn't feel it was worth creating a new thread for, so here we go:

CDJ1000s. Whats in the box? Essentially I need to know wether you get the digital cable in order to hook up to the DJM800 digitally, or wether that has to be purchased separately?

Any info will be good.

Cheers

Jarv


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Dec-04-2006 22:25:

digital cables are not included in the box...

its the power supply, control cable, cdj, RCA cable, manual and thats it


Posted by Jarvmeister on Dec-04-2006 23:01:

Whats the cable called? There must be a name for it, like you get XLR, RCA etc.

Jarv


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Dec-04-2006 23:18:

which cable? digital cables? there are many types but the ones that you can run from your cdjs to the djm800 are SPDIF coaxial


Posted by Omega_Blue on Dec-05-2006 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
digital cables are not included in the box...

its the power supply, control cable, cdj, RCA cable, manual and thats it


the power supply is actually attached to the cdj. it's one thing i don't like about the denon's.


Posted by jspoi on Dec-05-2006 08:03:

quote:
Originally posted by DJRecess
I think I get what this fella's on about.

I've only had my CDJ's for a couple of months, so sorry if this is wrong (man I'd be embarrassed) but here goes:

For each track on the CD you play, you'll see a number on the display. So, if you have 10 tracks, you'll see the numbers 1-10. Find a cue point on a track (let's say it's track 7) and then press 'Memory'. Number 7 will now have a line underneath it - to show it's got a CUE saved. However, you don't have to leave it at that. Say there's another part of the track (20 secs in for example) that you want to set to get to - find that point, and set the cue for there - you'll see another red mark will be above the green line at the bottom of the display (the line then gets smaller from left to right as you play through the tune). This way, you can have multiple cue points for each track on the CD (there'll be loads of red marks above the green line to show this).

You can save loads of these cue points to the one track, and then use the 'Call' button to get from track to track and from cue point to cue point.

As to HOT-CUE's - you get three of them for the entire CD - not for each track. So, you can set the three hot cues - and update them throughout the CD as you use it - and those three hot cues will still be active the next time you stick in the CD (though it will take a second or two to read the Hot-Cue point the first time you press it).

So, in summary - you can set as many Cue points in a track that you like, and use the Call button to get to each one, but they're not instant like the Hot Cue - (well, the last one you activated is - but you can't instantly activate number 10 when you're on number 3 unless it's set as a hot cue).

And, you can set 3 Hot-Cues per disc (Green for a cue, yellow for a loop) update them as you wish, and the last three you set will be retained the next time you stick in the CD.

This '3 Hot Cues to a disc' malarky is a good reason not to load the CD up with 100 tunes. Even if you have 10 folders with 10 tracks each, if you set a Hot Cue in 'Folder 1' and are currently playing from Folder 2 - when you press that Hot Cue button, it'll just say something like "HOT CUE FOLDER 01" to let you know you have to be in that folder to activate it.

Good luck with it all, I hope this was accurate! I'll check on my CDJ's when I get home, just to be sure, but if anyone wants to correct this, please do!!


Sorry to refocus this onto my OP for a second (lol) but I just wanted to say thanks to all of you for helping on this - especially Recess - I've not had a chance to go through what you said in practise, but i'm looking forward to using the CDJs with the knowledge that now I know what I'm doing!

Sory to seem dense here, but what book are you on about?

JsPOI


Posted by DJRecess on Dec-05-2006 18:29:

No worries, I'm here to try to help.

the book? Gotta be careful talking about it on here, as I don't want it to sound like advertising, but it's DJing for Dummies. (for the people who make Windows for Dummies etc).

Looking at your wee flag, it looks like you're in the UK - in which case, it's out now(ish). Should be in shops by Friday - and Amazon should have it today/tomorrow.

Glad i could help (both of you) - good luck with the CDJ's JsPOI and Jarv.


Posted by Jarvmeister on Dec-05-2006 19:05:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
which cable? digital cables? there are many types but the ones that you can run from your cdjs to the djm800 are SPDIF coaxial


Yep - those ones. Cheers SPAWNmaster.

I take it these will do the trick:

http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/t...tml?id=Bz6ACLRS

Or, are there any recommended ones for high quality?

Cheers

Jarv

PS Cheers for the luck Recess, and good luck to you too.


Posted by DJRecess on Dec-05-2006 22:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister


PS Cheers for the luck Recess, and good luck to you too.


thanks - I need it! I"m currently reading through the copies they gave me, and they're riddled with errors!!

(well, three so far - each one I'd asked them to change.)

1) They spelt my sister-in-law's name wrong!
2) Scratching chapter - there's a diagram of the orientation of a turntable for scratching - when you look at it, the tone-arm isn't going the right way
3) Cutting beats (still in scratching chapter) the beat-diagram for this is complete nonsense.

I'm updating my website with this info, and will stick up what it should be for the time being - but it looks as though the first run of books will have a few errors. There's a reprint after Christmas, when I get a chance to change it all - but it's a massive embarrassment for me (as far as I'm concerned).

On the bright side though - the ones that are out now could become collector's editions.... Or am I thinking too much?

I could'a died when i saw the scratching errors....

R


Posted by Jarvmeister on Dec-05-2006 22:34:

I'm sure it'll all be fine - you're bound to be a little nervous to start!

Jarv



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