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Posted by shaolin_Z on Dec-05-2006 06:41:

Bush Admin Chief Economist for US Dep. of Labour Says U.S. Government Behind 9/11

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Dr. Morgan Reynolds, Ph.D, is professor emeritus at Texas A&M University and former director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis headquartered in Dallas, TX. He served as chief economist for the United States Department of Labor during 2001--2002, George W. Bush's first term. In 2005, he gained public attention as the first prominent government official to publicly claim that 9/11 was an "inside job," and is a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. This interview footage was recorded in June 2006 at the Chicago 9/11 Truth conference.



Posted by Q5echo on Dec-05-2006 07:14:

well i guess thats it then

my god Z, wtf?

that was the lamest rambling garbage i've yet heard on this subject.

i wonder what happened at that debate?


Posted by LazFX on Dec-05-2006 07:16:

Can't watch til I get home.


Posted by Q5echo on Dec-05-2006 07:27:

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
Can't watch til I get home.


yeah, hurry up. it 's a real gem this one.


Posted by LazFX on Dec-05-2006 07:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
yeah, hurry up. it 's a real gem this one.


ha ha


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-05-2006 08:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
yeah, hurry up. it 's a real gem this one.




my connection is slow today so im still waiting for the vid to load, but i did a bit of searching and this guy is repeating all the same rubbish the really crazy crazies are fond of repeating. check this out

quote:

The engineering establishment�s theory has further difficulties. It is well-known that the hole in the west wing of the Pentagon, less than 18-foot diameter, was too small to accommodate a Boeing 757, but the North Tower�s hole wasn�t big enough for a Boeing 767 either, the alleged widebody airliner used on AA Flight 11 (officially tail number N334AA, FAA-listed as "destroyed"). A Boeing 767 has a wingspan of 155� 1" (47.6 m) yet the maximum distance across the hole in the North Tower was about 115 feet (35 m), a hole undersized by some 40 feet or 26 percent.


and then theres these

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1. Fire had never before caused steel-frame buildings to collapse except for the three buildings on 9/11, nor has fire collapsed any steel high rise since 9/11.
2. The fires, especially in the South Tower and WTC-7, were small.
3. WTC-7 was unharmed by an airplane and had only minor fires on the seventh and twelfth floors of this 47-story steel building yet it collapsed in less than 10 seconds.
4. WTC-5 and WTC-6 had raging fires but did not collapse despite much thinner steel beams (pp. 68�9).
5. In a PBS documentary, Larry Silverstein, the WTC lease-holder, recalled talking to the fire department commander on 9/11 about WTC-7 and said, "�maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it," slang for demolish it.
6. FEMA, given the uninviting task of explaining the collapse of Building 7 with mention of demolition verboten admitted that the best it could come up with had "only a low probability of occurrence."
7. It�s difficult if not impossible for hydrocarbon fires like those fed by jet fuel (kerosene) to raise the temperature of steel close to melting.


link

same stuff that has been shot down time and time again.

and ill add the next sentence that appears on wiki (where shaolin's brief bio of dr reynolds seems to originate) that isn't included here.

quote:

A number of researchers questioning the official account of 9/11 have expressed concern over Reynold's theory that commercial jets were not involved in the WTC attacks.


now, dont get me wrong im really going to watch this vid when it has loaded, but the guy sounds like a pretty "out there" kinda guy.


Posted by Lilith on Dec-05-2006 08:10:

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
now, dont get me wrong im really going to watch this vid when it has loaded, but the guy sounds like a pretty "out there" kinda guy.


Some of the 911 doco's are full of some pretty 'out there' people and the rest are full of other people who rabbit on about physics, chemistry, explosives and engineering which I just can't pick through with any kind of educated opinion. I'm even less likely to absorb it through a medium like a TV documentary because a lot of these things tend to have their 'bias' so, calling it a documentary is fairly generous.
That and I'm feeling kind of mentally exhausted today so I really don't want to sit through another hour or so of people belting around the issue and until I see one of the 'docos' presented by a non-american, neutral party, it'll just be one of those 'mysteries of the deep' things that happened.


Posted by Purple on Dec-05-2006 09:16:

Their is hell lot of similarities between Bush and current administration and Hitler and his administration..

1)Both used 'dirty' politic to win, I mean real dirty.. like threating people who opposed them or speak the truth.. they both won not because people chose them, but because these two people snubbed the voice of people who opposed them.. if you watch Farenhite 9/11 first 15 mins will tell you how Bush did it. Bush had eggs on his Limo during the very 1st day at office, during the predential victory rally..


2)Both run secret prisons and try to convince people that its necessary.. one was to save Germany from Jews, todays its to save US from Muslims..

3)Both has introduced Bill in parliament asking for basic civil rights to be stripped of.. like entering a house, searching, tapping any phone, arresting anyone anytime..

4)I had lot more, is slipping from my mind but will post as soon as I recall..


Looking at above similarities, between Hitler and Bush, I cannot rule 9/11 is not an inside job.. remember Hitler burned his own party office and headquaters to stay in office.. he sent his own men to burn the very important historical monument in Germany so that he can stay/come back in power... this is the same thing Bush did. This is the fifth point.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Dec-05-2006 09:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
well i guess thats it then

my god Z, wtf?

that was the lamest rambling garbage i've yet heard on this subject.

i wonder what happened at that debate?


[redundant] Not that I agree with your views on 9/11 [/redundant], but I can see why you'd say that now. I'll admit I didn't watch it before posting it (since the soundcards for the Lab terminals on campus don't work). Apparently it didn't exactly turn out to be what I expected eigther. Still kind of unexpected to hear that from someone who served the administration though.


Posted by Q5echo on Dec-05-2006 10:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
Their is hell lot of similarities between Bush and current administration and Hitler and his administration..

1)Both used 'dirty' politic to win, I mean real dirty.. like threating people who opposed them or speak the truth.. they both won not because people chose them, but because these two people snubbed the voice of people who opposed them.. if you watch Farenhite 9/11 first 15 mins will tell you how Bush did it. Bush had eggs on his Limo during the very 1st day at office, during the predential victory rally..


2)Both run secret prisons and try to convince people that its necessary.. one was to save Germany from Jews, todays its to save US from Muslims..

3)Both has introduced Bill in parliament asking for basic civil rights to be stripped of.. like entering a house, searching, tapping any phone, arresting anyone anytime..

4)I had lot more, is slipping from my mind but will post as soon as I recall..


Looking at above similarities, between Hitler and Bush, I cannot rule 9/11 is not an inside job.. remember Hitler burned his own party office and headquaters to stay in office.. he sent his own men to burn the very important historical monument in Germany so that he can stay/come back in power... this is the same thing Bush did. This is the fifth point.


wow, i'm at a real loss for words here. this is a truly mind-boggling and fascinating allegory

the depth of insight is astonishing. it's almost like hearing Beethoven for the first time, only reading it on my computer screen

i'm almost convinced "Purple" is a front of Lindsay Lohan. if only i could see Purple's tits.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Dec-05-2006 15:46:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
[redundant] Not that I agree with your views on 9/11 [/redundant], but I can see why you'd say that now. I'll admit I didn't watch it before posting it (since the soundcards for the Lab terminals on campus don't work). Apparently it didn't exactly turn out to be what I expected eigther. Still kind of unexpected to hear that from someone who served the administration though.

Do you really think that a chief economist in the Department of Labor is someone who's that high up that he'd actually know anything? If he knows "the truth," shouldn't there be hundreds of others who would be more privy to classified info than he is, and thus should know as well?

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
Their is hell lot of similarities between Bush and current administration and Hitler and his administration..

1)Both used 'dirty' politic to win, I mean real dirty.. like threating people who opposed them or speak the truth.. they both won not because people chose them, but because these two people snubbed the voice of people who opposed them.. if you watch Farenhite 9/11 first 15 mins will tell you how Bush did it. Bush had eggs on his Limo during the very 1st day at office, during the predential victory rally..


2)Both run secret prisons and try to convince people that its necessary.. one was to save Germany from Jews, todays its to save US from Muslims..

3)Both has introduced Bill in parliament asking for basic civil rights to be stripped of.. like entering a house, searching, tapping any phone, arresting anyone anytime..

4)I had lot more, is slipping from my mind but will post as soon as I recall..


Looking at above similarities, between Hitler and Bush, I cannot rule 9/11 is not an inside job.. remember Hitler burned his own party office and headquaters to stay in office.. he sent his own men to burn the very important historical monument in Germany so that he can stay/come back in power... this is the same thing Bush did. This is the fifth point.

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
Purple, you are a walking advertisement for abortion. Why don't you take a hike son?

Quoted again for emphasis. Your participation is a great disservice to any argument you're trying to push.


Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-05-2006 16:00:

Why isn't this is the news?


Posted by shaolin_Z on Dec-05-2006 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Do you really think that a chief economist in the Department of Labor is someone who's that high up that he'd actually know anything?


No. If you read my post...

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I'll admit I didn't watch it before posting it (since the soundcards for the Lab terminals on campus don't work).


...it should have been fairly easy to conclude that I posted it with out much thought. I've been in the lab all night working on a project and I still haven't slept. I just got back to my apartment a couple hrs ago or so to check this out, take a shower, eat, and head back again. So I'm not entierly sure what the hell I'm talking about rightnow eigther btw, but hopefully I'm making a little sense though.

The thread title isn't something I came up with, it's from youtube or wherever the original link was.

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
If he knows "the truth," shouldn't there be hundreds of others who would be more privy to classified info than he is, and thus should know as well?


Like I said, I hadn't the slightest clue what it was:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Apparently it didn't exactly turn out to be what I expected eigther.


Well, obviously he no "insider" in any sense I had imagined. It's just "some dude" who worked for the administration with an opinon. Do you really think I would have chosen to use the word "insider" for something like this?

Hopefully that was somewhat coherent, cuz my head is pounding rightnow.

I need a cigarette...


Posted by shaolin_Z on Dec-05-2006 16:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
Why isn't this is the news?



That I haven't slept.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Dec-05-2006 16:27:

Yeah, I normally don't have posts like this eigther:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Wow, I really hope you posted that here to put the spotlight on blatant anti-Muslim sentiment being propagated and pushed through the media, not something you actually took seriously . Eigher that, or you'd better be really wasted. Otherwise, I'm coming over to your place right this instant. A few giant rips off a 15 ft. hard glass bong with an ice filled chamber ought to chill you out. But you never know, perhaps it could backfire and cause paranoia intense enough to make you smash an awesome glass peice like that right on my head (I don't have a 15 ft. bong BTW; could have been a prized possession a few years ago, but that phase is long over ).


Posted by shaolin_Z on Dec-05-2006 16:27:

I need some fucking sleep... but I have to finish this shit up too.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Dec-05-2006 16:28:

Wow, I don't recall spamming my own threads before.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Dec-05-2006 16:34:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
No. If you read my post...



...it should have been fairly easy to conclude that I posted it with out much thought. I've been in the lab all night working on a project and I still haven't slept. I just got back to my apartment a couple hrs ago or so to check this out, take a shower, eat, and head back again. So I'm not entierly sure what the hell I'm talking about rightnow eigther btw, but hopefully I'm making a little sense though.

The thread title isn't something I came up with, it's from youtube or wherever the original link was.



Like I said, I hadn't the slightest clue what it was:



Well, obviously he no "insider" in any sense I had imagined. It's just "some dude" who worked for the administration with an opinon. Do you really think I would have chosen to use the word "insider" for something like this?

Hopefully that was somewhat coherent, cuz my head is pounding rightnow.

I need a cigarette...

I haven't watched the video either, I just responded based on his bio that you posted. From that, and I was willing to be corrected if I improperly assumed, it would seem that he should have no more information than any common man interested in the events.

Go get some sleep.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Dec-05-2006 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I haven't watched the video either, I just responded based on his bio that you posted. From that, and I was willing to be corrected if I improperly assumed, it would seem that he should have no more information than any common man interested in the events.

Go get some sleep.


Man, my brain barely functioning rightnow. I almost feel a bit drunk and stoned. No, I don't get wasted on campus. Adderal + no sleep + hours of debuggin code = shaolin_Retard. I hope I didn't fuck up my code . That would mean I spent an entire night being retarted and wasting 8 hrs. Man, I wonder what else I posted today. Maybe I posted in the COR, who know, I feel pretty fucking stupid rightnow. Ok, I can't type now... I have to turn in my other homework before I fall face first. Fckc,


Posted by shaolin_Z on Dec-05-2006 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I haven't watched the video either, I just responded based on his bio that you posted. From that, and I was willing to be corrected if I improperly assumed, it would seem that he should have no more information than any common man interested in the events.

Go get some sleep.


Well, I still haven't had a chance to sleep yet, but I fixed the title to suit the video/thread a little better.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Dec-05-2006 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Wow, I don't recall spamming my own threads before.


LOL!

I was going to mention that but I'm glad you picked up on it.

At least I know you don't go around talking to yourself in 3rd person...


Posted by colonelcrisp on Dec-06-2006 18:55:

do you know what is really funny, two years ago i had to take a stats course for my eng degree.... but, the stats course i was required to take was for business, political science, and economics majors...... IT TOOK THEM A FULL MONTH TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO CALCULATE AN AVERAGE!!.... they couldnt understand why you didnt divide the sum by the same number for different questions.


so from then on. when an economist gives his opinion. i turn my ears off.

i find it so frustrating that everyone takes the testimony and proof presented by the scholars for 911 truth so literaly when there isnt a single person in that organization who is qualified to analyze the colapse. there are two engineers i belive, one computer systems and one chemical. neither of which have any competancy in building dynamics. just because you have a degree in chemistry or physics does not make you competant on building analysis let alone building forensics. Hell to become a liscenced structural forensics engineer in canada requires two phd degrees on RELEVANT subject matter.

Until they have a qualified group of STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS who can provide a detailed report oulining how controlled deomlition / laser weaponry / subsonic frequency weapons / aliens from outerspace caused the WTC collapse, i dont buy any of it.

and if one more nutjob mentions "hydrocarbon fires do not get hot enough to melt steel" to me one more time, so help me god..., ill kill
him

for the last freakin time. you dont have to melt steel to get it to fail, merely get it to half temp (red hot) and for the record i can do that with a wood fire....... let alone burning kerosene......


Posted by shaolin_Z on Dec-07-2006 08:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
LOL!

I was going to mention that but I'm glad you picked up on it.

At least I know you don't go around talking to yourself in 3rd person...


Actually there were a few occasions I did that, but the circumstances were kind of similar too . What the fuck is wrong with me lately?



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