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Posted by the_transient on Dec-06-2006 06:49:

Trance: Why does it sound so terrible when played really loud?

Hello, kinda new to the forums, taking a chance at my very own thread (yay!). So the title says it all: Why does trance sound so crappy when you hear it really loud at a "party?" I've been to "parties" before where they've got the trance/house main room, a side room for jungle and a side room for hardcore. I've got to say, even though I love trance, it's more fun being in the jungle or hardcore rooms. I haven't been to a club yet because I just turned 21, so I don't know if they are any different.

When I play trance at home on my little sound system, it sounds great! You can hear all of the layering in the tracks, the individual melodies and beats, it's just fantastic! Then I go to a huge "party" and the same track sounds like crap. All I can hear is the *thump* *thump* and then a little *doodley* *doodley*, then back to *thump* *thump*. Jungle tracks sound so cool when the bass flares out and the beat rolls back in, and hardcore makes your head explode. Does trance suck because they play it in the main room and the sound system can't handle it? Maybe melodic trance doesn't lend itself to being played loud? Anyone in the know, please enlighten me.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-06-2006 07:17:

Some clubs and parties have crap sound systems and EQing, DJs who abuse the mixers and speakers, etc. Can leave things sounding pretty shitty. And yeah, it sucks.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-06-2006 07:19:

"Thump thump doodley doodley" sounds like an accurate description of the sound in many clubs.


Posted by Lilith on Dec-06-2006 07:25:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Some clubs and parties have crap sound systems and EQing, DJs who abuse the mixers and speakers, etc. Can leave things sounding pretty shitty. And yeah, it sucks.


That's basically it in a nutshell, someone leaving the EQ settings on 'doof doof' rather than a gentler spread across the range.


Posted by Nik Novo on Dec-06-2006 07:27:

Well, that depends on may things. Since trance usually uses a wide spectrum of high, mid and low frequency sounds, you need to setup the PA right, otherwise it just sounds shit. Then - like MrJiveBoJingles said - there's noob DJs who EQ the tracks to death or are too dumb to realize that their signal is clipping or whatever.

At last it also depends on what you declare as trance. If for you trance is recent stuff by Sean Tyas or Selu Vibra then I can assure you: They are also crappy when played on your home system


Posted by the_transient on Dec-06-2006 07:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
That's basically it in a nutshell, someone leaving the EQ settings on 'doof doof' rather than a gentler spread across the range.


Okay, so do the dj's not usually have access to the EQs? There must be some kind of main EQ not on the mixer then? I'd hope any respectable trance dj who knew it would sound like crap with the bass cranked all the way up would change the settings.


Posted by trancepunkk on Dec-06-2006 08:21:

ummm i didnt read that whole thing...but doesnt it usually sound better loud?


Posted by isoterra on Dec-06-2006 08:57:

sounds like you haven't been to the right clubs


Posted by trancepunkk on Dec-06-2006 10:34:

r u talking to me or him? cos if its me that wouldnt make much sense lol


Posted by ClearWater on Dec-06-2006 11:03:

trance in clubs blows... albiet i have only been to the shit clubs (edit: never been to big city club)


Posted by sterilis on Dec-06-2006 11:55:

quote:
Originally posted by ClearVision
trance in clubs blows... albiet i have only been to the shit clubs...


what age are 15? have you ever been to a club?

trance on a night out is what makes the night. anywhere ive been that plays house or r'n'b is shit. when i go out and trance is played the club lifts.


Posted by ClearWater on Dec-06-2006 11:57:

i went to two of the local clubs in spokane while i was there... they sucked.


Posted by sterilis on Dec-06-2006 12:03:

quote:
Originally posted by ClearVision
i went to two of the local clubs in spokane while i was there... they sucked... period.


sums up americas nightlife


Posted by sterilis on Dec-06-2006 12:16:

whats with all the multible posts

must delete them


Posted by isoterra on Dec-06-2006 12:37:

quote:
Originally posted by trancepunkk
r u talking to me or him? cos if its me that wouldnt make much sense lol

him


Posted by trancepunkk on Dec-06-2006 12:41:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_kane
what age are 15? have you ever been to a club?

trance on a night out is what makes the night. anywhere ive been that plays house or r'n'b is shit. when i go out and trance is played the club lifts.


depends on the club......all genre's can be equally as great if your into the music, they can be equally as bad aswell


Posted by sterilis on Dec-06-2006 13:08:

quote:
Originally posted by trancepunkk
depends on the club......all genre's can be equally as great if your into the music, they can be equally as bad aswell


yea this is true but even people who arent into trance when their at clubs they love it. ive never seen a better atmosphere at a club when trance is played.


Posted by trancepunkk on Dec-06-2006 14:29:

thats actually true..it doesnt work the other way round though ive seen for some reason i guess trance is just too awesome haha


Posted by julien2 on Dec-06-2006 15:23:

trance actually sounds bad when played. period.


Posted by Ian on Dec-06-2006 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by julien2
trance actually sounds bad when played. period.


go fuck yourself. nobody cares what a house-elitist such as yourself thinks.


Posted by trancepunkk on Dec-06-2006 15:27:

right..........

and by saying .period. your actually saying period period period


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Dec-06-2006 15:42:

quote:
Originally posted by julien2
trance actually sounds bad when played. period.

Your mom sounds worse when played.


Posted by julien2 on Dec-06-2006 15:42:

quote:
go fuck yourself. nobody cares what a house-elitist such as yourself thinks.


house-elitist ?

this is not the correct answer

please play again !

quote:
and by saying .period. your actually saying period period period


quote:
Your mom sounds worse when played.


omg mom jokes ! love those....do me again !


Posted by sterilis on Dec-06-2006 15:46:

quote:
Originally posted by julien2
trance actually sounds bad when played. period.



Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-06-2006 15:52:

quote:
Originally posted by julien2
trance actually sounds bad when played. period.


As opposed to?


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