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Posted by EarnYourKeep on Dec-06-2006 20:18:

PMP - Project Management Professionals

Does anyone else ever have to fill out these PMP goals in a yearly fashion? And every year there is this sort of test you have to give yourself to assess your progress on certain goals that have trickled down to you.

I'd like to hear what you think about the Project Management Self Assessments you have to go through in your work place. Even if you're just an assistant or play a vital role in a company, how do you feel about the whole 'goal' oriented position based companies. Don't get me wrong, you need goals and assessments in any type of company, but is there a way to do it easier without having the feeling of talking yourself up or down in any given assessment?

I personally hate it! It's probably the worst process that I've had to do the past 3-4 years. My yearly goals are never accomplished because they shift tremendously. I never am able to successful say I've succeeded past my goal (which you need to say when you're evaluated) to veto for a raise simply because I'm pulled in multiple directions. This year will change since I've been moved to a Special Projects Manager position away from a more focused job set. Hopefully I can use that as leverage for a pay raise, otherwise I'm moving on out...

Share you experiences about Self Assessment, PMP, or how you go about filling out your competency goals.

If none of this applies to you simply reply with - i'll send you $10 via paypal.


Posted by jdat on Dec-06-2006 20:21:

I was going to do the whole PMP PMI signup process ( yeah the basic first steps ) and today I just got my notice that my last final signup days were coming up.

Just need a freaking job where I can put in some PMP hours

I got some pmp material if you want some.


btw can't you reach the goal ( 1500 hours or something? ) over minimum 3 or 4 years?!
Don't sweat it ... you have time to complete the thing then again you may want to get the cert right away


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Dec-06-2006 20:25:

AH! You're talking about the real deal jdizzle my nizzle.

I'm talking about YOY goals at any given workplace. But the actual PMP you speak about is ultimately what I want to achieve. I had an ingcling you'd offer up some reading material. What's with you and e-books? lol is there something you aren't telling me. Stealing e-books from my company all the while I'm in charge or our digital asset management library. So you're stealing from me huh? That'll cost you you're pair of bacons...you can ship them right now!

lol

reading material sure..i'd love some


Posted by Ygrene on Dec-06-2006 20:26:

I complete a PMP - Performance Management Process worksheet twice/year. Mine is actually due to my boss on Monday. One of the things that I do is just keep a folder all year long of activities that are above and beyond what my normal job duties are, that's what I typically use to fill out my PMP. All my regular goals and acheivements that are inline with my job role go on there too but, I feel like that is just filler; that's the MINIMUM requirements for my role, I feel.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Dec-06-2006 20:30:

Ok so you're twice a year is a mid-year and end of year review? Mines is similar but I do little to record (or organize) for that matter. Any techniques when writing/filling out your pmp 'comments' and 'results' without making yourself sound like you're the Chuck Norris of the company?


Posted by jdat on Dec-06-2006 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
AH! You're talking about the real deal jdizzle my nizzle.

I'm talking about YOY goals at any given workplace. But the actual PMP you speak about is ultimately what I want to achieve. I had an ingcling you'd offer up some reading material. What's with you and e-books? lol is there something you aren't telling me. Stealing e-books from my company all the while I'm in charge or our digital asset management library. So you're stealing from me huh? That'll cost you you're pair of bacons...you can ship them right now!

lol

reading material sure..i'd love some



well I was confused with your post and I wasn't sure if you meant the actual PMI cert or if this an internal review procedure you have to undergo on a yearly basis.

Concerning the PMI cert I'm confused about the hours accounting. I believe you can take into account hours completed retro-active to your signup but for safety measures it's always better to get signed up as early as possible and start cashing in these hours.
Biggest issue is if you go to another company down the road it'll be more difficult for PMI to do retro-active PMP hours auditing with your old employer.

me and ebooks and training material etc .... lol you have no freaking idea about the kind of stuff you can find online do you?


Posted by Ygrene on Dec-06-2006 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
Ok so you're twice a year is a mid-year and end of year review? Mines is similar but I do little to record (or organize) for that matter. Any techniques when writing/filling out your pmp 'comments' and 'results' without making yourself sound like you're the Chuck Norris of the company?


The only thing I always make sure to do is to always qualify my actions by including a tangible result. I'll post up a screenshot real quick.



EDIT:

Bah, I thought it'd be easier to read.


Posted by eRRaTiK on Dec-07-2006 10:43:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
I got some pmp material if you want some.


electronic? hook a bruvva up.


Posted by butterfly on Dec-07-2006 10:48:

i don't have to do a self assessment, but i do have to write performance reviews for 15 people on how well they achieved their goals. Not a fun time of year...


Posted by jdat on Dec-07-2006 13:17:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
electronic? hook a bruvva up.



ebooks, training cds videos etc .... what you want?


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Dec-07-2006 13:42:

quote:
Originally posted by butterfly
i don't have to do a self assessment, but i do have to write performance reviews for 15 people on how well they achieved their goals. Not a fun time of year...


Want to write one up for me lol

ps-tahoe maui wowie! lets go!


Posted by Moral Hazard on Dec-07-2006 13:52:

I just did my self-assessment.... I hate them. I hate them primarally because the criteria on which we are to judge ourselves is largely inconsequential to our actual preformance. What maters in my line of work, ultimately, is client satisfaction. If the client is satisfied then they continue to give me work, if not they don't. Given that I have increased my billing by nearly 50% over the past year and managed to land two major new clients I'd say I had a banner year, however, since we're asked to judge ourselves based on mundane shit such as how quickly we return phone calls I'm not sure my success translates into the assessment. Ultimately, I elected to not give any quantitative answers and simply put in my "comments" section; "I'm $84,639 beyond my target revenue YTD, looks like I'm doing okay!"


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Dec-07-2006 14:22:

So you're saying you submitted a metric as your result to a skill competency? Which in all rights I can understand how a competency can result in an increased revenue number, just i find it hard to word it such that when it trickles through the approval process, i'm not either repeating what the competency asked me to demonstrate or blabbing off into a completely different direction. it's the wording that's giving me an issue because i feel like these assessments are created to either GLOAT yourself or say I'm a retard and I didn't practice customer satisfaction, did not address the customer with a goal oriented procedure, yadda yadda yadda.

To me it's a verbatim test, to read what they are asking you and respond in a keen way. It bothers me greatly because I believe myself to have a significant impact in this company (similar to how you say you are past xxx in revenue), yet I'm being quizzed on assessing personal skills that should be uniform through out the company. Why can't we give monetary figures as our results, partly due to the size of the company, management is more concerned about personal development meanwhile they are the ones who are putting in these figures as their own goals.



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