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Suggested New Forum

Right,

I think we all know it's got to the stage where we're pretty tired of seeing all these threads regarding what do I buy etc etc.

How about a new forum: New Equipment Advice and DJ Startup Advice

This way all the stuff that bores us daily can go there, and discussion relating to proper matters at hand can be dealt with here - still including such areas as:

New Technology
Technique
Experiences
Ideas and Concepts
Recommendations
and the list goes on......

But basically create another forum in the 'DJing / Production / Promotion' called 'New Equipment Advice and DJ Startup Advice' solely to handle just the sort of thing thats making this forum into a bit of a joke just lately.

With more and more people becoming interested in this technology now is the time to make some sort of change, otherwise the problem WILL get worse IMO.

Anyone want to second this motion???!

Jarv

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Nah - Bad idea. The kinds of things you're describing yourself as "sick of" pretty much make up the entire content of this forum. There's no need for a seperate forum, this one is just fine, and would probably die completely if we created the forum you're suggesting.

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Originally posted by RJT Nah - Bad idea. The kinds of things you're describing yourself as "sick of" pretty much make up the entire content of this forum. There's no need for a seperate forum, this one is just fine, and would probably die completely if we created the forum you're suggesting.

Thank you RJT for commenting. However, I disagree with you, the life and soul of this forum is not such posts as "What do I buy". I took a snapshot of topics at the exact time of writting, and I think you'll agree, most of them are great topics, and a handfull are the tedious beginner advice questions that we get all the time. Take a look:

pcv-275 [NEW EQUIPMENT ADVICE]
SSL 1.62 Prob.
Thinking in buying two cd decks [NEW EQUIPMENT ADVICE]
Recording Mixes
How is the headphone Technics RP-DH1200? [NEW EQUIPMENT ADVICE]
Small town, new sounds.
Your latest vinyl
Numark CDX opinions/comments [NEW EQUIPMENT ADVICE]
what is the point of 4 channel mixers
need some advice [NEW EQUIPMENT ADVICE]
Your latest tracklist
X-fi Platinum/FatalityFPS/Elite pro for DJ'ing/Recording?
Numark Axis 9 getting a lot of thumbs up [NEW EQUIPMENT ADVICE]
some older, not talked about mixers...
Beatport quirk
Cheapest Place for equipment? [NEW EQUIPMENT ADVICE]
X-fi Platinum/FatalityFPS/Elite pro for DJ'ing/Recording?
Ridiculous DJ names...
X-fi Platinum/FatalityFPS/Elite pro for DJ'ing?
help with decks...amatuer [NEW EQUIPMENT ADVICE]
I need help with Keyboard Controller [NEW EQUIPMENT ADVICE]
Starting out and buying vinyls [NEW EQUIPMENT ADVICE]
After beatmatching, should I return to song's intended original tempo?
DJing Artwork?
self taught vs. dj schools...

So thats approximately half. OK, so it cuts down on the total posts, but when the posts it cuts down on are so boring and repetative surely it's a good idea.....?

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister So thats approximately half. OK, so it cuts down on the total posts, but when the posts it cuts down on are so boring and repetative surely it's a good idea.....?

I don't now, it just may make things more confusing - And may detract from the quality of answers given to people. I would probably never go into a "New Equipment" forum, but now, if I see a new equipment thread where I am able to offer genuine advice, I generally post in it.

A lot of the more experienced folks in this forum may not make the effort to help the new folks in a different forum - If we keep it all together, odds are more people will be satisfied more consistently

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Originally posted by RJT odds are more people will be satisfied more consistently

Crikey you replied fast! I suppose I'm looking at it from the other end of the scale, thinking with all this stuff staying in here those of us like me are going to be disatisfied more often.

People aren't searching before they post. Is there any other answer - something needs to be done! But what - any other suggestions?

Jarv

although the posts are annoying, the forum hardly moves fast enough to warrant a separate forum.

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister People aren't searching before they post. Is there any other answer - something needs to be done! But what - any other suggestions? Jarv

It's a tricky problem m8 - Because you really run the risk of alienating people if you expect them to just understand a particular forums ettiquette before they begin posting. Many people sign up for TA solely for gear information, and this is their forum. Now, there are those of us who've been here and have no need for these comparison/new gear threads, but that means we can also just not read them.

Now, I do think we need to educate new folks to conduct themselves in a desirable manner, however I think that process is often times better taken care of as a matter of trial and error as opposed to simply expecting people to read a FAQ or Stickied thread.

Just $.02 - But I think the nature of this forum promotes the kind of threads you're looking to eliminate, and we're far better just dealing with/ignoring them than trying to affect a genuine change in the way the forum operates.

Jarv - Don't think I'm ragging you either m8 - It's great that you're thinking of ways to improve the forum, I've just got a bit of a different perspective on the issue

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Originally posted by RJT Jarv - Don't think I'm ragging you either m8 - It's great that you're thinking of ways to improve the forum, I've just got a bit of a different perspective on the issue

Absolutely, it's great when two people can have opposing points of view and discuss it in a grown up manner.

Well, as we agree, my view is on one side and yours is on another, and to be fair I'd not considered some of the factors you'd mentioned.

However, I think the problem will get worse, and it's only to be expected when a noob signs in and sees half the postings are beginner advice threads.

I see the issue snowballing.

Jarv

I know that I for one would definitely not make it a point to read or post in a forum dedicated to nood DJs and their equipment.

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Originally posted by Zild .....a forum dedicated to nood DJs and their equipment.

Amusing typo!

Yeah - me neither - although i might pop in from time to time, and some people are that way inclined, some people like to help and offer advice, a lot. Like SPAWNmaster - he loves helping people.

I thought the same as you about the track ID forum, who'd going to go in there except the people that want tunes ID'd? Turns out that on the 4 or 5 occasions I've posted an ID request in there some helpful soul has answered double quick, with the right answer.

I dunno - now I feel all mean and scrooge like, especially as it's Christmas!

Jarv

Noobs need to read the stickies.

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister Amusing typo! Yeah - me neither - although i might poop in from time to time, and some people are that way inclined, some people like to help and offer advice, a lot. Like SPAWNmaster - he loves helping people. I thought the same as you about the track ID forum, who'd going to go in there except the people that want tunes ID'd? Turns out that on the 4 or 5 occasions I've posted an ID request in there some helpful soul has answered double quick, with the right answer. I dunno - now I feel all mean and scrooge like, especially as it's Christmas! Jarv

See I think it will just be noobs helping noobs.

it could go either way, i think it could work, maybe just a sticky for 'equipment advice'?? someone should though do a count on how many 'what mixer should i buy' threads there has been in the last 2 months, lol.

Its not just about us. Us meaning the people with a little more experiance than the next guy. Like Zild said, it would be alot of less experianced people trying to help less experianced people. With the forum like it is set up now, it keeps it more mixed. There is something about helping someone out that wants help. You get a certain type of satisfaction out of it. And I have been helped by a thread that a noob has started before too. Its a two way street. I think by spliting the DJ Booth, you would be taking away from the forum. Just my thoughts.

Rock On,

Mike

It's a tough one to call & I agree with pretty much everyones arguments for & against a new forum. I'd probably lean towards leaving it as it is right now but it does get really feckin irritating seeing the same "what mixer/what starter set up/CDJ's or vinyl/what does a CDJ do" threads over & over

It always amazes me that people seem prepared to go out & spend best part of a thousand quid on DJ gear based on the opinion of a dumb fuck like me rather than spending a day in the city testing some equipment themselves

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Originally posted by Clovis Noobs need to read the stickies.

Yep.



Also, if anyone has any idea for new things to add to the stickies thread etc etc - let me know.



Also, I am against the addition of a new forum, for pretty much all the reasons RJT stated - it simply won't help anything.

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Originally posted by it could go either way, i think it could work, maybe just a sticky for 'equipment advice'?? someone should though do a count on how many 'what mixer should i buy' threads there has been in the last 2 months, lol.

Yes, a Sticky would be better than create a new forum.

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Originally posted by Pinokio Yes, a Sticky would be better than create a new forum.

We already have a "what cdj should I buy" thread in the general info sticky - would be neat to get a bunch up there, then I'll sort that sticky like it's been done in the Production Forum.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations We already have a "what cdj should I buy" thread in the general info sticky - would be neat to get a bunch up there, then I'll sort that sticky like it's been done in the Production Forum.

The thing is, you can sticky what you want - people just don't read them. Put a sticky up there saying NEW EQUIPMENT ADVICE, and I bet within a day you'll get someone asking what starter kit we can recommend.

Something has to be done. A little more agressive closing of unneccessary threads, with a pointer to the sticky?

Any suggestions?

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister The thing is, you can sticky what you want - people just don't read them. Put a sticky up there saying NEW EQUIPMENT ADVICE, and I bet within a day you'll get someone asking what starter kit we can recommend. Something has to be done. A little more agressive closing of unneccessary threads, with a pointer to the sticky? Any suggestions?

I'm trying to walk a fine line between being a passive and agressive moderators, making some changes, but for the most part just kinda letting things unfold...

I'm just gonna sit back and listen to reactions right now-

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