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Minimalism lacking direction?!

Bare with me now, long night.... but, I'm thinking about this right... and after listening to some "minima/ electro" sets, I really think the efforts (sets as a whole) are lacking true structure and direction. There are tons of gems out there that push the envelope and are truly original, but when I sit down for minimal and electro sets they seem shallow and often times predictible attempts at creating what a good mix should be. They are neither emotionally compelling, nor twisting and turning to directions unforseen. Take this as a drunken rant whathaveyou but I honestly feel this way about the two genres (often combined). I think there's loads of potential in them, so hence my frustration. Any thoughts, arguements against?

i dont think minimal can be really a direction or journey medium. You can have pretty much just a buncha great great tracks together that have nothing to do with eachother in a minimal set...programming minimal I would imagine is easy due to this......or maybe extremely hard if im wrong and minimal dj's actualy do program a directioned or journey set. That said what are some good Minimal tracks......Loco Dice was here this past weekend he rocked it.

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Originally posted by MoBreakz i dont think minimal can be really a direction or journey medium. You can have pretty much just a buncha great great tracks together that have nothing to do with eachother in a minimal set...programming minimal I would imagine is easy due to this......or maybe extremely hard if im wrong and minimal dj's actualy do program a directioned or journey set. That said what are some good Minimal tracks......Loco Dice was here this past weekend he rocked it.

I think there is definetely a journey involved-

whoa watch it with the 'minimalism'...steve reich will take you down

Steve Reich is amazing.

there's too much minimal for minimals sake at the minute
when you strip it down there needs to be a groove, and there's a million and one records out there that simply don't have it

Just like any other genre most of it is shit and it is really up to the DJ to find the songs that aren't shit and put them together in a coherent way. That said it is probably impossible to put together a great set of ONLY minimal music. Throw in some tech, throw in some prog, a little bit of funk.

I've heard some great minimal sets that definitely throw you on a journey.

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Originally posted by kush paintings They are neither emotionally compelling, nor twisting and turning to directions unforseen.

Hence the term......................................... minimal?

I'd say it falls into the "head-noddin' beats" category. I've never really had an emotional connection to any techno, though I like it for its roughness. Well, except the Detroit kind. Some beautiful strings there.

minimal and electro can be boring as fuck (minimal especially) when its all you hear in a set

Electro boring? Are you sure you know what you're talking about? Name some "electro" artists for me, and we'll see.

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Originally posted by stren minimal and electro can be boring as fuck (minimal especially) when its all you hear in a set

Where do you get your ideas from?

Anyway I agree, but just replace Minimal and Electro with (every kind of music ever made).

Wow. So many misperceptions, which one to address first?!?!

name some sets or post some links of great minimal sets, lets see

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Originally posted by zanzilanzi Where do you get your ideas from?

mostly my head.

I enjoy Electro, its the minimal i can't stand. Electro minimal sets with some exceptions are yawnfests

Name your 5 favorite electro records.

what was this thread about again ?

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Originally posted by Arsalan name some sets or post some links of great minimal sets, lets see

First, let's have a go at defining "minimal."

I'm all ears (eyes).

A proper party was key in my understanding of minimal. Montreal minimal scene wooohooooooo!

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Originally posted by Az there's too much minimal for minimals sake at the minute when you strip it down there needs to be a groove, and there's a million and one records out there that simply don't have it

the first line there fits so many genres mate. How many "trance" songs put you in a trance, how many tech-trance have any "tech" in them etc.

i think minimal is alright, but u really have to be in the mood for it.

for me, its one of them genres that would cater for the 'lounge music' or background noise if u may. couldnt headline a party for minimal

but i dont really follow minimal, im more of an ambient sorta guy myself

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Originally posted by Arsalan name some sets or post some links of great minimal sets, lets see

Richie Hawtin @ Mysteryland 2006

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Originally posted by Arsalan name some sets or post some links of great minimal sets, lets see

Hawtin's DE9:Transitions

Steve Bug @ Piknic Electronica

Lemme find the link to the set

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