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Posted by Xavi on Dec-13-2006 13:09:

synth patterns

Hey,

I have a question about synth patterns. People often talk about bass patterns and some common examples, but what about synth patterns? Do you just use the chop tool on your step sequencers, or do you make patterns yourself? And are there any common synth patterns amongst professionals?

Thanks.


Posted by System101 on Dec-13-2006 16:01:

lol... i thought music was about expressing yourself... not using everything that other people use.


Posted by vccv on Dec-13-2006 16:23:

I make my own with a midi keyboard or programming. But its always nice to be inspired from other peoples work and try out new ideas.

If u wanna see some patterns u can view one execellent bass thread here on tranceaddict:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=44854

or buy some pro patterns from Vipzone:
http://www.vipzone-samples.com/midimelodies.php

Or download some recreated pro patterns from:
http://www.nonstop2k.com/

Oh and here is another good thread on the subject:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&forumid=48&threadid=360771


Oh and there nothing wrong with gettin inspiration I mean y invent the wheel once more. But its not a good idea to copy a Tiesto cd or like patterns and presets named Tiesto and sell it as your own atleast not artistically, tho economically it just might pay off


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-13-2006 22:34:

How about er, not using patterns? You know, like actually writing music instead of a repeating loop?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-13-2006 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
How about er, not using patterns? You know, like actually writing music instead of a repeating loop?

Pfft, that's just a waste of resources. All that time you're spending doing a synth that just copies your favourite artist you could be practicing the jesus pose.


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-13-2006 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Pfft, that's just a waste of resources. All that time you're spending doing a synth that just copies your favourite artist you could be practicing the jesus pose.

That's true, but you could get even better productivity if you switch to eJay, that way you don't even have to search for loops, which frees up additional time not only to practice the Jesus pose but also to scratch your armpits and sniff your fingers a few times.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-13-2006 23:24:

LOL.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-13-2006 23:26:

"I like to think that where we are going is trying to compose totally horizontally. The vertical way of composing is the lazy way, where you just build stuff up and build stuff up, and then just bring them in and out. I think the way we work is so much more orchestrated, so that you can hear something that just happens, and you want it to carry on because it's so tantalizing, and you want to hear it again and again. We both understand the principle that if you put something beautiful into a piece of music just once, it makes people put the record back on because they want to hear it again."

- Mike Sandison, Boards of Canada


Posted by michaelconway on Dec-13-2006 23:45:

while yea you should always express yourself in your music. In music production there are rules certian fundamentals you really wouldn't want to avoid. Same thing in Gnres there are fundamental sounds and techniques producers use. LOL I dont think we would have had trance if people didnt try to copy eachother.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-13-2006 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by michaelconway
while yea you should always express yourself in your music. In music production there are rules certian fundamentals you really wouldn't want to avoid. Same thing in Gnres there are fundamental sounds and techniques producers use. LOL I dont think we would have had trance if people didnt try to copy eachother.

Then again we might still have decent trance if people didn't copy each other.


Posted by michaelconway on Dec-14-2006 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Then again we might still have decent trance if people didn't copy each other.


I was refering to the origins of trance, not where its been the past 2-6 years. I mean im not disagreeing with you, lately there has been well lets say lack of flavor. Biting of other people is how we evolve


Posted by david.michael on Dec-14-2006 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by michaelconway
I was refering to the origins of trance, not where its been the past 2-6 years. I mean im not disagreeing with you, lately there has been well lets say lack of flavor. Biting of other people is how we evolve


omg vampire


Posted by david.michael on Dec-14-2006 15:10:

quote:
Originally posted by michaelconway
while yea you should always express yourself in your music. In music production there are rules certian fundamentals you really wouldn't want to avoid. Same thing in Gnres there are fundamental sounds and techniques producers use. LOL I dont think we would have had trance if people didnt try to copy eachother.


There is a difference between inspiration and copying/bandwagoning.


Posted by vccv on Dec-14-2006 17:18:

Originality is a true virtue.

Wohoo I think I have found a quite unique way of processing bass.
Here is a clip of my latest truly original production under my new alias Lenny Enbassi:

http://www.bostream.nu/projektv/mus...i%20-%20Bam.mp3


Posted by michaelconway on Dec-14-2006 23:58:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
There is a difference between inspiration and copying/bandwagoning.


Your right there is a diffrence, but my point is to try and recreate other peoples work to gain some understanding and build your own inspired work. In other words gaining understanding through reverse engeneering, and implementing what you have learned in your own work. I don't recall what this thread was about now lol.


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-15-2006 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
There is a difference between inspiration and copying/bandwagoning.

Yes, there is: inspiration is an intangible concept, always talked about after the fact but nowhere to be found when you're "looking" for it. It's the title that many artists, good and bad alike, ascribe to their hours upon hours of hard work after forgetting just how tedious and frustrating those hours really were.

Plagiarism, on the other hand, is a very tangible concept.


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Dec-15-2006 02:07:

There's a pro melody button in every DAW, but you have you pay more to get it.

Before you get that money, you have to come up with your own melodies. Sorry.



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