New Jersey Approves Same-Sex Civil Unions!

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Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-15-2006 00:34:

New Jersey Approves Same-Sex Civil Unions!

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TRENTON, N.J. - Under pressure from New Jersey�s highest court to offer marriage or its equivalent to gay couples, the Legislature voted Thursday to make New Jersey the third state to allow civil unions.

Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine said he would sign the measure, which would extend to same-sex couples all the rights and privileges available under state law to married people. The bill passed the Assembly 56-19 and the Senate 23-12.

�Love counts,� Democratic Assemblyman Wilfredo Caraballo, a chief sponsor of the bill, said as the debate opened. �The gender of whom one loves should not matter to the state.�

But Republican Assemblyman Ronald S. Dancer said: �It�s my personal belief, faith and religious practice that marriage has been defined in the Bible. And this is one time that I cannot compromise my personal beliefs and faiths.�

Massachusetts is the only state to allow gay marriage. Vermont and Connecticut have civil unions, and California has domestic partnerships that work similarly.

Among the benefits gay couples would get under New Jersey�s civil unions bill are adoption rights, hospital visitation rights and inheritance rights.

Gay rights advocates welcomed the legislation as a step forward but said they would continue to push for the right to marry.

The bill was drafted in response to a landmark New Jersey Supreme Court ruling in October that required the state to extend the rights and benefits of marriage to gay couples within 180 days. The court, in its 4-3 ruling, left it up to the Legislature to decide whether to call such unions �marriages� or something else.

Gay rights groups have argued that not calling such unions �marriage� creates a different, and inferior, institution.

Steven Goldstein, director of the gay rights advocacy organization Garden State Equality, said he expects gay couples to be able to get married in New Jersey within two years.

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This bumps my state up a few notches, yes? The fact that it's called a "Civil Union" doesn't make a difference (To me) due to the fact that I know a few heterosexual couples that went right to the court house instead of going to a church and going through all the hassle of a wedding.

Posted by Q5echo on Dec-15-2006 00:46:

Re: New Jersey Approves Same-Sex Civil Unions!

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Originally posted by Marc Summers
due to the fact that I know a few heterosexual couples that went right to the court house instead of going to a church and going through all the hassle of a wedding.

not quite sure i understand that. wouldn't your friends still be "married" without the ceremony?

Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-15-2006 00:54:

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Originally posted by Q5echo
not quite sure i understand that. wouldn't your friends still be "married" without the ceremony?

Yeah, that's true!

But I don't think they got a marriage license, I'm pretty sure they got civil unions. That's what the hip couples do.

I might be wrong.

Posted by Jake Benson on Dec-15-2006 01:35:

Yay for New Jersey. As long as civil unions = everything that marriage is, then I don't care about the word being different.

Posted by DJ Shibby on Dec-15-2006 02:53:

Good!

It's nice to hear positive news that doesn't affect anyone negatively.

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-15-2006 03:12:

tathi will be pleased.

Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-15-2006 03:44:

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Good!

It's nice to hear positive news that doesn't affect anyone negatively.

Well, the gays are going to burn in hell.

Posted by pmoisse on Dec-15-2006 04:54:

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Originally posted by Marc Summers
Well, the gays are going to burn in hell.

wtf???

Posted by Jake Benson on Dec-15-2006 07:08:

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Originally posted by Marc Summers
Well, the gays are going to burn in hell.

But there aren't any Mormons or Conservative Christians down there so it's really not a bad place.

Posted by itsamemario on Dec-15-2006 07:18:

as long as gives the same benefits as being marriaged, it could be called 'buckfutt union' for all i care..

the only thing i find unfair is that gays now cant get the same benefits as marriaged couples do..

Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-15-2006 12:21:

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Originally posted by pmoisse
wtf???

Holy crap, joking!

Posted by Sunsnail on Dec-15-2006 13:01:

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Originally posted by Jake Benson
But there aren't any Mormons or Conservative Christians down there so it's really not a bad place.

Wow... what an excellent way to look at things.

Posted by BiG-_BoSS on Dec-15-2006 13:50:

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Originally posted by Jake Benson
But there aren't any Mormons or Conservative Christians down there so it's really not a bad place.

yeah, that really means it isn't a bad place. Have you read what Marc says about how there is mafia all over. There are ******s in gangs waiting to rape your white women and brown men ready to take your low paying job and on top of that you have a bunch of Russian's going who were probably former KGB. Or who were violent criminals during the soviet union. And now you will have many gay men who like to stick their penis's into each other moving to NJ. And females will get even uglier because a surge of lesbians will move their. And we all know that lesbians look like and act like men.

But this thing on gay marriage. It's not really wrong but it isn't right at the same time. Hard to explain. I just don't like it.

Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-15-2006 14:10:

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Originally posted by BiG-_BoSS
yeah, that really means it isn't a bad place. Have you read what Marc says about how there is mafia all over. There are ******s in gangs waiting to rape your white women and brown men ready to take your low paying job and on top of that you have a bunch of Russian's going who were probably former KGB. Or who were violent criminals during the soviet union. And now you will have many gay men who like to stick their penis's into each other moving to NJ. And females will get even uglier because a surge of lesbians will move their. And we all know that lesbians look like and act like men.

That's not even remotely close to what I said. That's really racist, bro.

Posted by BiG-_BoSS on Dec-15-2006 14:11:

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Originally posted by Marc Summers
That's not even remotely close to what I said. That's really racist, bro.

No. It wasn't meant to be racist.

Posted by Marc Summers on Dec-15-2006 14:24:

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Originally posted by BiG-_BoSS
No. It wasn't meant to be racist.

You are trying to say that's the way I think. Which is absolutely not true, and I demand an apology for such an unwarranted accusation.

Posted by BiG-_BoSS on Dec-15-2006 14:29:

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Originally posted by Marc Summers
You are trying to say that's the way I think. Which is absolutely not true, and I demand an apology for such an unwarranted accusation.
None of my concern about the way you feel for other people. I was ranting. So no apology.

Posted by DJ Shibby on Dec-15-2006 23:03:

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Originally posted by BiG-_BoSS
None of my concern about the way you feel for other people. I was ranting. So no apology.

nevermind. LOL

Posted by Gertrude on Dec-15-2006 23:15:

great more . . . gays with an excuse to the continuing abomination. if I'm going to live in sin then so be it but I'm not going justify it.

Posted by Sunsnail on Dec-15-2006 23:18:

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Originally posted by Gertrude
great more . . . gays with an excuse to the continuing abomination. if I'm going to live in sin then so be it but I'm not going justify it.

yes, because we should form our government on what one religion dictates as sinful.

Posted by Gertrude on Dec-15-2006 23:32:

well it's not just one religion many religions see it this way. I don't know if you're being crass or what but you don't see that there is something wrong with a person wanting to doo doo chase another man or whatever lesbians do. yes it's how we were raised nature vs nurture debate right.
sex is sex whether you fuct a donkey or a pencil it's still sex
love is love and it's blind so is this actually possible to love the same sex??? I seriously ask this question. if you know this please explain it to me I want to be convinced that religion is faulty and the carnal is by all means justified by. . . sea monkeys, the creature from the black lagoon, or the man in the moon.

Posted by Lilith on Dec-15-2006 23:43:

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Originally posted by Gertrude
sex is sex whether you fuct a donkey or a pencil it's still sex
love is love and it's blind so is this actually possible to love the same sex??? I seriously ask this question. if you know this please explain it to me I want to be convinced that religion is faulty and the carnal is by all means justified by. . . sea monkeys, the creature from the black lagoon, or the man in the moon.

Well, it's possible to love your family, friends and that has no carnal connotations what so ever and regardless of their gender. Same reason married couples stay together in love a long after the sexual aspects and practices of their relationship have long passed.
Course, if you've never been in love theres not much point in trying to explain it.

Posted by BiG-_BoSS on Dec-15-2006 23:49:

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Originally posted by Gertrude
great more . . . gays with an excuse to the continuing abomination. if I'm going to live in sin then so be it but I'm not going justify it.

I know its like inter racial marriage. Just what is going through some people's minds??

Posted by Groundhog Boy on Dec-15-2006 23:52:

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Originally posted by BiG-_BoSS
I know its like inter racial marriage. Just what is going through some people's minds??

Posted by Lilith on Dec-15-2006 23:59:

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Originally posted by BiG-_BoSS
I know its like inter racial marriage. Just what is going through some people's minds??

Redneckski's?

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