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how safe is the vancouver scene?

so, the last two raves have had major fights break out
there are more and more posers and thugs at trance parties
gangsters have been coming to parties for a while now, but they've kept to themselves without big public displays for the most part

so do you feel safe when partying?

Depends on the venue.

Cyber - Better than Viva, but the guys are still 'involved' - 6/10
Plush - 3/10
Maritime - 8/10
Riverside - 7/10
Richards - 9/10
Lotus - 5/10
Red Room - 7/10
Apex - 3/10
Celebrities - 8/10
Capital - 2/10
Commodore - 9/10

also, please elaborate about the last 2 incidents

a fight broke out at the november rave between two rival gangs
same two gangs had two more fights at freeze last weekend, there were even rumors of a shooting, which did not happen, btw. but the fights were so bad that people were hitting someone else with chairs, rather scary if you ask me


out of towners are worried about their safety, concerned about other parties they planned on coming to

3/10 for plush? even for big events like avb? That's sick. You'd think the big scary black bouncers would keep them away at least some amount.

As alot of you, know, ive had some bad times there.

Plush also does alot of hip hop nights.

Its like every retard in the city heads down there.

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Originally posted by AquaYak As alot of you, know, ive had some bad times there. Plush also does alot of hip hop nights. Its like every retard in the city heads down there.

Agreed, plush security must be the worst around.


That one guy keeps letting his gangster friends in for 500$ or rediculous prices like that, and they casually walk in with weapons.

plush is actually pretty bad on average if you consider other nights
i've seen a mob of girls drag by the hair and kick two other girls, seen regular guy fights outside too

trance nights there are probably the safer ones

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Originally posted by blueadept 3/10 for plush? even for big events like avb? That's sick. You'd think the big scary black bouncers would keep them away at least some amount.

i'm more scared of the security at plush than the crowd. i've been shoved around by them for no reason, and one time i was trying to get an autograph and was grabbed by the shirt collar and thrown out. i also saw marty take a nose dive, drunk, off a stage, they didn't even care to make sure he was alright before sending him out, they just tossed him out. i think elena also told me, one night when i was there, about them shoving someone off a stage or stairs or something. meh, take it all with a grain of salt though. as i said, i haven't been there in ages so i'm sure the crews are different.

ive only seen one fight at Aqua when i saw Andy Moor...
overall i think trance music nights are safer than say hip-hop events and such.
but its probably cus i havent heard of lots of these fights..

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Originally posted by AquaYak Depends on the venue. Richards - 9/10

really? That's where people always get stabbed or shot. I never take richards between 1am and 3am cause half the time the police have it closed off investigating something.

If you don't feel safe....then don't go...it's as simple as that...

Violence at events such as clubbing and raving aren't anything new.

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Originally posted by thecoyote really? That's where people always get stabbed or shot. I never take richards between 1am and 3am cause half the time the police have it closed off investigating something.

The times Ive been to Richards ive seen a shooting, massive fights, and a stabbing


fun place tho

yeah, richards is cool
great for small concerts
but you always hear about bad stuff happening there, i guess mostly on hiphop nights

trance is too pussy and wimpy to get any respect on the
streets YO!

we need to bring it out and make it real YO!
whatcha say gangsta bitch elena!?

ahh ... foh shizzle mah nizzle ... dizzle ...

hahah ...

99 bottle of beer on the wall .. 99 bottles .. ah .. beeeeer!!

It's not the clubs you should be worrying about, its the clientelle and the people that you are marketing too that you should really be worrying about.

When's the last time you saw a shooting outside a dnb event?
Or a stabbing during a trance event?

i like dnb crowds, they are super friendly, even nicer than trancers

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Originally posted by narc ... When's the last time you saw a shooting outside a dnb event? Or a stabbing during a trance event?

There was a fatal stabbing at a Calgary trance event in a club January 2005.
This one seems like it was a targetted hit but 2 bouncers also were wounded when the bad guys forced their way in.
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...7&forumid=27&s=
http://audio.area709.com/spotlight_stab.php

But I would have to agree that hip-hop places are the most risky and electronica is a lot safer. There are 3 clubs in my town playing regular crappy music fuelled by cheap drinks, and shots have been fired outside all of them (only 1 injury recently though).

I think all events involving booze have some risk. People can be a lot more aggressive when they're drunk.

Sigh, I miss the good old days, when techno was relegated to dives and not to clubs where people go to be seen.

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Originally posted by narc It's not the clubs you should be worrying about, its the clientelle and the people that you are marketing too that you should really be worrying about. When's the last time you saw a shooting outside a dnb event? Or a stabbing during a trance event?

That's not always the truth. In fact Victoria's biggest street fight of 2006 happened outside Sugar, when Dj Dan's set was letting out. I had friends involved on both sides. Over 50 arrests were made that night.

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