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Is Trakor a good mixing program?

I wood like to mix on my pc and wood like to know if traktor is a good program for it?

Or are there better programs ot that work good with a soundblaster audigy Pletinum Ex?

Personally I don't like Traktor.
In order to use it well, you'll have to learn A LOT of different settings and options. It's very complicated, and requires learning.

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Originally posted by Eugene Personally I don't like Traktor. In order to use it well, you'll have to learn A LOT of different settings and options. It's very complicated, and requires learning.

well...
think about the options a REAL MIXER has



i dont like traktor because i keep getting lag when i press the play button which really takes the mix off balance

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Originally posted by DJ-Energy well... think about the options a REAL MIXER has

Not really... What do you have on a real mixer? eq's, volume faders and a crossfader... and some form of headphone cueing system. I think what Eugene is getting at is that there are a lot of settings to do with how Traktor uses the soundcard(s), what the buttons do, how the playlist works etc, things that aren't an issue with real mixers.

I do agree with you on the lag issue though. Traktor is VERY graphical and hence takes a lot of processing just for the graphics, when really it should be fairly minimal graphically and concentrating on processing the sound.

I would say Virtual Turntables is a far better program, it has the minimal feel I mentioned so it doesn't skip when playing or anything like that, even when I used to use it on my old P233. It's also the closest PC mixing program I have used to real turntables. Moving up from this to real turntables was very easy for me.

If you want to mix digitally, there is only ONE worthy program in my opinion. AtomixMP3 2.1

www.atomixmp3.com

It's got tons of neat stuff.. effects, skins, external mixer support, looping, autoBPM, auto beat matching, waveform display... and it's STABLE! (unlike traktor)

-meridian

Oke but do atomix and Virtual turntables work properly on one sound card(audigy platimun ex) and I Monitor with one soundcard?

In traktor I can use my asio driver to route the monitor to my second output.

Where can I get virtual turntables and atomix mp3 so I can try them out?

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Originally posted by sergedg Oke but do atomix and Virtual turntables work properly on one sound card(audigy platimun ex) and I Monitor with one soundcard?

In Virtual Turntables, Yes, you can, you can do all kinds of stuff. You can have as many soundcards as windows will handle (probably not many then) and assign the left channel to one and the right channel to another and all the different players to different soundcards if you want. And you can use just one soundcard, just send the speaker output to the left channel and the headphone output to the right, or the other way round if you prefer.
I can't comment on Atomix MP3 as I haven't used it.

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Where can I get virtual turntables and atomix mp3 so I can try them out?

VTT: www.carrotinnovations.com

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Originally posted by sergedg Oke but do atomix and Virtual turntables work properly on one sound card(audigy platimun ex) and I Monitor with one soundcard? In traktor I can use my asio driver to route the monitor to my second output. Where can I get virtual turntables and atomix mp3 so I can try them out?

As far as sound for atomixmp3, you can have:

a) one sound card, internal mixer, stereo output (no cue)
b) one sound card, external mixer, split mono (track a on right track b on left, use a splitter)
c) one sound card, internal mixer, split mono (program on right, cue on left, use a splitter)

d) two sound cards (or a 3D card), internal mixer, stereo output (program on one card, cue on the other)
e) two sound cards (or a 3D card), external mixer, stereo output

With AtomixMP3, you can set it up so the main output of your audigy is the program, and the rear output is the cue. no need for a second soundboard. or you can use your second card for the cue and the audigy for the program... There is no need for fancy (and annoying)ASIO drivers, AtomixMP3 is based on DirectX and works best under Win98 or later with DirectX 8 or higher.

VTT is old and out of development. AtomixMP3 actually started from VTT and progressed into what it is today, from what I've read.

You can get the demo from download.com or atomixmp3.com

One note, is the extended sound configuration (IE dual sound boards or split mono) is not enabled in the demo - it DOES work in the full version, but is not even included in the demo.

Thanks for al the good tips. I'm downloading the demo's of the 2 programs now and I'm gonne test them out.

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Yea I would say Traktor is a good program to mix with on the PC, but I wouldnt agree that it is unstable. I've done a 3 hourlive set with it, and only got 1 skip with a track simply because of fragmentation. I dont quink its hard to use either, it took me a while to use it properly, but now I can mix with it well without no automatic functions. But about the lag (latency) is only caused by how fast ur soundcard can process the sound, there is a balance between having it to fast for ur soundcard and making it skip, and making it too slow and just plain shite.

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With AtomixMP3, you can set it up so the main output of your audigy is the program, and the rear output is the cue. no need for a second soundboard. or you can use your second card for the cue and the audigy for the program... There is no need for fancy (and annoying)ASIO drivers, AtomixMP3 is based on DirectX and works best under Win98 or later with DirectX 8 or higher.

I will Atomix, but the bottom line of the matter is that the Creative Labs Audigy sound card, is just shite for mixing. ASIO Full Duplex DirectX drivers are the best way to drive the processors on your soundcard. VTT is not a bad program, and would be good for getting used to the real thing, but i've used Trakor A LOT, and its gonna take either a pair of Technics 1210's or a real smooth PC program to beat it, =)

For me Traktor is the best, and believe me, I've tried pretty much every mixing program out there. My second favorite is the latest version of MixVibes.
About AtomixMP3 -- sorry, but it looks like a program for kids.

, I'm glad someone agree's with me, its the eJay of the pc mixing programs. Traktor and Delta44, cant beat it.

Yeah, I can't wait for the version 2.0 to come out -- just look at this beauty.

Okay.. so far along the way i have used

traktor, pcdj silver, pcdj red, atomix, mixvibes, vtt, mj studio
i have to say by far VTT is da best!!, for of all, the program is veryyyy stable and dosen't take up alot of ram %

second, the sound that comes out of it is very clear and nice, it is the closest thing i have seen to a real TT..

atomix, lol, this program is a KIDDIE script
a baby can mix with this program, it just does everything 4 u!!!.. and the sound quality is HORIBLE!!!!

the samples are so lame!!!, i think they took all of them from icq


well.. just my 2 cents, get VTT NOW!

btw - i use 2 soundcards..

oh my goodness. traktor 2.0 is massive.

Yeah, it should be out by June and will be available for both PC and Mac. Here is the preview.

so is traktor 2.0 in beta still? or gold? the UI looks a little better than the previous version, but i wonder if the code is stable yet...

-mer

I use both Tracktor and VTT depending on what I want to do or achieve. Tracktor has some nice features such as the on board Notch/Band Pass Filter that does a fairly accurate job of the real thing. However, Tracktor has a dodgy built in compressor that I don�t like and don�t know how to switch off.

For newbies wanting to learn the ropes I suggest Tracktor. However if you�re already a DJ and want a cut the crap straight forward MP3 program VTT, is the one for you. Or do what I do and use both

By the way, I have mine set up with two soundcards and an external mixer. For any MP3 mixing program though you need a decent sound card.

very true about needing a good soundboard... and good isnt always expensive, however.

Cheap soundcards have bad frequency lock (IE 44.1khz may drift or not be very accurate) and tend to report the audio stream position with a very high degree of error... very bad things there.

also, try to avoid 3D (4 channels on one device and one board) when mixing MP3s... they generally not only have poor signal quality, but also tend to have bad channel seperation...

-mer

ok... so yall seem to think traktor is the sh*t so you must know something about it will version 1.x work with an external mixer?

i just obtained a copy of 1.06 and I dont see any support for an external mixer... am I missing something?

-mer

Traktor 1.x doesn't work with an external mixer.

I use BPM Studio and enjoy it immensely with an external mixer... works much like a pair of cd decks. But once Traktor 2 comes out, I'm going to have to give it a try, it looks really good.

that's cool. i figured i wasnt missing anything.

*cough* traktor looks like a big pile o terd *cough* maybe 2.0 will be a little less insane on the layout and better on the functionality *lol*

BPM studio.. there's one I havnt tried yet *hits the file sharing engines*

-mer

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Originally posted by spectra , I'm glad someone agree's with me, its the eJay of the pc mixing programs. Traktor and Delta44, cant beat it.

There is an eJay pc mixing program, and i have it

Its made by the same guys at Atomix mp3...

Its okay, but certainly not good...

[Dan]

eJay is simply a pre-release version of AtomixMP3 2.0. 2.0 is buggy enough, eJay is worse *lol*

The eJay version of AtomixMP3 also does not function with an external mixer... The whole idea of trying to hit the EQs, crossfader, track selections, etc with just a keyboard and mouse and ludicris.

-mer

traktor works perfectly for me(no delays at all)... i have tried a lot of SHIT out there... and i mean shit! .... traktor is the only program that i can acctually enjoy mixing on my computer.... i dont really mix on computer that much b/c i have decks.... but its always fun to mix mp3's that u dont have on vinyl. the real big reason i use traktor is b/c its got kick ass looping...best i have ever seen or used in any PCDJ program!

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