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BPM On The Record Cover ?
Hi, Last week I was at the party, and one DJ have got stickers on the cover with bpm
well I thing that sometimes it can help, but in the other side it is destroying everything U don't need to beatmach because U know the bpm 
what are U thinking about that idea guys ? well I thing that this i cheating and not DJ'ing... and U are cheeting Yourself
I think whatever method works for you. Your job as the dj is to keep the dancefloor moving, how you get it done is all on you.
It's totaly not cheating. In fact it's a very professional approach, and may well assist with other disciplines, such as harmonic mixing.... more on that in another thread.
This whole thing about BPM counters and the like, everyone who mixes knows that knowing the BPM of a track is an aid for quicker beatmatching, not a substitute.
If you used it as a substitute your mixes would sound terrible.
Learning to fine beatmatch is what sorts the men from the boys. I use my BPM counters to get in the region, then spend a good 2 minutes fine tuning. 9 times out of 10 during a transition I don't need to touch the pitch control cos my skill in matching a beat is very good.
So no - it's not cheating in the slightest. Do away with this myth!
I would say it is not "cheating" either. I've found (mixing on my Numarks) that even if you have two records that are exactly the same BPM, you will still spend time fine tuning your beatmatching. Like everyone says, it will get you in the neighborhood, but it won't always be 100% perfect. In fact, it can save you time and help you fine tune things so that your mixing is even tighter.
BPM stickers or counters (accuracy to be determined) are useful for getting in the right range. I've practiced mixing with known exact BPM'd tracks and a calculator just to see how accurate my beatmatching is.
You'll still have to beatmatch- it just makes things easier and faster.
yeah Jarvmeister got it right: Bpm stickers on 12" records are a great aid when youre trying to mix harmonically.
But I dont think its that important to "perfect" the pitch during beatmatching. Its much more convenient to "ride the pitch" for at least two reasons:
a) the result is more accurate (9 times out of 10 the TT's are 'a littttttle' drifty and its really hard to do 2+ minute transitions without touching the pitch)
b) less time beatmatching = more time to eq & fade right (+effects).. Of course then youll have to multitask between riding the pitch and eq'ing 
Re: BPM On The Record Cover ?
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| Originally posted by BTL Hi, Last week I was at the party, and one DJ have got stickers on the cover with bpm well I thing that sometimes it can help, but in the other side it is destroying everything U don't need to beatmach because U know the bpm what are U thinking about that idea guys ? well I thing that this i cheating and not DJ'ing... and U are cheeting Yourself |
I never thought it was cheating, but it sure takes a while to do that. I did start doing it with new tracks I've hardly listened to or rarely played ones. #1 problem eliminated: for example from very long transitions + effects playing, I've got about 2 minutes to pick & match the next one; looking through the records, choose one, set it up and realize its way too slow or fast, now I've got a minute 
How exactly is writing the BMP on a record/cd gonna help you beat match???? Unless you are actually going to be looking for too tracks that have the exact same BPM, LOL
I write the key and BMP on my cd's and my mixes iz soooooo tight, guess im not a rel dj
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| Originally posted by 996vtwin How exactly is writing the BMP on a record/cd gonna help you beat match???? |
Re: BPM On The Record Cover ?
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| Originally posted by BTL Hi, Last week I was at the party, and one DJ have got stickers on the cover with bpm well I thing that sometimes it can help, but in the other side it is destroying everything U don't need to beatmach because U know the bpm what are U thinking about that idea guys ? well I thing that this i cheating and not DJ'ing... and U are cheeting Yourself |
Averyone else has already said it all. BPM counters aren't accurate enough plus they go all over the place during breakdowns so just use em as a quick guide then use them flappy things on the side of your head from there
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| Originally posted by 996vtwin How exactly is writing the BMP on a record/cd gonna help you beat match???? Unless you are actually going to be looking for too tracks that have the exact same BPM |
I think this guy thinks that if you know the bpms of two tracks, you can pull out your little calculator (not a metaphor for penis) and calculate how much pitch change you need. Then you can get exactly that pitch change on the slider and you're done.
Of course, no one carries a little calculator, you can't get a precise percentage change on a slider, and even then if the deck's a bit worn out it means that you'll still be a bit off and need to............ beatmatch.
I do think it would be hilarious to see a dj in the booth with a pad and pen doing long division though
Even if he thinks using it as a rough guide to how much you need to change is cheating, as soon as you hear two tracks you generally have a rough idea how much you need to change anyway (say to within 1%, which is probably about the same as you could get in your head by calculating two numbers)
besides, theres much more to djing than beatmatching
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| Originally posted by Trance Nutter Of course, no one carries a little calculator, you can't get a precise percentage change on a slider, and even then if the deck's a bit worn out it means that you'll still be a bit off and need to............ beatmatch. |
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| Originally posted by Jarvmeister Here in the UK we have things called CDs. And recently we started using CD decks, that give you a 100% accurate percentage reading of the pitch range. [One sarcastic comment deserves another ]Jarv |
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