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Spotlight on E
December 29th 2006.
In Today's Toronto Star there is a huge article on Ecstasy!
I suppose they are prepping all of us party animals for new years! reminding us of just one more thing to add to the cocktail list
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LAZZZZZZZZZZZERS!
SOURCE - TORoNTO StaR
Spotlight on E
Ecstasy is a fact of party life for some and the end-of-the-year gala is no exception. Harm-reduction groups in Australia, the U.S. and even in British Columbia test partiers' pills for dangerous adulterants. Why is Toronto The Good not doing the same?
http://www3.thestar.com/static/PDF/...rants_pills.pdf
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| December 29, 2006 Amy Brown-Bowers Special to the Star It started as ordinary teenage partying on New Year's Eve, a night of too many drinks, lots of fun and stupid decisions. Dealers of recreational drugs were circulating freely in the downtown Toronto club and my roommate scored some complimentary "ecstasy" pills. But they didn't work like ecstasy pills. After I found her slumped in the bathroom and got her home and hydrated, she went manic, alternately cleaning and dancing in her bedroom well into the next day. A friend directed me to pillreports.com, a website where recreational drug users post digital images of pills they have taken alongside detailed descriptions of the effects. Some users do basic chemical tests of pill contents and post the results online. We quickly found an image of the pills my roommate took � turns out they were laced with speed (the common name for methamphetamines). Ecstasy, or MDMA, is a psychoactive drug that typically induces feelings of euphoria, empathy, decreased inhibitions and an increased awareness of tactile and emotional experiences. It was originally developed as a diet aid and was used experimentally in clinical settings to help people in couples' counselling before becoming illegal. Today it is most often used at clubs and raves. But back to my friend: thankfully, there was no major harm done. Had she been in Victoria, she might have escaped the ordeal altogether. That's because harm-reduction organizations such as Island Kidz offer free and anonymous pill testing at raves and clubs. On any given weekend, volunteer Jessica Krippendorf, 30, and some friends pack their glow-in-the-dark bracelets, candy, condoms, flyers and bottles of chemical reactants, and head to a venue. Once there, they set up a booth and post their sign: Free pill testing. Then they wait for the lines to form. They test ecstasy pills for dangerous adulterants like speed, DXM and TMA as well as for the presence of actual ecstasy. Many so-called ecstasy pills actually contain no trace of the drug. Pill testing is a harm-reduction strategy not unlike needle exchange programs and safe crack kits that acknowledge people are taking and will continue to take drugs but try to reduce some of the risks by giving potential users access to unbiased and non-judgmental information. Common in Europe, Australia and parts of the U.S., pill testing is scarce in Canada and not done in Toronto. The Toronto Drug Strategy, adopted by city council in 2005, supports needle exchanges and safe crack kits as effective harm-reduction methods, but makes no mention of pill testing. When the strategy was debated, pill testing was never "raised as an option or as a program that was being used in another jurisdiction," says councillor Kyle Rae, chair of the advisory committee. "I just feel it's fraught with liability concerns and why would a non-profit or the city take on the liability of what a 14- or 15-year-old is consuming ... You may have found the line that I'm uncomfortable crossing when it comes to harm reduction." TRIP, a harm-reduction group for ravers that has received grants from the provincial government and the City of Toronto, doesn't do pill testing but would, as long as its funding wasn't affected and its volunteers didn't have to worry about being arrested, says project co-ordinator Erin Lewis. "There are too many risks involved right now ... (but) I would love if we could do it. I think it's a really good thing," she says. Rae, on the other hand, thinks, "it would be very difficult for the board of health or for the citizens of Toronto to see this as a priority." As for legal liabilities, Det. Doug McCutcheon of the Toronto Police drug squad says the likelihood of possession and trafficking violations during pill testing would require some kind of special legal exemption by the government or courts. "The whole harm-reduction premise flies in the face of law enforcement ... it's the opposite ends of the spectrum," he says. "Harm reduction ... it's saying, `You know what, we know that you're not going to be a prohibitionist, we know that you're going to do it, but at least let's try to minimize the damage you're going to cause to yourself.' "You can't have a law enforcement officer saying, `I'm going to arrest you for possession of ecstasy' and then on the same hand ... (say), `You know what? I know you're going to do the pills but this is what's in them so take notice.'" But out in Victoria, Krippendorf, who started Island Kidz about six years ago, says she worked with police on the testing process, and together, they came up with a strict protocol to ensure all the testing is legal. She is completing a social work diploma with a specialization in addiction at Malaspina University-College in Nanaimo. Jake (not his real name), a jungle DJ from Toronto attending university out west, has been "dealing and dosing" recreational drugs since high school. But it wasn't until he moved to B.C. to study that he heard about pill testing. He bought a home pill testing kit online that he now uses regularly. Home kits include bottles of chemical reagents used to test for several substances in pills. "Even if (the pills) are from a tested source, which I go through, I'll still usually want to test them out ... I want to know what I've got, especially if I'm giving it to my friends. I'd feel pretty responsible if I gave somebody something that did them wrong," he says. Harm-reduction groups say users don't respond to the "just say no'' approach. Says Krippendorf: "We accept that drug use is part of the human experience. We don't condone it nor do we condemn it. We just sort of accept people's choices as they are. "The purpose of adulterant screening is not to say, `Yep, this is E, have a nice night,'" she notes. It's "to find out what pills that are sold as ecstasy contain something far more harmful." The testing process takes seconds. Volunteers take small scrapings of ecstasy pills � Purple Aliens, Emoticons, Yellow Stars and Blue Bombers � from ravers, drop chemical reactants on the powder and watch for instant colour-coded reactions that show the presence of psychotropic adulterants. Volunteers tell the pill owner how quickly they will feel a reaction, what it might be and the possible dangers. "One of the things we try to do is say, `This is the drug you're about to take. Have you taken this drug before? Are you prepared for this type of evening?'" says Johnboy Davidson, founding member of Enlighten Harm Reduction, a group based in Melbourne, Australia, that used to do onsite pill testing at raves. His group took onsite images of the pills it tested using a microscope. The photos are online at enlighten.org.au/show Featured.php. Earlier this year, the group stopped doing onsite testing after the South Australia Police Commissioner warned that pill testers would be arrested if they continued. Davidson calls this "a political victory" in that his group has forced discussion of the issue "at the highest levels," he says, adding that the Victoria state government recently tendered for a feasibility study into pill testing and a legal trial of testing could begin soon. Le Lui, executive director of DanceSafe, a North American-based harm-reduction group with several chapters in the United States, stresses the importance of arming young people with specific, concrete information so they can make informed decisions. "How can we expect young people to be smart and healthy if we're withholding information from them?" he says. "And that's a problem with drug education in that we withhold a lot of information about drugs because we're afraid it's going to get them excited and anxious to use it. (But) if we tell someone that this pill contains two-thirds of some pharmaceutical substance that he's never heard of and just one part MDMA, then that person might not take the pill any more because that's not what that person wanted." While most users probably end up taking the drugs they've had tested, volunteers say, the hope is that the really dangerous pills are weeded out. "I get very frustrated that we're not doing better monitoring of pills because we know there's all kinds of stuff in them and as a public health measure we should be finding out what people are actually consuming," says Nick Boyce, gay men's harm reduction co-ordinator for the AIDS Committee of Toronto. While he doesn't see onsite pill testing happening any time soon in Toronto, he says more people would support the strategy if they understood it better. "I think it's something that can be done. It's just that on top of the pill testing you have to do very good education around what this actually means," Boyce says. |
pffft ... E is soooo over rated and such a thing of past.
tis all about the G nowadays
tis true. but some like to kick it old school
OMG. My mother literally just read this, and yelled up to me "do you ever do ecstacy at your rave dance clubs?"
I didn't answer her.
Do you think that was a mother-friendly thing to do? I mean, I didn't lie, but I didn't tell her the truth. 
E is amazing.. but moderation is key. Dont wanna lose that magic!
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| Originally posted by -D- OMG. My mother literally just read this, and yelled up to me "do you ever do ecstacy at your rave dance clubs?" I didn't answer her. Do you think that was a mother-friendly thing to do? I mean, I didn't lie, but I didn't tell her the truth. |
hhe my parents ask me every time they catch wind of a street drug in the news
same answer for most substances.... ya i tried it.... so what.... in your day dad was blazing front row @ Jefferson airplane.
my dad grew a marijuana plant in university.... but he opposes me doing drugs and even drinking hehe
newb question: what's g?
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| Originally posted by kotsy newb question: what's g? |
g is short for GHB - stay far far away from this shit!
here's link to some informationCLICK HERE
G is a liquid drug mixed into water or a drink. basically fucks ya up
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| Originally posted by exstasie G is a letter in the alphabet...it comes after F...but Before H! |
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| Originally posted by dallastar g is short for GHB - stay far far away from this shit! |
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| Originally posted by -D- OMG. My mother literally just read this, and yelled up to me "do you ever do ecstacy at your rave dance clubs?" I didn't answer her. Do you think that was a mother-friendly thing to do? I mean, I didn't lie, but I didn't tell her the truth. |
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| Originally posted by chinamon my mom found a baggy of like 20 pills on my desk right at my computer once. she asked "what is that?" and i answered "dont worry about it" and she never questioned me again. she knows it was drugs but not exactly what kind. and she knows its not prescription drugs because she knows exactly what that looks like since my dad is a pharmacist. my mom is just cool like that. |
my mom was cool with me growing shrooms in the basement 
she even took care of then while i was in cuba ...
But i dont think she would be cool about pills
At least your booze buses don't have random drug testing 
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Natio...2787018732.html
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| Originally posted by chinamon my mom found a baggy of like 20 pills on my desk right at my computer once. she asked "what is that?" and i answered "dont worry about it" and she never questioned me again. she knows it was drugs but not exactly what kind. and she knows its not prescription drugs because she knows exactly what that looks like since my dad is a pharmacist. my mom is just cool like that. |
The journalist wrote: "They test ecstasy pills for dangerous adulterants like speed, DXM and TMA as well as for the presence of actual ecstasy".
This comment demonstrates ignorance: there is no such drug as 'ecstasy'. Ecstasy is the street name for pills that are supposed to contain MDMA, but as we are all aware pills are hardly ever (if ever at all) pure. The journalist ought to have said "the presence of MDMA" not 'actual ecstasy' which refers to a non-existent. I know some of you will complain that I am splitting hairs so-to-speak but I don't appreciate the news media talking inappropriately about important topics such as drug use.
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| Originally posted by cenik The journalist wrote: "They test ecstasy pills for dangerous adulterants like speed, DXM and TMA as well as for the presence of actual ecstasy". This comment demonstrates ignorance: there is no such drug as 'ecstasy'. Ecstasy is the street name for pills that are supposed to contain MDMA, but as we are all aware pills are hardly ever (if ever at all) pure. The journalist ought to have said "the presence of MDMA" not 'actual ecstasy' which refers to a non-existent. I know some of you will complain that I am splitting hairs so-to-speak but I don't appreciate the news media talking inappropriately about important topics such as drug use. |
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| Originally posted by chinamon my mom is just cool like that. |
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| Originally posted by Jem_hadar Its annoying if they ask me before I head out to a party though and I have the intention of dropping that night (ie. their questioning me BEFORE I do E, not after the fact) Most he time the answer is "No, I'm not taking E tonite" bc I rarely pop anymore, but I do a few times a year, so if they happen to enquire an afternoon before a night when i plan to get high, I say "yes" and then I have to deal w/ them trying to convince me why its a bad idea all day. Just annoying more than anything I suppose. |
i wish my parents tried E at least once... it would totaly change thier mentality on life
i kinda got caught. a friend had msn'd me and said "i have the candy for tomorrow" and my rents knew i was goign to guv. they saw the message on the computer cuz i dunno why... and they approached me and asked what he was talking about. i answered, "hes talking about caffeine pills. how else would one stay up so long" i dont think i convinced them
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| Originally posted by _EuG_ i wish my parents tried E at least once... it would totaly change thier mentality on life |
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