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Could someone explain what i missed for$100 that i didnt get for $19 ?

Just wondering what i missed out on friday night at plush at Armin , that i didn't get at Ton the night before ?

I think it was inline with these

what you missed

actually you missed the 4 Avril Lavigne wannabe's

the stuff they play is diferent.. a bit. i guess that's what you missed.. and why do i have a feeling this will turn into some bashing thread that you could've had a better time in that place instead of the other please for so and so less money.. bla bla .. too bad it was on a thursday.. guess weekends are too expensive ?

yup I have to agree Ton TB (although I had to bail at 1am for work) was worth the sleep dep the next day and I was happy when my alarm went off at 5am because the show was sick and I hadn't had that much fun in a very long time going out. The vibe was wicked, every dj was awesome (not just the headliner) People were SMILING.....and DANCING and I didn't have to see barely legal sluts posing like Paris wannabees. I can't wait for Naz' next show

While Ton TB was good, I liked Armin more. But that could just be my taste in the tunes...I thought Ton TB played a good set, but from what I remember it was just kinda empty....I had decided to take it easy and save myself for Armin, but ended up going hard both nights...I had a blast at both, and while I will never say that seventy-something dollars for a dj is EVER a fair deal, I enjoyed armin and the crowd and how into it everyone is at armin....I would see both again, in conclusion.

lol

bump , im thinking for the first time in my life i GOT A DEAL !!!!!QUALITY OVER QUANTITY wins every time

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Originally posted by 35 and hooked bump , im thinking for the first time in my life i GOT A DEAL !!!!!QUALITY OVER QUANTITY wins every time

hmm .. not so sure many others would put Ton over Armin in terms
of quality. Pending I guess on what style you like most.

Plush has it's issues in terms of sound and promotion, but
I'd still rather do Armin then TON any day ...

who the fuck is TON TB anyway??? ... lol ...
yeah I know .. greece 2000 or something .. great track
Wasn't that like .. ages ago?

It was bad timing too, right before sasha AND armin, AND NYE

Seems like NAZ bet on the power of the TA community which is
unfortunatelly rather weak.

wasnt talking djs

I was talking more about vibe and bang for your buck .

I paid $20 for BT which was way better than Armin or Ton tb.. ur paying for the name. #2 dj in the world.. i still think this thread is useless

i paid $25 for bt and above and beyond, a&b blew my mind, bt almost made me puke

last time i saw armin i paid about $60, it was rather meh

things turned out that i didnt pay for ton tb and i had a blast. even if i paid $20-$30, i would have still had a great time because the crowd, the vibe, the sound, the set up, the club were far far better than what a $100 armin show can offer at plush.

angelo is absolutely right. it's not about the DJ alone, it's also about the atmosphere, and frankly, i'm sick and tired of dealing with the pretentious crowd that has been attending armin, pvd and ferry shows for the last couple of years.

i'm glad i got to see those guys a few times before the barbie dolls and white gangsters heard about them, so that now i can go to smaller but way better parties, even if there are only 20-30 people there like there were for rank 1.

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Originally posted by apri_peel so that now i can go to smaller but way better parties, even if there are only 20-30 people there like there were for rank 1.

ya know I'd rather attend a smaller venue slightly below capacity,
then a stadium full of idiots too ...

not so sure about just 20 people bouncing around though ..
would get boring .. I like meeting NEW people when I go out.

Honestly, comparisons like these are kind of useless. Why not go further and make a point about seeing your local DJ's play trance for you for free or for regular $10 cover instead of paying 20-30 dollars for some headliner? There are so many factors as to why someone would go to event A over event B or vice versa.

My point here is money and price point isn't everything. I would have came out to this event if I was not working on Friday morning and if I didn't have obligations that Thursday night. I paid $45 for my ticket to Armin and though it costed more than double for 3 Drives, I still had plenty of fun at a trance event at Plush. Isn't that the original point of going out? If you want more people to show up to your events, try promoting even harder instead of being bitter at the success of other events.

i wasn't being bitter about the success of armin show, i'm happy for twisted and i'm glad they bring big name DJs to the city, exposing the top 40 crowd to trance making trance more popular and hopefully more accepted

but those events are just not for me anymore because top 40 crowd is exactly why i tend to stay away from those parties

the way i see it, for angelo and people who agree with him, it's not all about the DJ, it's also about other people who are there with you that make it a memorable night

Everyone does go to show for different reasons. As the picture may have pointed out, price, venue, DJ and sound doesn't matter if all you are looking for is to grope/ogle chicks/guys or to get plastered drunk or even just to start a fight.

But if you are a fan of a certain genre of music be it trance, techno, house, hip hop, you should always at least strive for best bang for your buck and that usually starts with supporting promoters who give a damn and have a passion for the scene and music.

That's why you're tranceaddicts, right?

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Originally posted by apri_peel i wasn't being bitter about the success of armin show, i'm happy for twisted and i'm glad they bring big name DJs to the city, exposing the top 40 crowd to trance making trance more popular and hopefully more accepted but those events are just not for me anymore because top 40 crowd is exactly why i tend to stay away from those parties the way i see it, for angelo and people who agree with him, it's not all about the DJ, it's also about other people who are there with you that make it a memorable night

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this, but I think its unfair to just label a group of people as top 40 and then go on to say they are the reason you don't attend the shows anymore. They were there for trance music and to me they are the trance crowd.

I club regularly in the top 40/hip hop scene and yes, there are many idiots at those parties, but there are definitely many resepectful top 40 clubbers too.

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Originally posted by meridian82 I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this, but I think its unfair to just label a group of people as top 40 and then go on to say they are the reason you don't attend the shows anymore. They were there for trance music and to me they are the trance crowd. I club regularly in the top 40/hip hop scene and yes, there are many idiots at those parties, but there are definitely many resepectful top 40 clubbers too.

hardly any


The only reason I ever go out to a hip hop/top 40 night is to pick up girls and even that is retardedly easy at nights like that.


Vibe is shit, music is shit, crowd is shit

Only good thing about top 40 night is the easy girls

hummm..

Armin has always been one of my favorites and I really enjoyed myself at the show. Good times! The company was great, the crowd was not too bad except for the Avril wanna be gals up front...icky!

Me

you guys can say what you want, Armin has got skills, mixing is perfect, plays all promos mostley.

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Originally posted by meridian82 I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this, but I think its unfair to just label a group of people as top 40 and then go on to say they are the reason you don't attend the shows anymore. They were there for trance music and to me they are the trance crowd. I club regularly in the top 40/hip hop scene and yes, there are many idiots at those parties, but there are definitely many resepectful top 40 clubbers too.

no, those people are not the trance crowd because they don't go to any other trance events. if it's not tiesto, armin, ferry or pvd, they dont know it and wouldnt bother attending

those people's regular club nights include top 40 club nights

those people are not at armin for trance music, it's way way down on their list of reasons to attend such an event

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Originally posted by apri_peel no, those people are not the trance crowd because they don't go to any other trance events. if it's not tiesto, armin, ferry or pvd, they dont know it and wouldnt bother attending those people's regular club nights include top 40 club nights those people are not at armin for trance music, it's way way down on their list of reasons to attend such an event

That's absurd. Is there any rationale to this at all or is this just your personal views and assumptions? This is like saying I'm not a fan of band music because I only attend the Chilli's concert or Cold Play's concert. Just because you assumed that these people club reguarly at top 40 nights doesn't make them any less of a trance fanatic if they listen to trance music on their own time and happen to choose those big Dj's as their favorite artists. That is how it all starts anyway for most people most of the time.

I was at Armin and as far as I can remember, the crowd at Plush was definitely into the music as much as any other trance event I have attended and I have attended many, from nights as packed as Armin and from nights as dead as GTR/Pulser @ Plush.

People club to have fun. Not everyone is that anal about the music. For most people, they just want to party where their friends are. Getting the best bang for the buck is good. I'm all for money savings, but what good is it if none of your friends are there?

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Originally posted by meridian82 People club to have fun. Not everyone is that anal about the music. For most people, they just want to party where their friends are. Getting the best bang for the buck is good. I'm all for money savings, but what good is it if none of your friends are there?

and a lot of times it may be only one person in the group who knows who armin is and the rest are there just cause

i've been to a lot of trance events in vancouver too, i have seen the people who go to the big events and to the small, i've talked to them, i've been to top40 nights too and i've also seen the kind of people go there. most importantly, i've seen how the trance scene has changed over the years. to be a real trance fan you'd need to know what trance and not techno is, who the artists are and regularly listen to the music. i'm not trying to be an elitist, but if the people who come see armin refer to his music as techno, im sorry, even if they're having the time of their life at the party because they popped so much E, they are still not a trance fan.

Apri, you're such an elitist. You do Ishkur proud!

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Originally posted by Sykonee Apri, you're such an elitist. You do Ishkur proud!

i ishkur!

I just feel that if you want this to happen...

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making trance more popular and hopefully more accepted

...then you will have to put with people that take longer to learn more about the music. Like I said before, not everyone is that anal about the music. Some will learn more about it faster than others. Some won't even care enough to ever try to learn about it. In the end, you shouldn't have to worry so much about what other people think.

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