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Whast do you guys think is the future of trance? Which direction will it all go and what kind of sound do you think we will me rantin in here about in 10 years?
I think the future of trance is in progressive.. In the UK prog is creeping over the big clubs, and i love it! i think this has happened over here because the clubbing population is getting a bit sick of the same formula being used for nearly every uplifting tune there is (with a few exceptions) i.e. your average uplifting trance tune goes like this:
Funky beat, build up in the beat, bassline rops, crash +breakdown, big buildup bit, crash + big riff, bigriff + beat, break down, build up, big riff, breakdown beat, end.
A bit predictable... and this is where prog differs, it goes in new directions doing something a little different and thats why i think in 10 years time we will be listening to a hybrid of prog trance and techno-trance (=mauro picotto type stuff...) 
i also think prog takes a lot mor4e hard work to make because u have to think up more new ideas and work much harder on the beat (experience here...) 
There will always be those big riffs and slides and things, they are what make trance... u can still be prog with a big riff (ambassador - one of these days) Maybe if the uplifting world did something a little different sometime soon (i.e. floyd - miss you (sagittaire mix)) and more often it wont be phased out
This is a cool topic!
I agree with you there tu_face, trance will become much more progressive. Tiesto and Ferry Corsten are a good example, they're spinning more and more progressive.
I have to say I aint such a fan of progressive 
I like to hear it when I'm just chilling or so, but I don't like to hear it on parties/raves...
That's the reason I'm getting into techno and dark hard-trance and stuff... Techno RULEZ!!!
One thing that concerns me: hardhouse getting popular. far too popular. It's just so cheap and corny and cheesy etc, etc! But hey, that's just my opinion.
Later!
i think its going deeper and darker too.. but there ain't nothing wrong with hard house.. hard house can span a range from nu-nrg, down to the techno end..
and its nice sometimes to have it in a peak time set..
although its going deeper and darker, its just one of these trends, who knows what's gonna happen next year..
maybe its going to go back to uplifting..
just maybe.. hehe
Maybe, but the uplifting side of the trance industry somewhat struggled last year (Possibly the reason for HH becoming so popular?). Maybe thats because 1998 & 1999 were so fuckin good for uplifting trance it was unbeleivable, but i still get the vibe from people that they want something new and different, and in my veiw unless the way some of the artists make their tunes changes soon it isnt gonna be uplifting that gives people this.
Peace
yeah I think progressive will take over. Progressive is much broader than most genres. Trance is actually a sub-division of prog. I agree with Jukx on The HH part. Some HH stuff is crap, but the real good stuff is awesome. Mauro Picotto is getting more and more popular and the Tiestos sound is fading. The likes of Marco V are coming into the picture and that is the step to the next trend.
I went to Innercity in 1999 and in the Main Hall you had a more trance theme and this year (just a year later) there was only one real trance DJ.
I think eventually we will end up at techno after the progressive. Everything ends at techno and then there will be another new trend and it will go on and on forever unless it turns into gabber or hardcore then we are DOOOOOOOMED.
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| Originally posted by infinity but there ain't nothing wrong with hard house.. hard house can span a range from nu-nrg, down to the techno end.. |
C'mon people!!
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c'mon peepz i thought this was quite a good one... i know u all have ur opinion so get it down!!
Peace
Yeah, uplifting trance was big 1-2 years ago, nowadays it's hardhouse, nu-nrg, hard trance + some progressive trance (at least in Finland). Techno is also regaining popularity at clubs after having been the juice of UG circles for some time. Personally I love uplifting trance, but hardcore makes me stomp huge craters on the floor in XTC. I don't listen to hardhouse outside parties though since it's way too repetitive and simple. I guess it's the club/rave athmosphere which adds extra spice to the music and the entire experience.
I predict that hardhouse, trancecore and that hard banging stuff will be quite shortlived phenomena since if you think about people who are new to the scene.... what is their musical background? Well, usually some pop, rnb, classical... easy stuff so to say. Then if you take such a person to HH rave they start screaming for ear plugs after 30 seconds because the contrast is so extreme comparing to what they have heard before. In other words, trance will never disappear and I'd see uplifting trance as the first step in becoming an electronica addict simply because it's feelgood music + you can listen to it even when you are not raving etc. Hardcore is also very boring if you listen to it a lot. For me 1-2 HH parties a month is enough, but I do enjoy going to them. A bit contradictory wouldn't you say?
Like the "DJ Aliases/Projects"-thread indicated, the trance scene is controlled by a handful of elite artists who have their own style and they stick with. What we need here is some fresh touch, new ideas and not that same formula used over and over again tu_face was talking about. I think Planet Funk - Chase the Sun is a good example of mixing different styles (pop, electronica/progressive). Also the fact that most people don't recognize any of the tracks played at parties tells something about the music...
So in brief, the scene is looking for fresh touch which still has the most powerful elements like energy buildups, nice melodies and NRG that takes you to another dimension! As an electronica addict I think it's wise to listen to lots of different stuff and see if you like it. I don't really see any point listening to only Tiesto and Corsten or just HH. Explore and be amazed!
I wonder when the composers start to use brainwave indicators to find the most stimulating melodies 
Vision: after mobile phone location technology gets a bit better and standardized your own top N list gets automatically sent to the DJs' computer systems from your mobile phone memory the moment you step into the venue. Suddenly the organizers have the merged top list of 4000+ addicts. Neat, ha?
peace
Progressive house and progressive trance have already taken over... I dunno, too much of anything is no good... Epic and uplifting got to the point where it all sounded the same, nothing too original is coming out lately..
I totally agree with Mindbender (dude u always gotta write an essay, but they make total sense) never limit yourself to one genre or style, to me it's all about balance. Not too much progressive, or uplifting or even trance (I'm soooooo a tranceadddict still tho)... I think after progressive, it will be a bit lighter again... (like infinity mentioned)
I dunno I'm looking forward to the future of trance, in whatever way it evolves... if it didn't evolve, I wouldn't be listening to it right now...
latez...
Agreed
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| Originally posted by Dj Furee Progressive house and progressive trance have already taken over... I dunno, too much of anything is no good... Epic and uplifting got to the point where it all sounded the same, nothing too original is coming out lately.. never limit yourself to one genre or style, to me it's all about balance. latez... |
i'm gonna set my prediction for the year 2002 now:
the trance scene (in my opinion) will be on the verge of techno by the end of this year.. but then in 2002, i think ppl will make techno become more uplifting, and eventually.. by the end of 2002.. we'll be back at uplifting trance.
thats my serious speculation there =p..
hehe
Are we the only ones who care in here???!!!
Peace
lol i guess so..
maybe we've reached that point of 'loserness' that noone else really cares what we have to say hehe.. =p
being two of the few longstanding TA's we have here have we past it dood? when does the TA pension come swamper? lol...
Peace
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| Originally posted by infinity i'm gonna set my prediction for the year 2002 now: the trance scene (in my opinion) will be on the verge of techno by the end of this year.. but then in 2002, i think ppl will make techno become more uplifting, and eventually.. by the end of 2002.. we'll be back at uplifting trance. thats my serious speculation there =p.. hehe |
HH
I think hard house is cool, but given the choice it would be trance in clubz any day. Hard House in the UK has mainly been driven to the after-hours clubs (like insomniakz & area 51 etc) which is cool. Hard house after hours seriously kicks ass because after a good nights trance you are sometimes left needing more, and for that u need to go mental to something, and HH is the key heheh...
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| Originally posted by Jukx And we'll get the same mess as we got with Hardcore/Gabber in the begin 90's. It goes bigger, more popular, faster, more popular faster , faster and then..... **BANGGGG** ..... it implodes. Leaving a big black hole with no interest for any electronic music at all. That's my doom-scenario when Nu-NRG get's too popular... beware! Later! |
We actually have clubs here which have mixed line-ups of both easy trance DJs and hardcore HH/NRG DJs. Something for everyone and it seems to work pretty well.
also.. tu_face.. ya been to turnmills saturday nites - sunday mornings?? sometimez they got quality hard house sets.. well i think n e wayz =p
can't say i have dood, where abouts is it?
peace
london.. near farringdon?? near fabric kinda thing??
hehe.. umm who plays there... err..
tall paul.. fergie... ppl like that i guess..
u ever in london to go clubbin?
I never been to london clubbin yet, i got to mainly sheffield or nottingham, sometimes b'ham at a push
peace
Oh no, I can't stand hardhouse, especially shit like Public Domain as I've mentioned so many times before. I also can't the rubbish like BK, Lisa Lashes, Ingo and Whiteman etc, (who ruined Signum "Just Do It") with wailing siren noises and male voices shouting nonsnense about house's and shit, I find it like a form of torture! I don't even class these people as proper DJ's!
hard house is just as hard to DJ as anything else 
maybe u havent had the right kind of HH experiance, go to an after hours club where hard house is being played and i can nearly guarentee that if u on a good roll and u had a good night of trance, u will be loving it
peace
The future of trance music is in the sound of Marco V. He completes a stumpin' bass with a nice melody and some kewl sounds. He also plays songs with voices, male and female. He has a very complete style, and i think this is what trance music will be in a few years...
Greetz Leep
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