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Noob Fruity Question

ok so when i start up fruityloops and select "new" i get this "Kick, Hihat, Clap, Snare" window. ok.... if i made a piano roll with these.. how do i assign them to my "playlist patterns?"

thanks in advance.



Bidor

That window is the step sequencer, it lists all sounds/instruments that are loaded in the project. From there you have probably seen that you can sequence notes in a very basic way on the sequencer or go to the piano roll, either by right clicking the desired instrument and selecting Piano Roll or by clicking the piano roll "PR" button at the top of the screen.

Take a look at the pattern selector "PAT" next to the tempo selector and the transport buttons. If you haven't done anything you are probably editing pattern #1.

Sequence your instrument in the piano roll. Next to the transport buttons you can choose to listen to the current pattern or to the song, in this case you're still on the pattern, so have it set to "PAT".

When you have created a pattern, open up the playlist, "PL" button or F5 on the keyboard. Draw your Pattern 1 which you have been working on on to the playlist, switch to SONG next to the transport buttons, and hit play.

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Originally posted by SMC That window is the step sequencer, it lists all sounds/instruments that are loaded in the project. From there you have probably seen that you can sequence notes in a very basic way on the sequencer or go to the piano roll, either by right clicking the desired instrument and selecting Piano Roll or by clicking the piano roll "PR" button at the top of the screen. Take a look at the pattern selector "PAT" next to the tempo selector and the transport buttons. If you haven't done anything you are probably editing pattern #1. Sequence your instrument in the piano roll. Next to the transport buttons you can choose to listen to the current pattern or to the song, in this case you're still on the pattern, so have it set to "PAT". When you have created a pattern, open up the playlist, "PL" button or F5 on the keyboard. Draw your Pattern 1 which you have been working on on to the playlist, switch to SONG next to the transport buttons, and hit play.

thanks a lot for your time mate! im gonna try that out.

another question..

i created a pattern and drew it in "pattern 1" so i hit play and the the sound plays, but when its plays there is this echo effect and the sound keeps making the same sound none stop.. how do i fix this?

thanks!


Bidor

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Originally posted by Bidor another question.. i created a pattern and drew it in "pattern 1" so i hit play and the the sound plays, but when its plays there is this echo effect and the sound keeps making the same sound none stop.. how do i fix this? thanks! Bidor

Take a look at the mixer, F9, when you play the song or the pattern you will see the meter bouncing on the mixer track assigned to the intrument, if you haven't selected one it's probably on the master, have you placed any effects there?

If not

You might have drawn the patterns on the playlist so that they overlap, the second one starts before the first is finished, and the third one etc. To verify this, try drawing only one Pattern 1 on the playlist, play the song, and see if you still get the echoes.

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Originally posted by SMC Take a look at the mixer, F9, when you play the song or the pattern you will see the meter bouncing on the mixer track assigned to the intrument, if you haven't selected one it's probably on the master, have you placed any effects there?

its on master, i havent put any effects there.

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If not You might have drawn the patterns on the playlist so that they overlap, the second one starts before the first is finished, and the third one etc. To verify this, try drawing only one Pattern 1 on the playlist, play the song, and see if you still get the echoes.

i only drew 1 pattern in "pattern 1" and there is nothing overlapping.

and still the effect is there.. what do i need to change?

thanks a lot mate really appreciate your help!

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Originally posted by Bidor i only drew 1 pattern in "pattern 1" and there is nothing overlapping. and still the effect is there.. what do i need to change? thanks a lot mate really appreciate your help!

np

I could take a real quick look at the .flp if you upload it.

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Originally posted by SMC np I could take a real quick look at the .flp if you upload it.

thanks alot mate! the fl file just has some random wierd sounds i was trying out. hope you can fin the problem!

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Bidor

Ok, first of all, look at the playlist, you placed a pattern on bar 2 leaving the first bar empty. When you hit play it passes the first empty bar and then on bar 2 we have your pattern. It starts playing but then, since there is no more in the playlist after bar 2 the playback goes back to the start and keeps playing two bars endlessly. That way your pattern is retriggered over and over again.

Then if we look at the pattern itself (if it loaded correctly in my FLS, i assume it did), you have dotted out some notes on the step sequencer. When an instrument with a sustained sound (that is not a single hit, a drum, percussion, etc) is triggered with a note from the step sequencer it will just keep playing forever since there is no info about the length of the note, it's like pressing a key and never releasing it.

The step sequencer in FLS is a relic from the old days of the software, it's cool but no one actually uses it. So avoid it, except for some percussion patterns perhaps. Do everything in the piano roll.

So in few words your problem is that the notes are triggered and never end, and on top of that they are triggered multiple times.

thanks a lot mate its all very helpfull! really appreciate it!

ive got one more question... my mate gave me a midi file of one of his songs and asked me to remix his tune, but when i play the midi file.. the patterns/notes are there but they dont make sound.. how come?


thanks alot!

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Originally posted by Bidor thanks a lot mate its all very helpfull! really appreciate it! ive got one more question... my mate gave me a midi file of one of his songs and asked me to remix his tune, but when i play the midi file.. the patterns/notes are there but they dont make sound.. how come? thanks alot!

Are the midi notes actually triggering an instrument? What instrument have you placed the midi notes "on"?

Make sure the note velocities aren't set to 0, by default they shouldn't be, but you never know. Take a look at the bottom of the piano roll.

alright, the first thing that comes up when you hit new is your step sequencer, which contains kick, hat, clap, snare. that is actually pattern 1 in your play list, alls you have to do to assign something to your play list is highlight the pattern 1 open piano roll and your good to go!

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Originally posted by SMC Are the midi notes actually triggering an instrument? What instrument have you placed the midi notes "on"? Make sure the note velocities aren't set to 0, by default they shouldn't be, but you never know. Take a look at the bottom of the piano roll.

nope ive tried that and didnt work.. i still dont hear anything..

ive uploaded the midi, maybe if you could have a look and tell me what is wrong with it, that would be really nice!


thanks




Bidor


http://www.speedyshare.com/858473768.html

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Originally posted by Bidor nope ive tried that and didnt work.. i still dont hear anything.. ive uploaded the midi, maybe if you could have a look and tell me what is wrong with it, that would be really nice! thanks Bidor [[ LINK REMOVED ]]

here's a simple test...load up a 3xOSc or some other VST inst...then drag and drop the midi file onto the instrument, press the check mark...BAM FOOL SHOULD WORK NOW!

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Originally posted by ASFSE here's a simple test...load up a 3xOSc or some other VST inst...then drag and drop the midi file onto the instrument, press the check mark...BAM FOOL SHOULD WORK NOW!

im completly new with fruity... i have installed Vanguard.. but dont know where to open it in fruity..

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Originally posted by Bidor im completly new with fruity... i have installed Vanguard.. but dont know where to open it in fruity..

ok so did you try the 3xosc test?

to load vanguard...you have to first go to the options menu and locate your VST directory, once that is done you channels>add>more>refresh(fast scan) and if you installed it correctly then it should come up in red font.

make sense?

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Originally posted by Bidor im completly new with fruity... i have installed Vanguard.. but dont know where to open it in fruity..

Channels - Add one - More... - Refresh - Check the Vanguard that should have appeared in the list in red. Now you will find it in the Add one-list.

Also check the Help in fruity, there is an answer to most questions there.

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