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The Verdict on Lighting Effects

I think that lighting effects should add to the party, and not distract you due to being too overbearing. I find that the lighting effects at many parties I have been going to recently either seem unnecessary or distracting.

Here are a few specific gripes I have with lighting effects:

Lazers: In the Guvernment, although I don't really like lazers, they're fitting and they make sense. However, nothing is worse than lazers in a small club. Clubs like Hotel and This is London should not have lazers. Especially This is London because I find it really detracts from the classy atmosphere I thought the club was trying to create.

Strobelights: Unless used very sparingly (which they most often are not), they can be very distracting and often times disorienting. There have been a number of times that I've been at This is London and I've had to leave the dancefloor when I was having a lot of fun because I thought a few more flickers of the strobelight were going to cause me to go into epileptic shock, lol.

Clich� lighting systems in Toronto clubs: I can only think of one club in Toronto that has a unique and creative lighting system: Sonic. Every other club that I go to has the clich� black light, lazer and strobe combo. I usually can't help being reminded of high school dances in days of yore.

What are your opinions of lighting effects?

i thoguht republik had really cool lighting

I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY agree with you on all your points made, Graham.

Though, my preference now is to have NO lighting at all.

My ideal venue would be a place such as The Comfort Zone or 99 Sudbury (raw with a dirty, unrefined underground feel) with very, very minimal lighting (black lights where possible instead of regular lights! and no lasers at all, or strobes)

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Originally posted by Flec i thoguht republik had really cool lighting

I think Republik looks like the starship Enterprise. I don't like the way that club looks at all. Very tacky IMO.

To each their own though.

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Originally posted by The Highroller I think Republik looks like the starship Enterprise.

Well now!! I feel like I really need to check out Republik finally if it indeed draws a comparison to the Starship Enterprise!

That is something I must see and experience in a club venue before I die!

I love the Starship Enterprise.

*Paging Lightshow*

lazers are over rated. i know many think they are siiikkk, but i am more of an intelligent lighting kinda guy. the lighting at sonic is nice.

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Originally posted by NuERA but i am more of an intelligent lighting kinda guy. the lighting at sonic is nice.

The ONE (1) simple, green laser they had in use at 99 Sudburry for Adam Beyer coupled with the small small disco ball on the ceiling was the most ingenious, effective use of a laser I've beheld. It was minimal (how appropriate) and simple, and was nicely done. Added to the vibe, suited the occasion and venue, took nothing away and didnt diminished anything!

That is excellent laser work.

I'm not a fan of lazers at all.. but at a large event at the right moment they can be great.

as for everything else.. you gotta have strobes and you gotta have moving heads or at the very least some shit trackspot like intelligent light with at least a few differnt gobos.

most importantly, you need need to have a lighting guy that knows how to use it all effectively and appropriately. There is an art to lighting. It's about creating a visual environment to compliment the music.

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Originally posted by NuERA lazers are over rated. i know many think they are siiikkk, but i am more of an intelligent lighting kinda guy. the lighting at sonic is nice.

blasphemy

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Originally posted by activate I'm not a fan of lazers at all.. but at a large event at the right moment they can be great.

thats true, like at a big trance party when the lasers make their first appearance and everyone goes nuts!

I love the lighting at sonic for sure. A couple of times though, they had them on for WAY too long and it just pissed me off. I don't know about other people but when I go to a real afterhours the last thing I want to experience is full on lighting for 3 minutes.

The lights in guv can be alright, but sometimes they are overdone.

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Originally posted by oldschool420 I love the lighting at sonic for sure.

In a vid (was it from Remembrance weekend?) when a beat dropped and the lights just LIT UP the whole room like as if a sun went off or a star exploded! That was fucking cool.

amazing how everyone is an "expert" on sound and now suddenly its "experts" on Lighting
sigh what are us professionals to do

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Originally posted by techead amazing how everyone is an "expert" on sound and now suddenly its "experts" on Lighting sigh what are us professionals to do

I don't think anyone is saying they are an "expert" in lighting, we are merely just sharing our opinion about what we like and don't like.

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Originally posted by techead amazing how everyone is an "expert" on sound and now suddenly its "experts" on Lighting sigh what are us professionals to do

Relax dude. Don't take it personally. I'm not attacking you personally. You're actually good at what you do. I've seen you at work many times before.

You do have to admit though that it is really annoying when people go overboard with the lights.

I'm not an expert, nor did I pretend to be. I'm merely giving my opinion, and trying to stimulate discussion on lighting effects.

Where is Jayx1 when you need him?

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Originally posted by EvilTree Where is Jayx1 when you need him?

he got tired of the Canadian Government and moved to Europe

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Originally posted by magikb he got tired of the Canadian Government and moved to Europe

I don't blame him

I agree about the overusage of lighting in small clubs - it isn't as necessary as when you're at a massive with thousands. Then I feel it is appropriate to lazor, strobe, and use the "day" lights as much as you want in keeping with the tunes spinning.

But the lighting at This is London was ridiculous - check out the two vids I took from above the dancefloor. Fackin' manic!

Thus far, the Guv has had the best lazors I've ever seen and I agree with Graham on Sonic having the most creative light setup. The best timed strobes have to be here in Denver at Vinyl - they are used sparingly and at appropriate moments. Otherwise, the club is a nice dark lower ceilinged fest of bass and tunes.

I don't like lights at all, give me CZ darkness anyday. I can't see a damn thing with the lights flickering and dancing around me at Gallery, Footwork, etc....

I don't claim to be an expert either but as a clubgoer I think I am entitled to an opinion on the club enviroment.

I love lasers and strobe lights.. the more the better. When I'm at the guv, I'm as blown away by the lasers going everywhere as I am the music sometimes. Maybe it's cause I do dj/lighting at a club that was a very weak laser system, so I appreciate the fact that I'm actually in a presence of something more than half decent.

i think lasers are uber cheesy.

i like a darker environment when i am in a club. what that means in regards to what lights they have, i know not. but no lasers!!!

thinking back on it, i think i always like the lights at aria cos they were very minimal (and in the floor!) and it was dark, from what i remember. i could be wrong though!

Club "Exit" lights were perfect...

































there were none!lol!

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Originally posted by kotsy I love lasers and strobe lights.. the more the better. When I'm at the guv, I'm as blown away by the lasers going everywhere as I am the music sometimes. Maybe it's cause I do dj/lighting at a club that was a very weak laser system, so I appreciate the fact that I'm actually in a presence of something more than half decent.

+1

I personally love lazers, and I think it adds to the experience! I'm a relatively a new to the scene, so it might be that i'm still entranced by all the lazers and lighting effects! Maybe somewhere down the road i'll feel the same way as some of you ppl, but right now...bring on more lazers!

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