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Alright, I posted on here a while ago about upgrading from Gemsound 525's to Pio's, and the majority of everyone on here told me to go for the 200's.
Well, today I was browsing ebay and I came across SSL and so I went to Serato.com and looked at the setup, and it looks super chill.
Considering the fact that I've got around 600 tracks on my pc, that I would rather not burn to CD's, and the fact that I could easily integrate the Serato system with my current Gemsound Setup, what do yall think???
I really don't want to wait any longer to save coin for the CDJ's, and Serato is in the neiborhood of $500...
decisions decisions

I really don't see the point of getting Serato if you have cd decks. I got Serato because I have turntables and vinyl I still want to spin. So if I was you I would go with getting the Pios.

Get Serato!!!!! You won't regret it. I use all the time and I love it. I use it with both CDJs and Technics 1200's.

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Originally posted by DjWoody Get Serato!!!!! You won't regret it. I use all the time and I love it. I use it with both CDJs and Technics 1200's.

+1 I used woody's serato and it was the most natural feeling software program (in terms of just using cdjs normally) I have ever used.

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Originally posted by Xtracktor +1 I used woody's serato and it was the most natural feeling software program (in terms of just using cdjs normally) I have ever used.

have you used torq, fs or ms pinky at all?

i used the hell outa Traktor back in the day, way before anything really.
From what I hear SSL, FS & Torq are all real similar?

Serato will only let you play your music from your computer (no burning CDs, pressing vinyl, etc.), which in itself is very convenient.

It won't, among other things, magically make your decks better. If you have turntables or CDJs that don't hold pitch well, that may pose a problem (not sure if Serato or the like have pitch locking/correction/etc.).

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Originally posted by AnomalyConcept Serato will only let you play your music from your computer (no burning CDs, pressing vinyl, etc.), which in itself is very convenient. It won't, among other things, magically make your decks better. If you have turntables or CDJs that don't hold pitch well, that may pose a problem (not sure if Serato or the like have pitch locking/correction/etc.).

Serato DOES let you play from every source. If you're using vinyl, and someone comes over and hands you a CD, just pop it in your laptop and Serato will recognize it. You can then map the track to either Deck A or B and do the adjustments with the turntable or CDJ.

Also, if you're using Serato with CD's, you can switch to regular CD's by flipping the line switch in your mixer. Same goes for vinyl.

Serato DOES HAVE Pitch Lock/Master Tempo. It's included on the new version 1.7. They are also working on the PITCH AND TIME PlugIn which is unavailable to any other vinyl emulation software.

Serato also announced that they will support VIDEO and MIDI in the near future. They even showed a demo video of some guy using it with video. Now that's AWESOME!!!

In the past I have used Final Scratch, and I messed with Torq before. Honestly, Final Scratch was garbage! Their support team sucks, and you had to pay for updates. With Serato updates are always free. Look, they update their software every other month. They just released version 1.7 yesterday and they are already talking about Beta Testing 1.8. Also, Final Scratch 1.1 was very buggy and it didn't sounded too good. FS 2 was supposed to be better, but I switched to Serato. Native Instruments (the software partner for FS) even abandoned Final Scratch and started their own program TRAKTOR SCRATCH. Why? Cuz Stanton has issues.

Torq feels cheap, confusing, and the interface isn't all there. There's some cool features, but it's just not the same. Serato is a workhorse, and very reliable. I only had it crashed on me ONCE! And that was while playing at Spundae. Why did it crashed on me? It wasn't Serato... it was my laptop!!!

If you have any questions let me know.

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Originally posted by DjWoody Torq feels cheap, confusing, and the interface isn't all there. There's some cool features, but it's just not the same. Serato is a workhorse, and very reliable. I only had it crashed on me ONCE! And that was while playing at Spundae. Why did it crashed on me? It wasn't Serato... it was my laptop!!! If you have any questions let me know.

To be honest, this really sounds like SSL fanboy talk. You haven't offered any substantive reason why Torq is bad. In paraphrase, "I don't like it" is what I get from you.

I am a serato fan, but by all means I'm a fair guy. I give a fair chance to all. Torq's cheap plastic box was a big issue for me. Why? Because I carry my box all the time and i'm paranoid to it cracking, breaking, or anything else like along that line. The Serato box is made out of metal, it's rugged, and it's taken a true beating from me.

Also, the Torq software is a bit confusing. It's not as clean or straight forward as Serato's. That's also huge for me since when Im djing I dont have time to look at a confusing interface.

Don't get me wrong, there are some thing I do like about Torq. I like the fact that you can control it with any midi controller including the trigger finger. I like how you can add VSTs to it. But when I messed with it at Remix Hotel, quite honestly, I wasn't impressed at all. It's a good runner up for Serato, but IMO it's not all there. It feels like a toy.

IMO, one that will be worth considering would be Native Instrument's TRAKTOR SCRATCH...

I say if you have cheap CDJ's now, that you should upgrade those first! Like someone else said, Serato won't make your decks magically better!

You could get 1200's and Serato, that I would agree with

well, i assumed that searato wouldntd magically fix anything. I have been considering just buying some belt drive TT's and serato. CDJs are just outragiously expensive! grr

Oh geeze... if you buy belt-drive TT's, you'll have a nightmare of a time trying to mix on them.

Mixing timecode vinyl is exactly like mixing real vinyl (well, minus changing the record, or reading the grooves). If you have crappy turntables, you'll be one unhappy DJ with either.

How about some used 1200's? Lots of people seem to be dumping theirs.

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Originally posted by xiad well, i assumed that searato wouldntd magically fix anything. I have been considering just buying some belt drive TT's and serato. CDJs are just outragiously expensive! grr

OMG, i totaly meant to say Direct Drive...
Yea ive heard of the nightmares dealing with the belt drives,
and im currently experiencing the nightmare of CDJ overpricedness.

1200's are the CDJ1000's of TTs, but whats vinyl equivilant of the 800 or 200's?

I think Serato + some tt's would be the solution to my problem, and I could always use the OK CDT525 from my set for sampling or something

You should be able to get some used 1200's in basically perfect condition for no more than $300 per deck, so I don't see a real reason to go any cheaper than that.

Check craigslist for your area.

You can also look at Torq, it's significantly cheaper than SSL.

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Originally posted by xiad OMG, i totaly meant to say Direct Drive... Yea ive heard of the nightmares dealing with the belt drives, and im currently experiencing the nightmare of CDJ overpricedness. 1200's are the CDJ1000's of TTs, but whats vinyl equivilant of the 800 or 200's? I think Serato + some tt's would be the solution to my problem, and I could always use the OK CDT525 from my set for sampling or something

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Originally posted by xiad 1200's are the CDJ1000's of TTs, but whats vinyl equivilant of the 800 or 200's?

Used 1200s.

Seriously. There are Technics, and then there's everything else. Accept no substitues.

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