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Posted by Chryz707 on Jan-21-2007 16:29:

Question for CDJ DJ's

Ok I have been a Vinyl Dj for some time and want to start using CDJ's I was looking at the CDJ 200's but dont know if i should look at something higher end and invest in something better. What do you suggest. Any assistance is appreciated...


Posted by dJ-matts on Jan-21-2007 16:37:

the cdj 800s or cdj 1000s are great the only thing the 200s provide that the 800s or dont is mp3 capability. but the 1000s and 800s are so much better. and provide many more features


Posted by Pinokio on Jan-21-2007 16:39:

Re: Question for CDJ DJ's

quote:
Originally posted by Chryz707
Ok I have been a Vinyl Dj for some time and want to start using CDJ's I was looking at the CDJ 200's but dont know if i should look at something higher end and invest in something better. What do you suggest. Any assistance is appreciated...


I would suggest to use the search button.
There's plenty of information about this.

If you want to scratch get the CDJ-1000
If you don't need to scratch then get CDJ-200


Posted by Jarvmeister on Jan-21-2007 17:37:

quote:
Originally posted by dJ-matts
the cdj 800s or cdj 1000s are great the only thing the 200s provide that the 800s or dont is mp3 capability. but the 1000s and 800s are so much better. and provide many more features


200s, 800s and 1000s all play MP3s these days.

The older models didn't - but the newer ones do.

Jarv


Posted by Aquarian on Jan-21-2007 18:39:

the 800 and 1000 have extra features, but a much higher price tag. If you don't absolutely need those features, then it's not worth spending that much money for them. In that case there isn't anything more high end than the 200.


Posted by Jarvmeister on Jan-21-2007 18:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
the 800 and 1000 have extra features, but a much higher price tag. If you don't absolutely need those features, then it's not worth spending that much money for them. In that case there isn't anything more high end than the 200.


I have to disagree. Take away all the 1000s extra features and it still far out performs the 200. I use both regularly. I personally reckon the 200 is a poor performer, especially the quirky pitch resolution.

If you can afford it go for the 1000 - they aren't the professional's choice of CDJ for nothing.

Jarv


Posted by miamitranceman on Jan-22-2007 02:29:

Seeing as how you state you're a vinyl DJ, it's a no-brainer to go with either 800s or 1000s as they have a vinyl emulation mode in addition to the cdj mode. It'll be much more like what you're used to.


Posted by chris harrington on Jan-22-2007 03:44:

Re: Question for CDJ DJ's

quote:
Originally posted by Chryz707
Ok I have been a Vinyl Dj for some time and want to start using CDJ's I was looking at the CDJ 200's but dont know if i should look at something higher end and invest in something better. What do you suggest. Any assistance is appreciated...


i went from vinyl to CDJ 800 and had no problem with the cahnge over at all (i still play vinyl as well though)


Posted by warmregards on Jan-22-2007 10:55:

Confused

Yup since youre coming from vinyl it is imperative that you spend hundreds extra so youll hear a homey slur instead of a stutter while youre cueing up. Not to mention those crappy CDJ200's with their awkward pitch resolution of either .05 or .02. Also, you should not consider theCDJ200 since no international DJ's with practically limitless budgets choose this deck. Yeah man its a no brainer.


Posted by Stu Cox on Jan-22-2007 11:46:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
Seeing as how you state you're a vinyl DJ, it's a no-brainer to go with either 800s or 1000s as they have a vinyl emulation mode in addition to the cdj mode. It'll be much more like what you're used to.

I was originally a vinyl DJ but I've always pretty much exclusively used CDJ mode... apart from for scratching/tricks etc

I know there's this tendancy to try and stick to what you're used to, but I'm a firm believer that CDs CAN'T accurately mimick vinyl - in a lot of ways you don't want them to in fact. So don't try... consider them as a completely different piece of kit - like you use your iPod differently from your VCR (if you still use such a thing ) - it still won't take long to pick up because the principles of beatmatching are still exactly the same and that's what takes time when you learn how to mix, not which button does what.

That said, I've just upgraded from the CDJ100s I got years ago to add a CDJ800 alongside them and already I'm noticing more and more things that I'd rather have a CDJ1000 for.


Posted by Christian �. on Jan-22-2007 15:35:

I don't think cdj 800 mk2 has .02 as pitch resolution, CDJ 200 & 1000 has .02

When i played on a cdj 1000 I was surprised how slow it was! I have cdj 200 at my home, ejecting the cd and especially the searching is a lot more faster on a 200!

But however, You just got to love cdj 1000


Posted by Boomer187 on Jan-22-2007 15:49:

IMO it goes 1000 > 200 > 800 > 100


this includes price and functionality. I also migrated from vinyl to cd and have used all of these


Posted by Allied Nations on Jan-22-2007 15:52:

IMO it goes 1000 > 800 > 200 > 100


i don't like the jog on the 200... and prefer the features on the 800.

only think about the 200 which is cool is the .02 pitch. effects are meh and platter annoys me.


Posted by skip on Jan-22-2007 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Christian �.
I don't think cdj 800 mk2 has .05 as pitch resolution




it does and that's a fact.


Posted by Inertia on Jan-22-2007 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
I have to disagree. Take away all the 1000s extra features and it still far out performs the 200. I use both regularly. I personally reckon the 200 is a poor performer, especially the quirky pitch resolution.

If you can afford it go for the 1000 - they aren't the professional's choice of CDJ for nothing.

Jarv


erm... WHAT?! a poor performer? i'll take that it is in fact a bit hard to only shift the pitch by 0.02 at a time, due to the slider being short, but that's my only beef with it, which means nothing as soon as you get some practice.

what exactly is poor about them?


Posted by Christian �. on Jan-22-2007 18:14:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
it does and that's a fact.

haha My bad, would be .02 not .05


Posted by Jarvmeister on Jan-22-2007 19:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
erm... WHAT?! a poor performer? i'll take that it is in fact a bit hard to only shift the pitch by 0.02 at a time, due to the slider being short, but that's my only beef with it, which means nothing as soon as you get some practice.

what exactly is poor about them?


Jog wheel sucks - as Allied Nations already said, and trying to get a precise pitch change shouldn't have to be an effort - but as it is you have to fart arse around and IMO you shouldn't have to.

Those two things - whioch are such major parts of the 200, make this unit a poor performer IMO.

0.02 is great, but when you have to try to move the pitch control a flee's whisker and it jumps two positions - thats a big issue as far as I'm concerned. When I'm using my mates - it takes the enjoyment out of mixing.

Jarv


Posted by Boomer187 on Jan-22-2007 20:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
Jog wheel sucks - as Allied Nations already said, and trying to get a precise pitch change shouldn't have to be an effort - but as it is you have to fart arse around and IMO you shouldn't have to.

Those two things - whioch are such major parts of the 200, make this unit a poor performer IMO.

0.02 is great, but when you have to try to move the pitch control a flee's whisker and it jumps two positions - thats a big issue as far as I'm concerned. When I'm using my mates - it takes the enjoyment out of mixing.

Jarv




I felt the same way the first two weeks I had mine. After that it has never been an issue.


Posted by warmregards on Jan-22-2007 22:00:

You heard it right here Chryz707, the jogwheel on the CDJ200 makes it off limits. So basically do not ever, ever consider the CDJ200 ever in your life again. Even if it has all the features you need you should not buy it because the jogwheel is inferior and mixing will become a chore for you. You heard it straight from a 'supreme tranceaddict'. The moral of this story is, when in doubt, spend more money, because you will feel much cooler caressing the jog wheel of a CDJ1000, trust.


Posted by Stu Cox on Jan-22-2007 22:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
Jog wheel sucks -

Compare it with the jog wheel on the CDJ100 (which it replaces) and it's a fucking godsend I can tell you!! Sooo much smoother to use

Remember that the 200 IS aimed at a lower budget market and the platters used on the CDJ800/1000 cost absolutely LOADS to make - accurate, robust sensors are not cheap at all. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the final selling price of a CDJ800/1000 comes from the platter alone (obviously including all of the markups, research contributions etc)

I don't think you'd find the CDJ200 so appealing if it was nearer �550 than �350!


Posted by Jarvmeister on Jan-22-2007 23:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
I don't think you'd find the CDJ200 so appealing if it was nearer �550 than �350!


I wouldn't find it appealing even if it was �100!!

.....well - maybe just a tuny bit.....!


Posted by on Jan-23-2007 01:22:

^^ You sir are a CDJ1000 Elitist.. And that bothers me more than anything about the CDJ200's.

I can say that I have never had a problem using the jog dial on the 200's. Nor have I had any issue's when DJing with the pitch resolution issues you spoke of earlier..

Quit trash talking a product that many DJ's have no problems using.


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Jan-23-2007 01:48:

i agree, its a matter of getting used to the short pitch slider and then after that its never an "effort" as some have made comments. the effects aren't top notch quality thats for sure but i find the 200 to be a very solid machine that does its job perfect. perhaps if you have big hands the pitch slider becomes an issue? the .02 resolution is a great feature! very accurate!


Posted by Inertia on Jan-23-2007 02:38:

i have pretty big hands i'd say, approx 7.3 inches from palm to tip of middle finger, and my thumb is 0.8 inches wide. and i mix perfectly on the 200.

i just happened to have a ruler on my desk


Posted by miamitranceman on Jan-23-2007 04:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia


i just happened to have a ruler on my desk



Haha, I was like


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