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Posted by mzvirbulis on Jan-24-2007 10:00:

Nearfield Monitors?

Hey guys!

Can any of you point me in the right direction to stores in melbourne where i could go and listen to various monitor brands, as i dont want to go and waste a whole lot of money on them without listening to them, but get the best that suit me.

i read alot but it just seems a bit much like they're all being really picky in reviews and it really does my head in!

cheers, matt


Posted by vman83 on Jan-24-2007 11:21:

ey how is yeh

Goto Store DJ on Victoria St in Richmond... Store Dj Website

they stock Behringer, Samson, KRK and a few others.

2 doors down from Store DJ is a music store, they also have Samsons which they can demo for u... they have em hooked up to a pc

Also you can try DMC records on Commercial rd in prahran. DMC Records Website

Billy Hydes music stores also stock Behringer from memory

Um, i myself have Behringer Truth B2031A 8" near fields and a massive as hell Behringer Truth B2092A Sub. They are very neautral, and well price. Rather heavy tho, and the sub is fkn gynormous !

If u get the samsons go for the 6A Resolve, it pumps nicer than the 8A imo.

KRK is nice but slightly more costly.

My setup



Note: the sub is under the desk.. yes it takes up the whole space

it doesnt rattle anything either or cause any feedback via carts.

The samson brand monitors are your second option in regards to a monitor that is priced in the same range as the Behringer Truths. If you want to hear them, goto the music store (is it guitar world? its not the drum store) next to store dj, they can show u the 6A and 8A resolves. Suprisingly the 6A is clearer and sounds louder, even the guy in the store pointed it out.

If you want something a lil better than the Behringer/Samsons, try the KRK's out they are lovely, a mate of mine has the 6" rokit ones... very nice, very clear. Krks will cost you more tho. Stanton make a 6" called the ATM6 which is the exact same thing cept different coloring to the KRK 6". Costs like $550 from memory.

If you have lots more to spend then most, get Mackie's... Most of us here would have to sell our limbs on ebay to get a pair of these however

Hope it helps keep me updated on what you choose

vincent


Posted by mzvirbulis on Jan-24-2007 11:39:

yeah no worries im sure to make a decision soon, i have already locked in a motu ultrlite for an audio interace!

lol, well mackies i could get but im a bit unsure yet, cant justify.

nice setup btw ill post mine soon (good equipment.... shit speakers)

thanx for the reply it's been a help!

matt


Posted by echosystm on Jan-24-2007 11:49:

KRKs are poo, unless you get the V series (RP = bad). When you listen to them, A/B them with mackies/genelcs any other good monitor and you'll hear how screwed the midrange is. I'd take rubicons over them any day, only downside of rubicons is the ribbon tweeter - has a really narrow space, sound terrible off axis.

Best monitor i've head for a decent price ($800) is the Event TR6s, but I'm waiting to hear a bluesky media desk before i buy them
We get a pretty good deal on Events, in america they're alot more expensive (in comparison to KRK, mackie etc.).


Posted by mzvirbulis on Jan-24-2007 11:50:

also would you suggest getting a sub to go with? as it's for mainly producing!


Posted by vman83 on Jan-24-2007 13:02:

mmm i would say yes, but depends on preference and room size also

im not 100% if there is a correct answer to this in regards to producing... but i certainly enjoy having the extra bass





if i wasnt moving house soon i would probably try and invest in some cdj1000mk3s to add to my setup, but il have to c how that goes


Posted by Lister Cooray on Jan-24-2007 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
KRKs are poo, unless you get the V series (RP = bad). When you listen to them, A/B them with mackies/genelcs any other good monitor and you'll hear how screwed the midrange is. I'd take rubicons over them any day, only downside of rubicons is the ribbon tweeter - has a really narrow space, sound terrible off axis.

Best monitor i've head for a decent price ($800) is the Event TR6s, but I'm waiting to hear a bluesky media desk before i buy them
We get a pretty good deal on Events, in america they're alot more expensive (in comparison to KRK, mackie etc.).


totally agree, if you get KRK's they have to be the V series.

are the monitors for production or djing? if its for production, then your room layout and knowing your monitors is actually more important than the monitors themselves.


Posted by steve_may on Jan-24-2007 21:56:

im gonna throw a spanner in the works.

i have the krk rp8's and the krk rp10s sub, this combination is awesome. if u can mix your tracks down and make them sound good on these, they sound AWESOME on any other system. they are a great production referencing monitor.
maybe the midrange sounds poo on your setup lister/echosystem, perhaps because of poor room design/monitoring environment? i have never had a problem with them, they make u work hard to get a mix sounding good.

if they are not for production, but for DJ, id be looking at something else thats a little more 'fun' sounding.

i know of a SHITLOAD of people using the krk's. they are mad, nuff said

s


Posted by Lister Cooray on Jan-24-2007 22:09:

quote:
Originally posted by steve_may
im gonna throw a spanner in the works.

i have the krk rp8's and the krk rp10s sub, this combination is awesome. if u can mix your tracks down and make them sound good on these, they sound AWESOME on any other system. they are a great production referencing monitor.
maybe the midrange sounds poo on your setup lister/echosystem, perhaps because of poor room design/monitoring environment? i have never had a problem with them, they make u work hard to get a mix sounding good.

if they are not for production, but for DJ, id be looking at something else thats a little more 'fun' sounding.

i know of a SHITLOAD of people using the krk's. they are mad, nuff said

s


not saying they are crap. just think the v series is better but knowing your monitors is the most important thing IMO.


Posted by christos on Jan-24-2007 22:49:

if you have cash grab a set of Mackie HR824...they're pretty wild!


Posted by deceptikon on Jan-25-2007 02:13:

8" drivers will flood a smaller room. I have a set of KRK V6 Series 2's and find them perfect, and I'd say my room is roughly the size of a garage. Depends if you want to shell out on sound treatment etc also...


Posted by christos on Jan-25-2007 02:55:

dude you can also get the 624's I know from personal experience that these are pretty good...but pricey


Posted by vman83 on Jan-25-2007 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by steve_may

i know of a SHITLOAD of people using the krk's. they are mad, nuff said

s


+ 1


Posted by deceptikon on Jan-25-2007 06:54:

I like my front ported V6's seeing as they're up against a wall


Posted by mzvirbulis on Jan-25-2007 08:15:

Hey thanks for the great relpies,

so far i think the krk rp8's are sounding good with a sub. As many say it's knowing and positioning your monitors correctly.

also i think it's important having a sub to have control and knowing your low end is gonna not sound like tick..tick....boom...boom!


Posted by steve_may on Jan-25-2007 08:16:

the v6's are wa better....... if u r will to spend that much more :P
keep in mind the V6, with the 6" driver costs the same for 1, as it does for a PAIR of rp8's........


Posted by deceptikon on Jan-25-2007 08:24:

Make sure you get decent stands/isolation pads for them


Posted by mzvirbulis on Jan-25-2007 08:24:

since i have no clue what they would sound like comparing them,
what would you do?

pair krk rp8's + rokit sub

or

pair of V6's

?

then save for a sub later


Posted by deceptikon on Jan-25-2007 08:28:

The V6's make enough bass for my needs. Spend as much as you can on monitors basically, forget any other gear you want for now cause in production shit monitors will fuck EVERYTHING else up.


Posted by echosystm on Jan-26-2007 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by mzvirbulis
so far i think the krk rp8's are sounding good with a sub. As many say it's knowing and positioning your monitors correctly.

also i think it's important having a sub to have control and knowing your low end is gonna not sound like tick..tick....boom...boom!


dude NO

That is stupid.

If your room is untreated, don't get a sub. If your room is any less than 3x4 AND untreated, dont get 8" drivers. You will regret it. I suggest you read into acoustics and speaker design a bit before you waste your money. I'm willing to bet, for you, 8" with a sub is suicide.

Usually when people add a sub to their system they do more harm than good. There are a lot of reasons why this is so, I suggest researching rather than just listening to someone else who bought them - their input is biased

quote:
Originally posted by steve_may
im gonna throw a spanner in the works.

i have the krk rp8's and the krk rp10s sub, this combination is awesome. if u can mix your tracks down and make them sound good on these, they sound AWESOME on any other system. they are a great production referencing monitor.
maybe the midrange sounds poo on your setup lister/echosystem, perhaps because of poor room design/monitoring environment? i have never had a problem with them, they make u work hard to get a mix sounding good.

if they are not for production, but for DJ, id be looking at something else thats a little more 'fun' sounding.

i know of a SHITLOAD of people using the krk's. they are mad, nuff said


I'm gonna throw a spanner in your works
Give me your room dimensions and i'll work out where your bass is being over boosted +20db

I heard the speakers in a treated listening room at the music store. It doesn't take a leet mastering engineer to hear that the RP series aren't that great quality. To be fair, RPs arent THAT bad, but you could do a hell of a lot better for the price.

ALSO
i know of a SHITLOAD of people using behringer truths. they are not mad, nuff said
Just because they're popular doesn't mean theyre good.


Posted by echosystm on Jan-26-2007 01:01:

quote:
Originally posted by mzvirbulis
since i have no clue what they would sound like comparing them,
what would you do?

pair krk rp8's + rokit sub

or

pair of V6's

?

then save for a sub later


Get this sub business out of your head :P
Go and see how many pro producers use a sub, do it. You'll find none.

For that price the choice would come down to this for me:

Adam A7
Mackie HR624
KRK V6

I'd be leaning towards the Adams, I quite like those. Regardless, get some CDs and go audition them yourself.


Posted by vman83 on Jan-26-2007 01:39:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm


ALSO
i know of a SHITLOAD of people using behringer truths. they are not mad, nuff said
Just because they're popular doesn't mean theyre good.


not saying they are super great or anything, but they are not shit if thats what your saying... theres actually a few well known and respected trance producers out there who use them... i cant remember of top of my head by i thin Sean Tyas uses them


Posted by echosystm on Jan-26-2007 02:21:

Theres actually a few well known producers using berhinger truths
midor, octagen, jonas steur
again, doesn't make them good.

BT uses m-audio bx5as.
again, again, doesnt make them good.



I guess i shouldn't really be arguing. If you think RPs are good, then you should get them, I just think they're terrible value when you can get something made by Adam for just a bit more.


Posted by Fledz on Jan-26-2007 04:36:

A great 8" Monitor doesn't really need a sub. They will cover that range quite well.


Posted by vman83 on Jan-28-2007 03:51:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Theres actually a few well known producers using berhinger truths
midor, octagen, jonas steur
again, doesn't make them good.




ey jonas steur fkn pwns noobs n shit



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