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Ahmadinejad is losing his country
You know you're losing your touch as the president of Iran when people even more conservative than you are thinking you should tone it down a bit....
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Iran's beleaguered president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is facing a powerful challenge from his fiercest political rival for control of the country's nuclear and economic policies. Hashemi Rafsanjani, a pragmatic conservative defeated by Mr Ahmadinejad in the 2005 presidential election, believes Iran may have to yield to western demands to suspend uranium enrichment to save the country's Islamic system from collapse. He is trying to persuade the country's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the final say in state matters, that further negotiations are essential to avoid a potentially disastrous conflict with the US or Israel. Mr Rafsanjani demonstrated his growing influence over the nuclear issue in a meeting yesterday with Britain's ambassador to Tehran, Geoffrey Adams. He told Mr Adams that Iran was willing to submit to "any verifying measures by the responsible authorities" to prove the peaceful nature of its nuclear programme, which many in the west suspect is aimed at making atomic bombs. Diplomatic sources said Mr Rafsanjani appeared to be offering full verification only as part of a negotiated future deal, rather than immediate access. Iran said this week it had denied access to 38 inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency, the UN's nuclear watchdog. Mr Rafsanjani's conciliatory stance contrasts with Mr Ahmadinejad's defiant opposition to suspending uranium enrichment. Many have blamed the president's rhetoric for a recent UN security resolution imposing sanctions on Iran for its nuclear activities. Mr Ahmadinejad faced down his critics this week by vowing to continue his policies and declaring that 10 more UN resolutions would not deny Iran its nuclear rights. He told state television that "wise voices" in America would prevent the Bush administration from launching a military strike against Iran. Mr Rafsanjani, a former president and pillar of Iran's political establishment, disagrees and is understood to have formed a committee overseeing the nuclear negotiations. The committee will assess whether the country's international standing has been damaged by Mr Ahmadinejad's radical statements. "Before the sanctions, Rafsanjani hoped Iran could obtain its enrichment objectives through mutual understanding with the west. But now he thinks we have reached a dangerous point and that a step should be taken backwards in the hope that two forward can be taken later," said Mohammad Atrianfar, a respected political commentator and associate of Mr Rafsanjani. "He doesn't see negotiation as a sign of weakness. He wants to limit the impact of the sanctions and get Mr Khamenei and the government to accept that if Iran faces mounting sanctions or a military attack or any crisis which damages the economic life of the people, then there is a possibility of the whole system collapsing." The Guardian reported last week that Mr Ahmadinejad's authority was under pressure from critical MPs and an increasingly concerned Mr Khamenei. The re-emergence of Mr Rafsanjani contradicts widely held assumptions that his presidential defeat had diminished his influence. His increasing prominence comes after he won the most votes in elections to the experts' assembly, an important clerical body. Mr Rafsanjani this week criticised Mr Ahmadinejad's government for failing to privatise state enterprises, a policy agreed under Iran's constitution and supported by Mr Khamenei. He said Iran's economy would be overtaken by poorer neighbouring countries if prized national assets remained under state control. Mr Ahmadinejad, who has promised to redistribute wealth and alleviate poverty, favours a bigger government role in the economy. Mr Rafsanjani's comments added to widespread anger over Mr Ahmadinejad's economic policies, which have been widely denounced for stoking inflation and failing to halt unemployment. Supposedly like-minded MPs in the fundamentalist-dominated parliament have launched a petition summoning the president to answer questions. It has gathered 63 signatures and needs nine more to be effective. Meanwhile, proceedings are underway to impeach four of his ministers accused of incompetence. Insiders say there is enough anger at Mr Ahmadinejad for a majority of MPs to want to impeach him and remove him from office. |
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did you write it by yourself? 'cause it looks like just another piece of junk from a city tabloid.
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| Originally posted by star-traveller No source, No link nothing. did you write it by yourself? 'cause it looks like just another piece of junk from a city tabloid. |
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| Originally posted by star-traveller No source, No link nothing. did you write it by yourself? 'cause it looks like just another piece of junk from a city tabloid. |
This is an excellent development. Admadinijad may be the Iranian version of Mr. Bush. Perhaps the same percentage of people in Iran don't like their president as some here don't like Bush.
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| Originally posted by Krypton This is an excellent development. Admadinijad may be the Iranian version of Mr. Bush. Perhaps the same percentage of people in Iran don't like their president as some here don't like Bush. |
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| Originally posted by Krypton This is an excellent development. Admadinijad may be the Iranian version of Mr. Bush. Perhaps the same percentage of people in Iran don't like their president as some here don't like Bush. |
Admadinijad is just a genuine asshole. Hes not a constructive politician at all. Its nice to see theyre not buying bullshit at full price in Iran.
As a side note, Ahmadinejad comes off as an ordinary timid looking guy. Hardly looks like a powerful leader of a defiant country.
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| Originally posted by Omega_M As a side note, Ahmadinejad comes off as an ordinary timid looking guy. Hardly looks like a powerful leader of a defiant country. |
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| Originally posted by Omega_M As a side note, Ahmadinejad comes off as an ordinary timid looking guy. Hardly looks like a powerful leader of a defiant country. |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer Ahmadinejad HAS NO POWER in Iran,is that so hard to understand? remember Khatami?the president before Ahmadinejad?he was a conservative and people liked him alot,he promised lots of changes,but since he had no power just like any other president in Iran he couldnt achieve any of them. The real power in Iran comes from Ayatollah Khamanai the supreme leader,he is the one the controls everything in Iran not Ahmadiejad ffs. |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer Ahmadinejad HAS NO POWER in Iran,is that so hard to understand? remember Khatami?the president before Ahmadinejad?he was a conservative and people liked him alot,he promised lots of changes,but since he had no power just like any other president in Iran he couldnt achieve any of them. The real power in Iran comes from Ayatollah Khamanai the supreme leader,he is the one the controls everything in Iran not Ahmadiejad ffs. |
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| Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Really now - what the hell? Regardless, I read something similar to this a few days back. I think if anything this is a very telling sign. If anything we should allow this country to unfold on its own, rather than consider invasion, total destruction, total destabilization, chaos, death and civil strife, and then rebuilding via our country's own corporate construction workers ONLY while the country's unemployment rate and utilities infrastructure gets shot to hell, considering any "nukular" capability is at least 8-10 years away by our intelligence reports. But then again, our King knows best for us little American children, and we should never question his divine wisdom or military strategery. It's not "my war", and I need to stop pretending that it is.......... |
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| Originally posted by MisterOpus1 B It's not "my war", and I need to stop pretending that it is.......... |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer Ahmadinejad HAS NO POWER in Iran,is that so hard to understand? remember Khatami?the president before Ahmadinejad?he was a conservative and people liked him alot,he promised lots of changes,but since he had no power just like any other president in Iran he couldnt achieve any of them. The real power in Iran comes from Ayatollah Khamanai the supreme leader,he is the one the controls everything in Iran not Ahmadiejad ffs. |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r That may be true but it's not Khamanai shooting his mouth off in global forums either... |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer you dont get it do you? he can say all he wants but he doesnt have ANY POWER whatsoever to do it,it is all a political show and you are falling for it. |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Oh I, 'get it' alright. He's a mouth piece. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out lol... He's also the leader of a country which you don't see to 'get' either... |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer It is like talking to a brick wall when it comes to you. |
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| Originally posted by Q5echo you're damn right. don't ever forget it. the sooner you come to terms with the fact that you really don't care about whats better for the Greater Middle East and what that would mean for the rest of the world, only to bring down the people involved, then the sooner you can turn your energies into something a little more constructive...you and your boy Fiengold. this is not your war, why do you even have an opinion on Iran? |
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| Originally posted by MisterOpus1 - |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r You forget one? |
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| Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Actually many, but I'm hoping that these treasonous libruls here get the point that they should never question Presidential authority and rule, and that they should cease from commenting on what they have no direct experience with from here on out. I'm so tired of these American-hating traitors. Don't they realize that they're hurting our troops? Now even a growing number of damned Republicans, including my own Senator Brownback is hurting our troops by not supporting our Commander's surge plan. I can't believe all the treason infiltrating in our society anymore. I thought I could count on Brownback of all people, but evidently he's watched too much of that librul CNN station, or read too many darned librul newsrags. I just don't know what to do anymore, other than wrap myself up with the flag at night and circle-jerk with my fellow Bush supporters to the image of our Commander in Chief. Nothing else seems to be working. |
Since when has it been naughty to be career motivated in a job?
Because career will be influenced by popular opinion or their own opinions are influencing people, that tends to fall under the category of both occupations of journalism and politics regardless of how hard theyre banging the door to the left or right.
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